Squirrel reviews the typical MP3 consumer

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00exmachina

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iamnotincompliance said:
Anarchemitis said:
Now, now, if you make your own mp3s, and not buy from crappy sources or steal them, they come off quite well. I, while filling said two gig Nano, pulled a double conversion from CD to lossless .wav to near lossless mp3 (as a direct conversion would have been far too simple [/sarcastic tone]), and I honestly can't tell the difference. I'm a bit of an audiophile, in that I can't really afford to be an audiophile but do what I can with surprising results, and, except for the fact most CDs don't have proper bass response, it all works perfectly fine for my purposes. Actually, it seems that the two songs I got free from iTunes for purchasing... something... have better bass than CD based wav based mp3, but that's a topic for another thread I've been thinking about starting.

Also, converting my .wavs to mp3 saved me 36 GB of space on my hard drive. Think about it.

[EDIT] And a two gig Nano is far easier to carry than the 100 CD tower that went into it.
Well, that is nice but conversion from CD isn't lossless. Music CD's are encoded at 144kbits when they are manufactured. So any compression scheme that can handle sampling at that rate will be lossless when ripping and encoding from a cd. Unless you're converting masters, all the lossless formats really do is eat space needlessly.
 

TheGreenManalishi

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iTunes is an abomination against media software.
I love my creative Zen stone. the screen might be tiny, it might be a ***** to navigate through, it might not even have breakout, but i love being able to drag and drop in windows explorer without installing some piece ofg crap marketing bollocks that's only use is to take up valuable disc space an put tracks on a glorified and tinny-sounding walkman.
 

tendo82

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Really!? People are having a discussion based on this troglodyte's post?

As nilcypher points out, this isn't a review - it's a rant. It's a rant in the grand tradition of the pompous comic book store owner The Simpsons so cleverly lampoon. It is also a poorly written diatribe that would be more at home on the Myspace page of this disenfranchised individual.

I also find the last paragraph pretty offensive in its xenophobia. But the most glaring error in this sophomoric effort is the writer?s failure to classify himself, the electronics salesman. So allow me to fill in. The electronics salesman is a person who should be damn glad people buy anything from him or the store foolish enough to employ this ass. Ultimately you are a customer hospitality service, your skills as a salesman are unwanted, and your piddling commission no doubt reflects this reality.

So do us all an enormous favor and move your "review" to Cnet, where maybe some other bitter individual can sympathize with you.
 

Rooster Cogburn

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This thread should be locked.

I'm not sure what word describes the type of review you've done here, but it's not "review."
 

TheIceface

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Why is iPod the most popular? Mostly advertising, personally I don't see much wrong with the iPod as long as you get it second hand. The prices are a joke, unfortunately, since I like to my "iPod" or whatever I have as a USB mass storage device, 1-4 Gb isn't going to cut it.

Try finding a more reliable high capacity Mp3 player with as much tech support. Now before you mention the Creative Zen, I haven't tried it, so I don't know about it, except that its also too expensive. Once people realize how much it costs to make high capacity mp3 players, the prices should go down, plus competition should help a lot, its just not there yet.

I don't think people are stupid for buying an ipod. Perhaps uninformed, or following a trend. Now, if you bought a Zune, I'm sorry, you must be stupid. Even if you had no idea how bad a knockoff made by Microsoft would be, no amount of ignorance can excuse you. Thats right, your sweet hearted grandmother who got you one for Christmas? A moron! No excuse!

PS, I use 2 sandisk 512Mb mp3player/recorder/fm radio models. They're not great, but they were cheap, and although I can't even hold enough songs to get me through a few days, its not too big a problem. Plus they run on triple AAAs, so that means I don't have to have a computer/wall to charge from. If someone wants to mail me an ipod, I wouldn't mind a 80gb+, don't bother with color screens, video, or touch, those aren't worth it either.
 

iamnotincompliance

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To each his own, I suppose, although if we truly want to yammer on about sound quality and the accurate reproduction of music until the end of time (which should probably be a thread in it's own right), then we'd be tossing [a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Audio"]DVD-Audio[/a] and [a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Audio_CD"]SACD[/a] at each other rather than encoding schemes. While I'd like to have either one of those at my disposal, I'll stick with the mp3 laden iPod because (a) even if either format was popular, that would still require repurchasing my entire library (plus something that can actually play said format) (b) I'd still have to carry them all with me to listen to them, which was the whole point of converting them to the easy-to-transport iPod in the first place, and (c) I listen to all... 263?... songs before and after each conversion. That's why I say I haven't heard the difference.

Now, if someone wants to be a bastard and throw the [a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Tape"]master tapes[/a] into the mix, fine, but I leave those out above because that'd be prohibitively expensive (to buy, and to buy the equipment to listen to), and that'd likely be even harder to carry around.

Again, to each his own, and that's why my cars have Pioneers capable of reproducing sound outside of the human hearing threshold.