St. George's Day, the English in a nutshell.

[Daystar Clarion]

OYAY. TODAY I CAN SNEAK A BIT OF RACISM I USUALLY WOULDN'T GET AWAY WITH WHILST I'M CELEBRATING.

"I'm gonna celebrate St. Georges Day and if you bloody Indians don't like it then GO BACK TO POLAND!"

I hope you realise anyone that pegs on that sort of sentiment to celebrating St Georges Day is in no way representative of the general populace?

And if you think it is, you're just as stupid as those espousing such hateful bullshit.

I'm pretty sure she was being sarcastic.

The English like to do that, you know.

Being British, I'm well aware

Sarcasm however doesn't come across well online, so hey.

But...

But it wasn't even subtle.

 

[Pandalisk]

As an Anglo-Irish person whose namesake comes from Saint George i can safely say i am the son of Dova.

 

[EeveeElectro]

OYAY. TODAY I CAN SNEAK A BIT OF RACISM I USUALLY WOULDN'T GET AWAY WITH WHILST I'M CELEBRATING.

"I'm gonna celebrate St. Georges Day and if you bloody Indians don't like it then GO BACK TO POLAND!"

I hope you realise anyone that pegs on that sort of sentiment to celebrating St Georges Day is in no way representative of the general populace?

And if you think it is, you're just as stupid as those espousing such hateful bullshit.

I'm pretty sure she was being sarcastic.

The English like to do that, you know.

Sometimes people don't understand our sarcasm
Although (this is most likely a problem where I live because I live in a city with the most diverse ethnic groups) the people who loudly celebrate St. Georges day will usually escalate into "...and The Sun said these bloody foreigners are ordering us to take down our flags because it offends them!! Obviously everything in the news is true so they can fuck off!"

Again, probably a much bigger problem in my city. It gets really tense because it's so diverse (Race riots happened in 2001) so I'm just too lazy/can't be bothered hearing the ignorant and stupid comments off people in this city to celebrate it ;_;

 

[Stasisesque]

OYAY. TODAY I CAN SNEAK A BIT OF RACISM I USUALLY WOULDN'T GET AWAY WITH WHILST I'M CELEBRATING.

"I'm gonna celebrate St. Georges Day and if you bloody Indians don't like it then GO BACK TO POLAND!"

I hope you realise anyone that pegs on that sort of sentiment to celebrating St Georges Day is in no way representative of the general populace?

And if you think it is, you're just as stupid as those espousing such hateful bullshit.

I'm pretty sure she was being sarcastic.

The English like to do that, you know.

Sometimes people don't understand our sarcasm
Although (this is most likely a problem where I live because I live in a city with the most diverse ethnic groups) the people who loudly celebrate St. Georges day will usually escalate into "...and The Sun said these bloody foreigners are ordering us to take down our flags because it offends them!! Obviously everything in the news is true so they can fuck off!"

Again, probably a much bigger problem in my city. It gets really tense because it's so diverse (Race riots happened in 2001) so I'm just too lazy/can't be bothered hearing the ignorant and stupid comments off people in this city to celebrate it ;_;

See, it's really hard to tell when you're being sarcastic and when you're making a point using hyperbole. In Midnight Llamaman's defence, it does look like you think the people who celebrate St. George's Day do so as a nationalistic protest against immigrants.

I am very well versed in sarcasm and you have me confused too.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

OYAY. TODAY I CAN SNEAK A BIT OF RACISM I USUALLY WOULDN'T GET AWAY WITH WHILST I'M CELEBRATING.

"I'm gonna celebrate St. Georges Day and if you bloody Indians don't like it then GO BACK TO POLAND!"

I hope you realise anyone that pegs on that sort of sentiment to celebrating St Georges Day is in no way representative of the general populace?

And if you think it is, you're just as stupid as those espousing such hateful bullshit.

I'm pretty sure she was being sarcastic.

The English like to do that, you know.

Sometimes people don't understand our sarcasm
Although (this is most likely a problem where I live because I live in a city with the most diverse ethnic groups) the people who loudly celebrate St. Georges day will usually escalate into "...and The Sun said these bloody foreigners are ordering us to take down our flags because it offends them!! Obviously everything in the news is true so they can fuck off!"

