Square-Enix is Stupid and blind

[mxfox408]

There have been multiple posts and requests along with petitions to get square to remake FF VII in HD. The problem is they keep releasing crap like XIII and XIII-2, don't get me started on their failure XIV.they have tons of excuses for not wanting to go back and remake VII, so far the excuses that have stood out the most is: it will take too long or we don't have the resources. Really square? you make a crappy MMORPG and it fails, but you don't have the resources to make a single player game? For a top notch company to claim its impossible, just shows how much in the crapper they have fallen, Back in the squaresoft days the word impossible, was not in their vocabulary. A top notch company never claims its too hard or it will take too long. They simply make it happen, in fact its a gold mine that is remaining untapped. Now to make a claim that its impossible or it will take to many resources, look at this trailer, also this game is on the Wii a system that does not have HD graphics and has limited resources compared to the PS3's hardware and capacity of a Bluray disk and Microsoft's Super DVDs.


Now if a smaller company can do this with a Wii, whats stopping a giant like square from doing it on a 360 or a PS3? They are Stupid to believe fans will fall for that kind of statement. They are blind because they are sitting on gold and they are to stupid to capitalize on it

 

[Kopikatsu]

The problem is they keep releasing crap like XIII and XIII-2

Opinion. FFXIII sold 1.5 million copies in the first week, and FFXIII-2 has sold 1.64~ million copies since February 4th.

Just because you don't like the game (And most people on this site don't) doesn't mean that other people don't like the game. If you went on what you heard online, MW3's sales would have barely bought you a shack. But there it went, breaking every sales record known to man. So there you go.

 

[scorptatious]

The problem is they keep releasing crap like XIII and XIII-2

Opinion. FFXIII sold 1.5 million copies in the first week, and FFXIII-2 has sold 1.64~ million copies since February 4th.

Just because you don't like the game (And most people on this site don't) doesn't mean that other people don't like the game.

Quoted for truth.

OT: I do kinda agree though, it does seem kind of odd how they claim they can't make an FFVII remake when they clearly had the resources to make an MMO.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Squeenix does seem to be floundering for something stable in their Final Fantasy name.
Sales figures alone don't really tell the whole story here: between real-life and online comments, I've seen a far more tepid reaction to every FF game made since 12 than the universal love and praise (and backlash hate) the series used to command.
In short: I've met far more people who are simply bored or disappointed with the series than those who are polarized into loving or hating it (with fandom and hype comes backlash).

Given Squeenix's poor financial performance as of late, I'd say that Final Fantasy (13 or 14) isn't the boon they've been hoping for and I know that Squeenix has sunk a tremendous amount of cash into re-developing the FF core franchise since FF12.

I played a bit of FF13-2 at a friends over the weekend, and I'm not all that impressed (now with 100% more Choco-fursuit!...UGH!) with the improvements.

On the other hand, Squeenix is terrified of doing a FF7 remake because of expectations.
Redoing the entire game in higher definition graphics would prove expensive. Crisis Core looked decent on the PSP (apart from the fangasm CGI cutscenes that make you wish you could do that shit in the actual gameplay), and it retailed at a higher price than most other PSP titles on the market at that time.

That shit isn't cheap. Besides, if they remade FF7, they would have to include all of that retarded FF7-Compendium crap; content where the stupid fanservice grossly outnumbered attempts at telling a decent story in the same world.

Remaking FF7 would only be feasible if Squeenix had strong profit-margins; and right now, they don't. At all.

 

[burningdragoon]

They are 'stupid' and 'blind' for not remaking a single game that is not as simple as most people assume it would be? Yeah that makes sense. Claiming something is a gold mine, doesn't make it true.

Disclaimer: I didn't like 13 either, but seriously, some people need to grow up. (not necessarily directed at the OP)

 

[ResonanceGames]

They need to just let Final Fantasy rest for a few years, and bring it back once they remember why the hell that franchise was good in the first place.

The one thing they have been doing right is focusing on their Eidos properties and, if Human Revolution is any indication, committing to not change the core of what makes them great. Though I'm even more skeptical of Thief 4 than I was of Deus Ex.

 

[zombieshark6666]

Anyone asking for a FF7 remake should be stabbed in the neck by a talking moogle/crossbow thing. Or maybe they should become Red XIII's breakfast, I don't know.

 

[Lilani]

The problem is they keep releasing crap like XIII and XIII-2

Opinion. FFXIII sold 1.5 million copies in the first week, and FFXIII-2 has sold 1.64~ million copies since February 4th.

Just because you don't like the game (And most people on this site don't) doesn't mean that other people don't like the game.

Quoted for truth.

OT: I do kinda agree though, it does seem kind of odd how they claim they can't make an FFVII remake when they clearly had the resources to make an MMO.

