Speculations: How will fox news react to Mass Effect 3?

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HigherTomorrow

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Bluntman1138 said:
Well, considering it is a GAME, and NO ONE IS HUMAN OR NON HUMAN, just pixels. This whole debate is a moot point.
I care not for the debate on whether non-humans that resemble animals but are also sentient crap, but this argument pisses me off the no end. This is not allowed in debates. You cannot say this. This is a universal argument surrender which makes you look like an asshole who can't back up his own opinions.

"Women in video games are portrayed as sex objects." Oh, don't worry, they're only pixels.
"Random violence against civilians is too often rewarded in video games!" Oh, don't worry, they're only pixels.

No. They are pixels that are meant to resemble living things. If you watched a scene from a movie where a character is brutally raped, tortured, and then murdered in front of a first-grade class of students, would you say, "Ah, that was completely fine to show in both the context of the actual plot, and in the context of my own reality, as it is only acting."
 

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They'll react to it the way they react to everything. If it does not glorify the military and/or adhere to their reactionary hyperconservative views, then it is EVIL and will CORRUPT OUR CHILDREN while BURNING THE GLORIOUS, GOD-APPROVED AMERICAN FLAG.

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Do you think sex with large women is gross? Or sex on the beach? Or sex with whip cream?
Well, that depends. Did the whipped cream consent?
 

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I wonder how they will react to my video of Saints Row The Third when I make Bill O'Riley in a thong and start killing people with a large dildo!
 

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I doubt they'll really care. Fox News rarely talks about video games. Sure there was Bulletstorm and a few others, but for the most part they kind of ignore the subject. Besides, didn't they already cover the first Mass Effect?
 

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All I want to know is, where is all the sodomy they said was in Mass Effect 1? It being a sodomy-simulator and all, I apparently missed a lot of the game.
 

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I hope they have full frontal nudity in mass effect 3. That way I feel like i'm getting my money's worth when fox is just going say it's there anyway.
 

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I think ME3 will fly under the radar. I don't think SR3 will be so luck though, seeing as it has a dildo bat. Personally, this is going to be my melee weapon of choice, but FOX News probably won't see the stunningly glorious, immature humor in it all.

chiefohara said:
I know what you are saying, but chances are they won't allow relationships with characters like that anyway in case its interpreted as beastiality. The Planet of the Apes movie with Mark Walberg had the same dilemma with one of the female apes. They wanted a hint of a romantic subplot but the potential beastiality aspect of it, knocked the idea on the head.
No, it's not bestiality since bestiality is defined as the sexual relationbetween a human and a lower animal. Argonians and Khajitis are PEOPLE... they are NOT lesser animals. Even further, how this this a question of ethics? Argonians and Khajitis are as intelligent as humans, and fully sentient. This means they CAN CONSENT. If you think the concept is funny, then fine, but it isn't philosophically correct to say it is somehow "not ethical" nor call it bestiality.

Why is the concept of a "dictionary" so foreign to people?
Relax, I actually agree with you, but its open to misinterpretation, and Fox news and other such outlets are going to exploit that misinterpretation to make a headline for the sake of making a headline.
 

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CM156 said:
Fawcks said:
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I have a feeling that Mass Effect 3 is going to go under their radar. I mean, they have Skyrim to pick on about being able to be gay and committing bestiality. I don't know. Whatever they say, I won't watch it anyway.
is it just me that finds it funny that the game is called "skyrim" and has flying animals and allows the player to commit beastiality
That's not bestiality (beastiality isn't a word), because Kahjit and Argonians are not beasts.
Allow me to qoute wikipedia on Zoophilia
Zoophilia, from the Greek æῷïí (zṓion, "animal") and öéëßá (philia, "friendship" or "love"), also known as zoosexuality, is the practice of sex between humans and non-human animals (bestiality), or a preference or fixation on such practice
So yeah. I think it would qualify because Kahjit and Argonians are non-human animals.

