Spore and the debate on evolution

[Bakery]

Religious extremists fighting with atheists over video games is the same as fourteen year olds fighting over pokemon, retarded.

 

[klarax]

I think that apes evolved from man, and not the other way around.

 

[Dommyboy]

The closest thing people will get to evolution in Spore is when they finish their penis monsters, office chair monsters or video game character recreations.

 

[sheomad]

*sigh* i suppose it would be are generation that complains about everything aka "Spore teaches the theory of evolution their for i am offended" i mean hell im pretty sure when Mario came out for the Nintendo 64 Italians weren't screaming RACIEST!....canole......thats a spicy meat ah ballah sry im getting carried away

 

[Beefcakes]

Well, think about it like this:
IF, Will Wright was some one trying to get us to believe in religion X and that theorems 1, 2 and 3 are (W)right (I'm sorry, I'm so, so sorry..) by sneaking them into games to subliminally think his way, it didn't really work did it? I mean we are talking about it on a public forum
So really, I believe that he was trying to, oh I don't know, make a game? For our enjoyment?
(Not to mention stacks of cash for him)
Can't for once we take something at face value, and not try to undermine this game for what it might have been subliminally-trying-to-say-even-thought-he-said-publicly-it-didn't?
It will truly be an awesome (Awe inspiring, not slang) game though, no doubt...

 

[Uncompetative]

Religious extremists fighting with atheists over video games is the same as fourteen year olds fighting over pokemon, retarded.

It is not the atheists that are retarded...

 

[SmugFrog]

Speaking as a Christian - I'm very excited to play Spore, and I think it has some awesome gameplay elements thrown in. I also liked Black & White, and an old game called EVO for the Super Nintendo (which was pratically dripping with evolutionary theory). I even knew a Baptist preacher that loved to play Diablo.

The problem is when "religious" people start blabbing about something being the "downfall of civilization" without even having a clue what they're arguing about. Like the devil himself is inside of these games. Some of them are even freaked out by Disney movies and the subject of magic. There has to be some common sense somewhere - but this is why Christians (IMO) are viewed as nutjobs, because they're more than happy to tell you how you're "going to hell" in their opinion.

These games are a source of entertainment, even though some of them have a message behind them (if I have to listen to any more Kojima to enjoy his games, I'm going to pull my hair out). If you're looking to them to believe in something, you're really looking in the wrong place.

 

[goodguy]

Spore happens to be more similar to creationism than to evolution, but I it doesn't try to make a political point, it just fits the gameplay better.

And it is really funny how ignorant some people on this forums are. For your information: Biologically humans ARE apes as humans and apes both belong to the same family within the order of primates. And we did NOT evolve from the nonhuman apes that exist today but from common ancestors, that are now extinct.

 

[shadow skill]

@Jeffries:

True true. The only game that should foster debate in schools is BioShock, so the kids don't have to read Rand and Nietzsche and turn into little snarky jerks for the rest of high school.

Because gamers are never little snarky jerks.

Why do I get the feeling I would rather have them read the works of those men than play Bioshock?

 

[DamienHell]

I'm an atheist and I'm not offended by this. No one in their right mind should be offended by this. Creationists: IT HAS EVOLUTION. Deal with it *****, its and game and a theory accepted by the vast majority of scientists i.e. the people actually smart enough to make an informed decision. Atheists: THERES RELIGION ALL THROUGHOUT THE CIV STAGE WITH NO SIGN OF ATHEISTS! Deal with it *****, its a game and you play as god! You are god! If those motherfuckers DIDN'T worship me I'd stick their noses just above their asses

 

[Woe Is You]

Three words: evolution is a lie.

Also, monkeys don't live several million years. Ergo, evolution is a lie.

Religion relies on faith,
Science relies on rational deduction.

You got it backwards.

Creationism is based upon science, reason and tons of evidence.

Evolution is based on the blind acceptance of superstitions and fairy tales.

(Oh come on, people, don't you read Fundies Say The Darndest Things? [http://www.fstdt.com/fundies/top100.aspx?archive=1])

 

[Copter400]

Hey, who hear reads VGCats?

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=199

 

[SmugFrog]

That was one of my favorites. Did you search the database to see how many users have already created that thing?

 

[Hyzenthlay]

Creationist theory is undeniably biased.However there is no use arguing about it as both parties believe they are right and no matter how hard they try will not be able to change each others minds.
Let me ask two questions though:
1. Why cant there be both evolution and a higher being?
2. Why would a scientist who researches evolution lie? If the evidence they found indicated that evolution was incorrect and creation right why would they lie and thus anger the god they have found proof of?
As a university science student with an open mind I have seen much evidence that supports evolution, Im undecided on the existance of a god, but am not set against it.

 

[clarinetJWD]

Actually, as a Christian, Spore falls right in line with the majority of modern Christians' beliefs. The Expanded Gap theory is based on the seven days of creation, where a day to God may very well be a few million years. Let there be light is the Big Bang (or if that theory breaks down, whatever force shaped the universe), et cetera. Evolution exists, as driven by God.

Really, it's a matter of those who are offended (young earth creationists, mostly) that you would hear from, because people don't get all worked up and take to the streets yelling "I agree with that!"

 

[Versuvius]

Im not too sure what the whole issue is honestly. Okay some people have gone berserk over the sporn but the militant atheists seem to have it in their head that Darwinism...evolution is religion. No. It isnt. Its scientifically proven fact thats been observed in bacteria. They grew a load. Killed off most, observed the remaining ones, did the same over and over again and observed actual evolution in those bactera, mutated genes and such...so as Yhatzee once said 'go team retard!' (note if i offended any militant atheists or fundamnetalists in this view and i am a nasty evil heretic, please feel free to tell god to give my name to satan)

though in retrospect i suppose what i just said is void since even proof and evidence wont change the mind of X and Y parties.

 

[EOr]

I'm an Atheist and I'm actually writing a paper on Spore for my College composition class called, Spore: Should I be offended? I'm definately going to buy the game, it looks really great.

I'm an athiest and am totally inspired by Spore. My first creation was the Flying Spagetti Monster! http://www.venganza.org/