SPOILER: Did you make sense of the Assassin Creed 2 Ending?

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Axolotl

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omega 616 said:
I didn't get Africa from that video but I didn't get aliens either, I didn't get aliens from the holographic woman either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilamanjaro
You can see it clearly in the background of The Truth.
 

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Smack-Ferret said:
Yeah now in AC3 we'll be assassinating solar flares.
MOST. EPIC. PREDICTION. EVER.

Ten thousand points to Ubisoft if they actually make us assassinate a solar flare.
 

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Axolotl said:
omega 616 said:
I didn't get Africa from that video but I didn't get aliens either, I didn't get aliens from the holographic woman either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilamanjaro
You can see it clearly in the background of The Truth.
Congrats for recognizing a mountain range, I was busy watching the naked, glowing people running like Ezio.

(I wasn't being sarcastic)
 

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So, are we to expect John Cusack to come and rescue Desmond in the next AC?
All this 2012 stuff is starting to grind

But I kind of understood the ending, the legend of Adam and Eve, maybe thats the reason behind the 2 first humans, they used the piece of eden to survive the solar flares and kick started the human race again. It all fits really, just a bit cryptically
 

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At first I "What the hell kind of a bullshit ending is that?!" then I completed subject 16's quest and saw The Truth video. That video combined with re-watching the ending with subtitles helped make more sense of what was happening, however I still have a lot of questions.
 

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I don't care how many times I watch that ending, there is no scientific explanation as to how they can use magic.

Don't try to tell me that it's science to advanced for me to comprehend. It's magic. They just say that it's science because they think that if they give an explanation that doesn't have anything to do with magic people will accept it, no matter how implausible it is.

I fucking won't accept it.

When you try to do sci-fi, you have to downplay the science for gods sake. In sci-fi, science is naturally there, and the setting is adapted to it. In fantasy, magic is often expected and so it doesn't need an explanation other than "It's fucking magic dude."

AC came disguised as an underplayed sci-fi game, much like how Pitch Black was an underplayed sci-fi film. The sci-fi is not thrown in your face and you are thankful for it. Then comes all the stupid plot twists at the end.

Things that are so incredibly far-fetched that my head hurts. In AC 1, I managed to survive it thanks to one thing. "It's magic, it has to be magic. I mean, it's the Holy Land, of course God has something to do with it". But then comes AC2 and tries to tell me that all this stuff is technology? Fuck you! That's awful storytelling, that's an awful plot-twist and it's stupid!

OK, flaming over.
 

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Axolotl said:
Yes.

Humanity was engineered by aliens from the sun from apes who were genetically modified using their powerful technology. The aliens used the Pieces of Eden to control humanity (using the redundant neurons they implanted. Then Adam/Eve rebel using the Pieces of Eden and there was a war between humans and the aliens the sun is used as a superweapon all the aliens die leaving only the vaults/PoE as their legacy.

Humanity then rebuilds itself, the aliens are remembered as gods. The Templars then find out about the PoE and attempt to use them to create a NWO but the assassins stop them repeatedly. However the sun superweapon is still active and Desmond must use the vaults to stop it, whilst the Templars continue to try and create their NWO.
I'll admit, my first impulse was to not believe this, but, I know you're serious... GAH!

Thanks for the heads up though. (Somehow I really can't bring myself to care about the plot of the AC games enough not to hunt down spoilers. (And shit like this is why.))
 

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HUBILUB said:
I don't care how many times I watch that ending, there is no scientific explanation as to how they can use magic.
Sure they can, sufficiently advanced technology.
 

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Axolotl said:
HUBILUB said:
I don't care how many times I watch that ending, there is no scientific explanation as to how they can use magic.
Sure they can, sufficiently advanced technology.
So if I explain anything by saying "It's because of science" that is a scientific explanation? Funny, because I thought that a scientific explanation needs to be backed up by scientific evidence. Otherwise it's a pseudoscientific explanation.
 

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HUBILUB said:
[So if I explain anything by saying "It's because of science" that is a scientific explanation? Funny, because I thought that a scientific explanation needs to be backed up by scientific evidence. Otherwise it's a pseudoscientific explanation.
Well it's better than explaining with scientific information because it means that in a few years it won't be outdated, a full up to date scientific explanation has a time limit on how long it can last before simply becoming wrong. Using the Sufficiently Advanced explanation keeps things just as justifiable without dating them.
 

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Axolotl said:
HUBILUB said:
[So if I explain anything by saying "It's because of science" that is a scientific explanation? Funny, because I thought that a scientific explanation needs to be backed up by scientific evidence. Otherwise it's a pseudoscientific explanation.
Well it's better than explaining with scientific information because it means that in a few years it won't be outdated, a full up to date scientific explanation has a time limit on how long it can last before simply becoming wrong. Using the Sufficiently Advanced explanation keeps things just as justifiable without dating them.
It would be best if they either settled with magic and having the superior alien race or whatever they where being real gods instead of just being seen like gods, or at least have the pseudoscientific explanations explained in a more subtle way. If you have such a massive pseudoscientific explanation as to why the world was created, the last thing you'll want to do is to have it as a plot twist in the very end of the game. It'll just leave some people furious because it makes everything up to that point seem pointless (example: ME).

I know a theme in AC2 is realizing that Ezio was just a pawn the whole time and that everything he's done has been nothing but a very very vague hint at the story for AC3, but it felt like an extremely huge "Fuck you" to me. Everything I've done, all that I've played and now the game says that I was only supposed to do this little thing. It pissed me off, mostly because I think that AC2 had been a lot better if there was no Desmond at all. The story tries to be all indie and cool, with sci-fi and shit, but sometimes, they should just run the course and keep a consistent setting.
 

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HUBILUB said:
Axolotl said:
HUBILUB said:
[So if I explain anything by saying "It's because of science" that is a scientific explanation? Funny, because I thought that a scientific explanation needs to be backed up by scientific evidence. Otherwise it's a pseudoscientific explanation.
Well it's better than explaining with scientific information because it means that in a few years it won't be outdated, a full up to date scientific explanation has a time limit on how long it can last before simply becoming wrong. Using the Sufficiently Advanced explanation keeps things just as justifiable without dating them.
It would be best if they either settled with magic and having the superior alien race or whatever they where being real gods instead of just being seen like gods, or at least have the pseudoscientific explanations explained in a more subtle way. If you have such a massive pseudoscientific explanation as to why the world was created, the last thing you'll want to do is to have it as a plot twist in the very end of the game. It'll just leave some people furious because it makes everything up to that point seem pointless (example: ME).

I know a theme in AC2 is realizing that Ezio was just a pawn the whole time and that everything he's done has been nothing but a very very vague hint at the story for AC3, but it felt like an extremely huge "Fuck you" to me. Everything I've done, all that I've played and now the game says that I was only supposed to do this little thing. It pissed me off, mostly because I think that AC2 had been a lot better if there was no Desmond at all. The story tries to be all indie and cool, with sci-fi and shit, but sometimes, they should just run the course and keep a consistent setting.
Wow, you really expect a video game to sit and talk made up science to you until you know every little detail of how the entire fictional universe works? Of course you don't, cause it's a game, not a damn lecture, hence the light show to go with it when the woman showers you with metaphors. In case you forgot it's the middle child of a trilogy, the end of the second installment of anything is always like this, it leaves you with questions and the only way to get the answers is to buy the next one. It wasn't a little thing getting this information to Desmond either, that's why it's a plot twist.