OT: I don't think they'll bother. I mean, did they say anything about Dragon Age and Dragon Age 2?
The sin against having sex with BEASTS (Note the word beasts) is very specific. As long as the animals are unable to intelligently speak the human language, they are beasts. Considering that the Kahjit and Argonians can speak the human language, they are not beasts. Case closed.

Also, to my knowledge, only Bill O'Reilly was against Mass Effect for it's sex scene and his an Optionater. He's on the network to express his OPTION and Fox News does not hold his words to be the station's official beliefs.
 

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For me, its about human tertiary sexual characteristics. Humans are ok, Elves are ok because they are basically just humans with slightly different builds. Orcs are a little out there, but basically fit the same bill as Elves. But Khajit and Argonians...they share nothing in common with humans other than being bipedal and vaguely humanoid in appearance. Hell, are Argonians even mammals?

I dunno, "right" and "wrong" with sex is a very tenuous topic and at the end of the day really comes down to the two people involved. That said, being in a relationship with one of those two races would be like being in one with a Turian, Quarian, or Krogan from Mass Effect. You may be in love with them, but you are genetically incompatible at the most basic level. You're likely to end up killing one another if you have intercourse. Thats basically nature's way of saying "This isn't gonna work out".
 

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HigherTomorrow said:
Bluntman1138 said:
Well, considering it is a GAME, and NO ONE IS HUMAN OR NON HUMAN, just pixels. This whole debate is a moot point.
I care not for the debate on whether non-humans that resemble animals but are also sentient crap, but this argument pisses me off the no end. This is not allowed in debates. You cannot say this. This is a universal argument surrender which makes you look like an asshole who can't back up his own opinions.

"Women in video games are portrayed as sex objects." Oh, don't worry, they're only pixels.
"Random violence against civilians is too often rewarded in video games!" Oh, don't worry, they're only pixels.

No. They are pixels that are meant to resemble living things. If you watched a scene from a movie where a character is brutally raped, tortured, and then murdered in front of a first-grade class of students, would you say, "Ah, that was completely fine to show in both the context of the actual plot, and in the context of my own reality, as it is only acting."
First off, the games I play dont really portray women as Sex objects. The Female Shepard character is far from it. Perhaps in some contexts sure, but i dont see it that way. Perhaps if you didnt play Leisure Suit Larry games, then you might see women in a different light in video games. But again, it is all pixels, Not real.

And is Liara T'Soni real? IS that what you are saying. Because most games i play isnt based on any real life people. And only a few games are based on real life events. But apparently by your logic, everything resembles something real.I have never seen an Elf in a chain mail bikini in real life. I have never seen an Asari in real life.

And then i have to wonder what kind of person would show a class of first graders a movie with a brutal rape and torture scene. Because you are putting words in my mouth, by stating i think games and movies classify as the same thing. I DO NOT! You might, but i dont. Because that IS NOT pixels. That is real people portraying characters, on film. It is easy to identify with some movies. Of course, people like to show children Passion of the Christ, which i find VERY offensive, not just because of the religion in the movie either. Of course then you reach the realms of cartoons, which IS just pixels. You dont see millions of Japanese kids going on raping sprees because they saw some tentacle rape anime porn. (This is why we have age limits on various shit in this country, something i support)

If you dont see the difference, then your parents FAILED! Plain and Simple. And if your children dont see the difference, then YOU FAILED THEM!

And i like how you throw the whole "video game violence" shit in there too. That in itself is a total cop-out. Which brings us to my previous statement concerning the failing of parents. Same goes with movies when it comes to violence, if you dont know the difference, then someone failed you in your life.

Lets say we make an issue of all sex and violence from all games, movies, and TV. Then where would we be? NO Star Wars, no Star Trek, no Lord of the Rings, etc. etc. We would have us just boring shit, that wouldn't educate our minds or stimulate our senses.