Again, probably a much bigger problem in my city. It gets really tense because it's so diverse (Race riots happened in 2001) so I'm just too lazy/can't be bothered hearing the ignorant and stupid comments off people in this city to celebrate it ;_;

See, it's really hard to tell when you're being sarcastic and when you're making a point using hyperbole. In Midnight Llamaman's defence, it does look like you think the people who celebrate St. George's Day do so as a nationalistic protest against immigrants.

I am very well versed in sarcasm and you have me confused too.

Really?

I wasn't confused.

Must be because you're a Londoner.

Nobody like those wankers ;D

 

[Albino Boo]

It is amazing how many people at work today, who are English members of the British armed forces, don't know it is St Georges day... Hell... I didn't know until I saw the Google homepage... Then again, I don't see myself as English, due to the fact I am most certainly British!

There is a funny fact about them immigrants too... for the UK citizenship test there are questions on the Patron Saint days. For the life of me, as a proud Brit who has signed up the fact I will give my life for my country, I can't tell you when the Patron Saint days are... Hell, I don't even know the month for David's and Andrew's!
So there you have it... Immigrants know more about the country than we do... they just struggle at the fundimentals of being British...

And to play us out, a song about those fundimentals from the incredible Professor Elemental!

I'll see your Professor Elemental and raise you Mr B


If you dis Mr B I will have to put on my fighting trousers.

 

[EeveeElectro]

OYAY. TODAY I CAN SNEAK A BIT OF RACISM I USUALLY WOULDN'T GET AWAY WITH WHILST I'M CELEBRATING.

"I'm gonna celebrate St. Georges Day and if you bloody Indians don't like it then GO BACK TO POLAND!"

I hope you realise anyone that pegs on that sort of sentiment to celebrating St Georges Day is in no way representative of the general populace?

And if you think it is, you're just as stupid as those espousing such hateful bullshit.

I'm pretty sure she was being sarcastic.

The English like to do that, you know.

Sometimes people don't understand our sarcasm
Although (this is most likely a problem where I live because I live in a city with the most diverse ethnic groups) the people who loudly celebrate St. Georges day will usually escalate into "...and The Sun said these bloody foreigners are ordering us to take down our flags because it offends them!! Obviously everything in the news is true so they can fuck off!"

Again, probably a much bigger problem in my city. It gets really tense because it's so diverse (Race riots happened in 2001) so I'm just too lazy/can't be bothered hearing the ignorant and stupid comments off people in this city to celebrate it ;_;

See, it's really hard to tell when you're being sarcastic and when you're making a point using hyperbole. In Midnight Llamaman's defence, it does look like you think the people who celebrate St. George's Day do so as a nationalistic protest against immigrants.

I am very well versed in sarcasm and you have me confused too.

Whoopsy. Bad wording on my part. Probably a bit of hyperbolic too XD I forget people on here are from all over sometimes. I feel slightly better about it because looking on the "Happy St Georges Day" trend on Twitter and everyone is being happy and good and patriotic which is good.

However, this morning a lady I work with posted some picture on Facebook about today and underneath were a stream of the same bullshit comments from gullible people (from where I live) who read some made up chainmail that people in my city are being advised against hanging up English flags because it could upset the minority.
Basically my city has a lot of stupid people in it and it makes me nervous about talking to people about it in case they go off on one. This city really needs to get it's shit together ;_; the rest of the country seems to be great when it comes to St Georges Day, I'd feel much better if I lived elsewhere which I probably will be soon.

Edit: I has half being sarcastic and taking the piss out of my city and half making a point of how crappy this place can be ;_; probably didn't translate well *slaps wrist* Anyway, off to work I gooooo.

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

I'll see your Professor Elemental and raise you Mr B


If you dis Mr B I will have to put on my fighting trousers.

Sir, oh Sir, oh Sir...

'Raising' with Mr B? The only thing you have raised there is the dress sense... and the facial hair level... and, well, to be honest, I had already covered that part myself!

Whilst I agree that Mr B has a better understanding of traditional chap, The Prof has a much better grasp of a catchy tune, better lyrics, and has all the fun of steam-punk!

 

[Stasisesque]

OYAY. TODAY I CAN SNEAK A BIT OF RACISM I USUALLY WOULDN'T GET AWAY WITH WHILST I'M CELEBRATING.

"I'm gonna celebrate St. Georges Day and if you bloody Indians don't like it then GO BACK TO POLAND!"

I hope you realise anyone that pegs on that sort of sentiment to celebrating St Georges Day is in no way representative of the general populace?

And if you think it is, you're just as stupid as those espousing such hateful bullshit.