Don't forget: they made FFXIV while still supporting and updating their first MMO, Final Fantasy XI (which is still running and updating to this day). 14 was supposed to be a continuation of 11, they even put in a system where you could import your character name and some data directly from 11 to 14. But obviously 14 fell very short of the mark, though I have heard good things about the story.

Anyway, it does seem like pretty blatant trolling to do a FFX remake and not FFVII, with how long people have wanted it. Then again they've also ignored people's complaints about Kingdom Hearts, with the lack of consistent console choice and the lack of a "proper" sequel since KH2. Square must wallpaper their offices with posters that say "And not a single fuck was given that day."

 

[burningdragoon]

Some further reading on the FFVII thing: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/experienced-points/7652-The-Final-Fantasy-VII-Remake-is-a-Fantasy

Anyway, it does seem like pretty blatant trolling to do a FFX remake and not FFVII, with how long people have wanted it. Then again they've also ignored people's complaints about Kingdom Hearts, with the lack of consistent console choice and the lack of a "proper" sequel since KH2. Square must wallpaper their offices with posters that say "And not a single fuck was given that day."

Yeah, the FFX things is kind of a big slap to the face, but still, FFX would be significantly easier to remake than any of the PS1 games, and even a noticeably easier to remake than FFXII just because of how super linear X is.

I am actually a more annoyed that FFV and FFVI didn't get the same love as FFIV, which got both a solid 3D remake for DS and a gorgeous 2D remake for PSP.

I agree that the Kingdom Hearts series is getting out of hand as well. Versus XIII seems to have been lost in time too and DAMMIT MAKE ANOTHER CHRONO GAME!

*ahem*

See guys, there are plenty of things to complain about Squeenix without retreading the same tired old FFVII thing.

 

[FalloutJack]

Without actually taking one side or the other on this argument, I would like to point out one important thing. No company knows exactly what to do with itself in the history of man on this planet. Businesses don't take in good business practices anymore. Economics and business courses are guidelines to them only, not facts and proper venues in how to manage these things.

So, OF COURSE they won't see where the real money is.

 

[ThoughtlessConcept]

I'm looking forward to Final Fantasy X HD, just saying.

 

[Gabbytrack]

I am actually a more annoyed that FFV and FFVI didn't get the same love as FFIV, which got both a solid 3D remake for DS and a gorgeous 2D remake for PSP.

I agree, although I did enjoy FFIV I think that an FFVI remake would be amazing. Just hope Squeenix does it one day.

 

[Gizmo1990]

The problem is they keep releasing crap like XIII and XIII-2

Opinion. FFXIII sold 1.5 million copies in the first week, and FFXIII-2 has sold 1.64~ million copies since February 4th.

Just because you don't like the game (And most people on this site don't) doesn't mean that other people don't like the game. If you went on what you heard online, MW3's sales would have barely bought you a shack. But there it went, breaking every sales record known to man. So there you go.

While I did not like 13 and did not like what my friend has shown me of 13-2 I do agree that people need to stop with the 'I do not like it, so it is shit and everyone needs to agree with me or they are stupid' attitude. That being said you cannot use sales figuers to show that people liked a game. I bought FF 13, as did alot of people. I did not like it as did alot of people who bought it, so you cannot use me or anyone who bought it and did not like it in your argument.

I know 2 people who liked 13, bought 13-2, and do not like it and I have seen post from members of The Escapist saying that they liked 13 but disliked 13-2.

 

[MetalMagpie]

The problem is they keep releasing crap like XIII and XIII-2

FFXIII was the fastest selling Final Fantasy game of all time, has a score of 83% on Metacritic and completely wowed the Japanese market. FFXIII sold 1.7 million units in Japan by the end of 2009 (one for every 75 people) but only one million units in the entire of North America.

I think you may have to accept that the Japanese audience is (and always will be) Square's priority. Unless Japanese gamers want a remake of a fifteen-year-old game more than they want a brand new Final Fantasy, it will never make commercial sense to do it.

 

[Zeh Don]

Personally, I really don't like the way Square-Enix conducts themselves.
As a publisher, they so desperately want the massive profits of Activision-Blizzard, and believe that milking their established franchises is the way to get there.
Deus Ex: Human Revolution proved a well received title and sold quite well. They double the developer studio's workforce, driving up their costs and driving down their flexibility in terms of taking risks, and book them to make nothing but sequels.

As a developer, they're so far out of touch with their audience that they just fumble in the dark and have no idea why "Final Fantasy" isn't bigger than "Madden" or "Call of Duty". They released XIII and XIV and were genuinely surprised when each title didn't sell their projected 6 and 4 million copies respectively.