And quite frankly, this whole thing is NOT an issue of beastiality. People can have their definitions from Websters dictionary all they want. The MAIN point, if you want to really get technical is this. THEY ARE REPRESENTED AS SENTIENT BEINGS. This is called inter-species relationships at this point. Are you saying that the character Spock is a product of beastiality. Or perhaps Belana Torres, who is half Klingon half Human. No, this is called INTER-SPECIES relationships.

Of course, it takes someone with half a brain to realize the difference between the two. Animals are NOT sentient beings. Argonians, and Kajait are sentient beings, NOT ANIMALS. They are highly evolved, intelligent beings. With communication and critical thinking skills.

But by most peoples definition, Worf and Troi making out is beastiality. I call it an inter-species relationship. But of course, my parents did not fail me.
 

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Pretty much. FOX news will have much more to think about then ME3. They have the presidential election coming up and they'll be balls deep slinging mud every which way.
 

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I imagine they'll pick and choose their battles with video games as most Fox viewers still think of Tetris as a communist threat and a new release. Also, FOX's audience, relevance and influence is shrinking, and TV in general is losing market share to videogames, and they're worried. They'll keep on demonising, but they'll probably go for Skyrim or SR3.

Also, in ME3 you'll spend the majority of the game killing aliens/foreigners, isn't that enough to have O'Reilly tumescent with excitement, not mad at the game? Never got why they got mad with CoD, surely a game where you're mainly shooting foreigners must be as tho they wrote the game for FOX. 'Woo! Ah'm gonna go shoot me some ay-rabs!'

(Yes, I do consider the entity of FOX news to be like a less evolved Larry the Cable Guy)

I know and understand there's news shows and opinion shows on FOX, but if I showed up to parties with a guy in a KKK outfit and a flaming torch, I wouldn't blame black friends for not calling me so much, despite knowing I'm not racist.

I find their separation between news and opinion about as effective as America's separation of church n state.
 

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Bluntman1138 said:
Alright, I'm not even going to touch the second half of your post since I made it clear in my own that I did not give a shit whether or not it was beastiality or anything. I don't like Elder Scrolls, and I'm not interested in Skyrimjob. I don't care if it has beastiality or just a relationship between humans and cat-people.

First off, I never personally said anything about you or the games you play. I don't care. Play what makes you happy. I merely said that, "It's just pixels," is a bullshit, cop-out answer for any argument.

Do half of the characters in Lord of the Rings not matter because Hobbits and Elves don't exist? You can't connect with those characters because elves aren't real?

I'm 100% for parents not being retarded and teaching their kids the difference between fantasy and reality, but good job on trying to tell me how my parents failed me as a child. Personal insults definitely don't make your argument look invalid.

Like I said, I'm not going to touch the second half of your post since I don't care about the issue. Personally, I agree with you, if the khajit or whatever they're called are bipedal, have human-compatible sexy-things, and are smart enough not to be taken into an abusive relationship by an evil, dastardly human, then I'm all for it.
 

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My guess will be: THEY PREACH TO THE DEVIL WHILE THEY MAKE OUR CHILDREN GAY BEASTIALITISTS!
If they let you build windmills and solar panels in ME3 shit will surely hit the fan.
 

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And I'd say it's fine as well. Legally, that is. Again, it comes down to a matter of ethics for me. And I'm a prude.

It's also a question of weither or not we are to apply in-game world logic to it, or real world logic. If the former: Fine. If the latter (Which I was doing) not so much.

I find this weird in the same way I find the furry fetish itself to be weird.

EDIT: I'm a bit of a prude. I'll never try to clame otherwise, dear reader.
Ah, I see. Sorry for getting so worked up over something so silly.

Just sayin', if Argonians were walking around, I'd be all on it. ;]

And yeah, we furries are pretty damn wierd. So you're excused.
 

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ALl this talk about bestiality in SKyrim, and no-one has mentoned Ahnassi yet. Basically, in Morrowind, if you were a male of any race, you could have a relationship with a Khajiit, and get some pretty sweet rewards as well.