Splinter Cell Blacklist: I'm done.

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Shocksplicer

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Today I watched this gameplay footage of the upcoming Splinter Cell Blacklist:


Suffice to say that I am done with Splinter Cell. I have, up until now, played every game in this series that has been released (apart from the portable installments). It has been one of my favourite series, and Chaos Theory is among my favourite games. My mates and I have even had some good times with the significantly less stealthy Conviction, despite it being nowhere near as good as the other installments.

But consider this the last straw. Running and Gunning, Zero Stealth and the ability to call in fucking AIR STRIKES?! Not to mention the fact that Michael Ironside, who has up till now been the voice of Sam in every game, has inexplicably been recast.

It's a sad state of affairs for my favourite pasttime when two of my favourite series (Splinter Cell and Hitman) have been dumbed down and needlessly meddled with to the point that they are now the exact same game, and it's not one I want to play.

What do you guys think? Will you be buying Splinter Cell Blacklist, or for that matter Hitman: Absolution? Do the changes bother you? Do you think they still look fun?
 

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Cyrus Hanley said:
They already explained why Michael Ironside isn't returning to voice Sam.

That's not really an explanation. I get that they wanted to use a new technique for the animations, but why not use Michael's voice instead of the mocap actors'?
 

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Shocksplicer said:
That's not really an explanation. I get that they wanted to use a new technique for the animations, but why not use Michael's voice instead of the mocap actors'?
Maybe they're really keen on the idea of not having to add voices later.

Or maybe Ironside doesn't want to do it any more.

You could try asking [URL-http://forums.ubi.com/forumdisplay.php/378-Splinter-Cell-Blacklist]here[/URL], but they might ignore you or call you a troll.

[http://picturepush.com/public/8527501]

I think the Captcha is sentient, because it's predicting Blacklist's value.

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imahobbit4062 said:
Magenera said:
Why they didn't just add in a new character and have Sam being in the background giving out orders while stemming the political tide is beyond me.
Also this. Especially since it's happened to every other Tom Clancy franchise.

The protagonist from the original Rainbow Six games are running the Rainbows in Vegas and Vegas 2.

Captain Mitchell from GRAW 1 and 2 is now leading the Ghosts in Future Soldier.

Why can't the same of been here?
In this interview [http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/11/maxime-beland-on-the-ghosts-and-panthers-of-splinter-cell-black/], Maxime Beland says, "Sam Fisher doesn't have an age."

Despite this:

[http://picturepush.com/public/8527574]

[http://picturepush.com/public/8527582]

And various other references in concept material and the novels. >_>
 

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Splinter Assassins of War Duty, there Ubisoft you got your new IP now stop shitting on an established name.

The game looks pretty good on it's own but it has nothing to do with Splinter Cell, sadly it looks like you are absurdly overpowered, at no point in that demo did gameplay seem challenging.
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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Another Splinter Cell made by that retard Beland. Not interested.

And Michael Ironside isn't returning because he said numerous times that Conviction is his last SC. And I can't blame him after what they've done with the story in Conviction.
 

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Yeah you know I was willing to put up with convictions new run and cover gun minimal stealth gameplay because we still had Sam. (Actually no I couldn't so I just watched my friend play it and hate it along with me.)
But without Ironside, it's not Sam Fisher. I am sorry but that voice made that character.
So with that final remaining element of old Splinter Cell being smothered out I am right there with you. Done.
 

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It actually reminds me of the stealth in Arkham City and the Assassin's Creed games.

That is to say, any sense of challenge or tactics gets defused by the glut of gadgets and abilities you have at your disposal.

Not fussed about the change of voice actor. The old guy didn't bring anything particularly remarkable to the table. Besides, it's not like Sam Fisher is much of a character. He's just Tough Soldier Guy #48663. I can't be bothered kicking up a fuss over exactly what flavour of grumbles he comes with.
 

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Zhukov said:
It actually reminds me of the stealth in Arkham City and the Assassin's Creed games.

That is to say, any sense of challenge or tactics gets defused by the glut of gadgets and abilities you have at your disposal.

Not fussed about the change of voice actor. The old guy didn't bring anything particularly remarkable to the table. Besides, it's not like Sam Fisher is much of a character. He's just Tough Soldier Guy #48663. I can't be bothered kicking up a fuss over exactly what flavour of grumble he comes with.
Which, for me, is exactly why Ironsides? contribution to Sam was such a big deal. Because just that voice gave life to what was not that remarkable of a character.
 

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Zhukov said:
Not fussed about the change of voice actor. The old guy didn't bring anything particularly remarkable to the table. Besides, it's not like Sam Fisher is much of a character. He's just Tough Soldier Guy #48663. I can't be bothered kicking up a fuss over exactly what flavour of grumbles he comes with.
Be that as it may, at least he was a fairly distinctive sounding Tough Soldier Guy. I quite liked Ironside as Sam, even if it doesn't really make sense for the character to have a slight Canadian accent.
And besides, when you have a character voiced by the same actor over 5 console installments and a handful of portables it seems like a shame to kill the streak.
 

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Chester Rabbit said:
Zhukov said:
[Sam Fisher hate]
Which, for me, is exactly why Ironsides? contribution to Sam was such a big deal. Because just that voice gave life to what was not that remarkable of a character.

Shocksplicer said:
Zhukov said:
[Sam Fisher hate]
Be that as it may, at least he was a fairly distinctive sounding Tough Soldier Guy. I quite liked Ironside as Sam, even if it doesn't really make sense for the character to have a slight Canadian accent.
And besides, when you have a character voiced by the same actor over 5 console installments and a handful of portables it seems like a shame to kill the streak.
Yeah, fair enough.

That seems like a legit way of looking at it.
 

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I'm not that bothered about the change, I'll still play it. If I want to play a classic Splinter Cell, I'll go back and replay Chaos Theory.
 

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nikki191 said:
i watched the video but you cheeky person putting in a call of duty video . so where is the splinter cell video?
What you did there, in that post - I saw it.

OT: Stealth games are largely dead. Too many people want guns a'blazing for any big time publishers and developers to invest in the slow paced shadow crawlers. Big in the 90's. Pretty small now.