Final Fantasy saved Square from bankruptcy, so I can understand their attachment to it. Before XI and XII, Final Fantasy was a massive name in gaming - and a contender for the RPG Crown. Now, it's little more than a poster child for what's wrong with Japanese developers and why gaming is in a rut that only the Independent Developers seem to be able to break out of.

If they just got back to their bread and butter, SquareEnix could be a massive brand again. People bitching for remakes and re-hashes? Honestly, guys, no. Enough. No more "Final Fantasy: Anniversary: 3D - Dream Down Dustpan - Edition: Re-cut HD+" shit. Making solid, fun, meaningful RPGs like Enix and Square of old did is in, my humble opinion, the best way to get their customers and reputation.
Their SNES RPGs are literally the stuff of legends. We don't need cutting edge HD Visuals that come at the cost of character, story, quests, exploration, re-playability and everything else that made their games fun and loveable. We need memorable stories and characters in worlds that we explore and get to love, and that are worth saving. AND FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY LET US PLAY THE FUCKING GAME INSTEAD OF WATCHING IT PLAY ITSELF.

Seriously: am original, sprite based SNES-style RPG with today's technology in the background? Throw that fucker up on XBLA and PSN - or whatever the fuck it's called now - and watch the money roll in. Pump 'em out on the side, while they dig FF's grave, and at least keep something original flowing out of the dead grey husk that is responsible for some of the most memorable gaming moments of my life.

 

[Gatx]

I actually didn't notice this was another "Square should remake FFVII" thread until half way through writing this post so I had to rewrite it. They don't want to do it, they're not going to do it. In this age where people complain about the barrage of remakes and reboots, people continually WANT and RAGE for this one, it's weird. Why do you even want this so much? You have the original game, it's even in 3D. Do you really care about updated graphics THAT much?

Square-Enix also does a lot more stuff than you might realize so

If they just got back to their bread and butter, SquareEnix could be a massive brand again. People bitching for remakes and re-hashes? Honestly, guys, no. Enough. No more "Final Fantasy: Anniversary: 3D - Dream Down Dustpan - Edition: Re-cut HD+" shit. Making solid, fun, meaningful RPGs like Enix and Square of old did is in, my humble opinion, the best way to get their customers and reputation.
Their SNES RPGs are literally the stuff of legends. We don't need cutting edge HD Visuals that come at the cost of character, story, quests, exploration, re-playability and everything else that made their games fun and loveable. We need memorable stories and characters in worlds that we explore and get to love, and that are worth saving. AND FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY LET US PLAY THE FUCKING GAME INSTEAD OF WATCHING IT PLAY ITSELF.

You have to remember that Square Enix doesn't just make Final Fantasy games. They're also known for Dragon Quest. Where Final Fantasy is constantly seen as the big budget, super spectacular, epic, eye candy adventure with CGI cutscenes, Dragon Quest is pretty bare bones, classic RPG (though the latest one is doing the MMO thing, we'll just see how that turns out). The latest NUMBERED entry was on the DS so obviously graphics aren't a concern. There's also Final Fantasy: 4 Heroes of Light which has many callbacks to the classic games in the series.

 

[ShindoL Shill]

You don't like the quality of their games, and think they're slipping, but you don't believe them when they say they don't have the resources to remake a game? I think that if someone known for making good-quality games starts making 'crap' games, that's a pretty big indicator that they can't keep making games like this.
They just released 13-2, and 14. 15 is probably being planned. They probably don't have the resources to decided to remake FF7, and keep making other games. Their Final Fantasy games keep getting bigger and stuffed full of scenery porn. That costs a lot of money. They aren't going to say "Look, they want this remake. Let's drop our new projects to make it."
And personally, I liked FF13. I don't care about faults, or how they changed it and fucked it up. It's a game. You play it for fun. I had fun. Therefore, it's a good game.

And think about this, people who want HD remakes: if a company just decided to remake a game you didn't want a remake of, I'm betting that lots of you would be like this:
"Oh my god, they're just cashing in on old games because they don't give a fuck. MAKE NEW GAMES YOU GREEDY WHORES! God, I don't want to replay an old game, I can just play the original. Where's my new game!"
And you might also be like this:
"Oh my god, they stopped caring about story, now they're just making fancy scenery to distract us!"
Here you're basically like this:
"Oh my god, they're ignoring the fans and making new games that I blindly hate because it's not the remake we all want! They don't care, they just want to make money. Look, this new game is a piece of crap. I want some fucking nostalgia, but I want it in HD because if I play the original my heavenly view of it will be spoiled by the old graphics compared to today's graphics."

So, in conclusion, SHUT UP AND PLAY THE GAMES THEY ACTUALLY MAKE! Or don't. You might miss out. FF15 might be even better than FF7.