HigherTomorrow said:
Bluntman1138 said:
Well, considering it is a GAME, and NO ONE IS HUMAN OR NON HUMAN, just pixels. This whole debate is a moot point.
I care not for the debate on whether non-humans that resemble animals but are also sentient crap, but this argument pisses me off the no end. This is not allowed in debates. You cannot say this. This is a universal argument surrender which makes you look like an asshole who can't back up his own opinions.
"Women in video games are portrayed as sex objects." Oh, don't worry, they're only pixels.
"Random violence against civilians is too often rewarded in video games!" Oh, don't worry, they're only pixels.
No. They are pixels that are meant to resemble living things. If you watched a scene from a movie where a character is brutally raped, tortured, and then murdered in front of a first-grade class of students, would you say, "Ah, that was completely fine to show in both the context of the actual plot, and in the context of my own reality, as it is only acting."
First off, the games I play dont really portray women as Sex objects. The Female Shepard character is far from it. Perhaps in some contexts sure, but i dont see it that way. Perhaps if you didnt play Leisure Suit Larry games, then you might see women in a different light in video games. But again, it is all pixels, Not real.
And is Liara T'Soni real? IS that what you are saying. Because most games i play isnt based on any real life people. And only a few games are based on real life events. But apparently by your logic, everything resembles something real.I have never seen an Elf in a chain mail bikini in real life. I have never seen an Asari in real life.
And then i have to wonder what kind of person would show a class of first graders a movie with a brutal rape and torture scene. Because you are putting words in my mouth, by stating i think games and movies classify as the same thing. I DO NOT! You might, but i dont. Because that IS NOT pixels. That is real people portraying characters, on film. It is easy to identify with some movies. Of course, people like to show children Passion of the Christ, which i find VERY offensive, not just because of the religion in the movie either. Of course then you reach the realms of cartoons, which IS just pixels. You dont see millions of Japanese kids going on raping sprees because they saw some tentacle rape anime porn. (This is why we have age limits on various shit in this country, something i support)
If you dont see the difference, then your parents FAILED! Plain and Simple. And if your children dont see the difference, then YOU FAILED THEM!
And i like how you throw the whole "video game violence" shit in there too. That in itself is a total cop-out. Which brings us to my previous statement concerning the failing of parents. Same goes with movies when it comes to violence, if you dont know the difference, then someone failed you in your life.
Lets say we make an issue of all sex and violence from all games, movies, and TV. Then where would we be? NO Star Wars, no Star Trek, no Lord of the Rings, etc. etc. We would have us just boring shit, that wouldn't educate our minds or stimulate our senses.
And quite frankly, this whole thing is NOT an issue of beastiality. People can have their definitions from Websters dictionary all they want. The MAIN point, if you want to really get technical is this. THEY ARE REPRESENTED AS SENTIENT BEINGS. This is called inter-species relationships at this point. Are you saying that the character Spock is a product of beastiality. Or perhaps Belana Torres, who is half Klingon half Human. No, this is called INTER-SPECIES relationships.
Of course, it takes someone with half a brain to realize the difference between the two. Animals are NOT sentient beings. Argonians, and Kajait are sentient beings, NOT ANIMALS. They are highly evolved, intelligent beings. With communication and critical thinking skills.
But by most peoples definition, Worf and Troi making out is beastiality. I call it an inter-species relationship. But of course, my parents did not fail me.