SPY UPDATE IN TF2!!!

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throwitinthetrash

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Conspiracy theory threads are the best.
Personally, unless the revolver alternative is amazing, I'll get no use out of this update.
I play spy (main class) very fluently, never stopping and I don't see how purposely getting yourself shot so you can cloak is a good idea.

I will enjoy blasting snipers in the head 3 times instead of running up to them, though.
 

Boxinatorizore

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Cheesebob said:
That is very, very cool.

Hopefully they don't make the very powerful weapons unlockable first *cough*Force Of Nature*cough*
Force-A-Nature isn't that powerful. It has -20% damage and theres only 2 bullets per clip. It just has knock-back and more bullets in the spread per shot. I can't use it at all.
 

Lukeydoodly

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The update will include items for the Sniper and the Spy.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/58658

Sorry if already posted.
 

I3uster

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Abedeus said:
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Abedeus said:
Holy crap dude. Awesome, two of the funniest, but the least popular classes finally getting an update.
LEAST popular?
LEAST?!
Hah!
Okay, they are popular. But not often seen on servers, at least on pubs. Why? Because they are hard to play good ;p Like Medics or Soldiers.
Because people think when using a class.
The team that has 3 pyros is superior to the team with 3 spies.
The two are support classes, 1 of em is enough for a whole team.
 

Jupsto

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seem both those spy ideas on forums. :p

the new cloak watch I think its pretty lame. i mean whos not going to choose to have that, wont change gameplay much just will mean more inivisble spys camping in corners, instead of camping ontop of enemy dispensers (like I do).

the other thing is awesome, but this razor back the sniper is getting? wtf. no backstabs... seems like it might be very overpowered, especially if it isn't visable...
 

dthvirus

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Man, oh man. Mister Sentry Gun and I are going to have to weather this sappin' storm together. Thank the gods that most Spies can't stab 'n' sap without being killed.

*warily hunkers down behind Sentry Gun, wrench in hand*
 

not a zaar

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The question is were all those sniper updates fake, or are they going to roll out two class updates at once?
 

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Boxinatorizore said:
Cheesebob said:
That is very, very cool.

Hopefully they don't make the very powerful weapons unlockable first *cough*Force Of Nature*cough*
Force-A-Nature isn't that powerful. It has -20% damage and theres only 2 bullets per clip. It just has knock-back and more bullets in the spread per shot. I can't use it at all.
It is powerful at close range -___-
 

scotth266

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Abedeus said:
Cajt said:
Abedeus said:
Holy crap dude. Awesome, two of the funniest, but the least popular classes finally getting an update.
LEAST popular?
LEAST?!
Hah!
Okay, they are popular. But not often seen on servers, at least on pubs. Why? Because they are hard to play good ;p Like Medics or Soldiers.
Lies! At least with regards to snipers. I can't count the number of times I've jumped into a server filled to the brim with swaggering Australians.

Spies are much more of a rarity. The standing still option will likely give Pyros an even bigger reason to be paranoid... It's good that the spy is seeing some love though.
 

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Boxinatorizore said:
Cheesebob said:
That is very, very cool.

Hopefully they don't make the very powerful weapons unlockable first *cough*Force Of Nature*cough*
Force-A-Nature isn't that powerful. It has -20% damage and theres only 2 bullets per clip. It just has knock-back and more bullets in the spread per shot. I can't use it at all.
It's, in total, only 4% less damage, actually...
 

SirMax

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The Great JT said:
What, you mean this? [http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/spy_achievements_fake.jpg]

For one, that's fake. At the bottom of the page it says "Hoax by Ka anin." And for two, Valve's working on the Sniper Update as we speak.
No, he means the one ON THEIR BLOG. THAT HE POSTED A LINK TO.
 

llamastorm.games

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joking said:
mcgooch said:
Why dose PS3 never get these cool updates
Valve pretty much hates the ps3.

Then again if you bought a Valve game for anything other than the PC you got a raw deal.
Valve hates ps3's they never do updates or anything.
They don't even port the games themselves they outsource it to other companies because they cant be bothered because it's such a bad console to develop for.
 

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llamastorm.games said:
joking said:
mcgooch said:
Why dose PS3 never get these cool updates
Valve pretty much hates the ps3.

Then again if you bought a Valve game for anything other than the PC you got a raw deal.
Valve hates ps3's they never do updates or anything.
They don't even port the games themselves they outsource it to other companies because they cant be bothered because it's such a bad console to develop for.
Oh wow.

It's not a bad console.
It's just badly designed for programming, and Valve can't be bothered to do it themselves. Not worth the effort, they say. But PS3 is NOT a bad console, dammit. (all consoles are just bad, cough cough)
 

llamastorm.games

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Saphatorael said:
llamastorm.games said:
joking said:
mcgooch said:
Why dose PS3 never get these cool updates
Valve pretty much hates the ps3.

Then again if you bought a Valve game for anything other than the PC you got a raw deal.
Valve hates ps3's they never do updates or anything.
They don't even port the games themselves they outsource it to other companies because they cant be bothered because it's such a bad console to develop for.
Oh wow.

It's not a bad console.
It's just badly designed for programming, and Valve can't be bothered to do it themselves. Not worth the effort, they say. But PS3 is NOT a bad console, dammit. (all consoles are just bad, cough cough)
I didnt say it was a bad console as a console goes, none of them are they all have their own merits.
It's just harder and more expensive to develop for making it bad to develop for, the xbox360 and the PC use similar architecture and so little work needs to be done to port between the 2 so most companies find it very cost effective to soley develop for those 2 machines.

It isnt worth the effort to get low sales and spending more money to do the same they can do for less on a PC or Xbox360.
Never actually said it was a bad console.
 

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llamastorm.games said:
I didnt say it was a bad console as a console goes, none of them are they all have their own merits.
It's just harder and more expensive to develop for making it bad to develop for, the xbox360 and the PC use similar architecture and so little work needs to be done to port between the 2 so most companies find it very cost effective to soley develop for those 2 machines.

It isnt worth the effort to get low sales and spending more money to do the same they can do for less on a PC or Xbox360.
Never actually said it was a bad console.
Please, VALVe has had over 3 years to get used to developing for the PS3, everyone else has.

What really pisses me off about VALVe (most specifically, Gabe Newell) is that when he announced Left 4 Dead he said "If L4D sells well, we might consider a PS3 port."

HellOOO!!! You're fucking VALVe! Of fucking course it's going to sell well! It's been selling well since it's launch and you have yet to give us a god damn taste of it! Don't give us false hope of a PS3 version, just say "We don't intend to release L4D on PS3" and be don't with it, don't say "we may make a L4D for PS3.....if it sells well!"

fucking assholes........

that said, TF2 is just making me wish all the more I had a better PC. Fuck!
 

The Great JT

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To be honest, I hate playing Spy because the job gets harder as the other players' skill increases. Also, I'm more of a defensive player. Y'know, Engineer, Heavy who stands by a dispenser and just fires non-stop, Soldier who runs around the base and stalls potential attackers, Scout who runs around the base and acts as a very flimsy early-warning system. Every class CAN be used defensively and offensively, and I prefer the defensive. Spy CAN be used defensively by destroying infiltrator forward bases and sentry nests, but again, the better enemy players are, the harder the Spy's job is. It's not that I don't like a hard game, it's that I like being able to get established against attackers, like plonking down and upgrading Sentries and Dispensers.