I'm pretty sure she was being sarcastic.

The English like to do that, you know.

Sometimes people don't understand our sarcasm
Although (this is most likely a problem where I live because I live in a city with the most diverse ethnic groups) the people who loudly celebrate St. Georges day will usually escalate into "...and The Sun said these bloody foreigners are ordering us to take down our flags because it offends them!! Obviously everything in the news is true so they can fuck off!"

Again, probably a much bigger problem in my city. It gets really tense because it's so diverse (Race riots happened in 2001) so I'm just too lazy/can't be bothered hearing the ignorant and stupid comments off people in this city to celebrate it ;_;

See, it's really hard to tell when you're being sarcastic and when you're making a point using hyperbole. In Midnight Llamaman's defence, it does look like you think the people who celebrate St. George's Day do so as a nationalistic protest against immigrants.

I am very well versed in sarcasm and you have me confused too.

Whoopsy. Bad wording on my part. Probably a bit of hyperbolic too XD I forget people on here are from all over sometimes. I feel slightly better about it because looking on the "Happy St Georges Day" trend on Twitter and everyone is being happy and good and patriotic which is good.

However, this morning a lady I work with posted some picture on Facebook about today and underneath were a stream of the same bullshit comments from gullible people (from where I live) who read some made up chainmail that people in my city are being advised against hanging up English flags because it could upset the minority.
Basically my city has a lot of stupid people in it and it makes me nervous about talking to people about it in case they go off on one. This city really needs to get it's shit together ;_; the rest of the country seems to be great when it comes to St Georges Day, I'd feel much better if I lived elsewhere which I probably will be soon.

I don't suppose you live in or near Bradford do you? There, Luton and parts of Nottingham seem to have the worst of it when it comes to patron saint days or religious festivals. We're lucky in London, there are simply too many people and too many cultures to bother getting worked up about differences and thus it gives everyone a good chance to get to know the people first, the culture second and most of all to respect one another.

I know people from Luton and I dated a guy from Bradford once and both of those city/towns sound like there's segregation of racial groups - and it's that that breeds the hatred and the ignorance.

 

[Wadders]

I'm seeing a lot more people on my Facebook wishing everyone on there a "Happy St. George's Day" than I have done in previous years.
I'm guessing this is down to right wingers making a bigger deal out of it this year for some reason? Thus more people are hearing about it and realising that it's actually a thing?

If its part of a celebration of patriotism, then all well and good. Nothing wrong with a nice bit of patriotism. There is nothing wrong with being fond of where you're from and feeling a bit of national pride, but it shouldn't come at the expense of paranoia and not-so-thinly-veiled racism.

As with everything, its just the nut-jobs who get on the news and TV. The vast majority of normal people happily going about being reasonably proud Englishmen and women are nowt like that.

And to play us out, a song about those fundimentals from the incredible Professor Elemental!

That... is fucking fantastic.

Apart from the bit about black pudding. That stuff is glorious, and I will fight anyone who disagrees

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

I don't suppose you live in or near Bradford do you? There, Luton and parts of Nottingham seem to have the worst of it when it comes to patron saint days or religious festivals. We're lucky in London, there are simply too many people and too many cultures to bother getting worked up about differences and thus it gives everyone a good chance to get to know the people first, the culture second and most of all to respect one another.

I know people from Luton and I dated a guy from Bradford once and both of those city/towns sound like there's segregation of racial groups - and it's that that breeds the hatred and the ignorance.

That's true... Although it is those areas specifically because of the greater numbers of racial groups who are living in sub-communities and closing themselves off almost in some areas. You see the same in Bristol too... It seems to be areas in which there are larger populations of immigrants from one source. (The source country doesn't matter, just that there is a large community of them.)

You don't see anywhere near as much racial discrimination in areas like the South West... where there is surprisingly a large right wing sentiment! Growing up in a farmer town in Wiltshire there was 1/280 kids in my year who was black. Which was an accurate representation of the distribution of minorities in our area. We also had a large number of skinhead rightwing yobs in our year too, but there was no racial discrimination what so ever from those guys to Bhavnaf. In fact, as memory serves, they actually got on quite well! What the yobs didn't like though were the gypsy camps that found there way to our communities from time to time... bringing with them crime/theft and how they didn't contribute anything to the community, they just ruined another field before they were moved on.

I don't know. I am just stating fact from memory. It was not something that ever bothered me... in fact, I had never really heard of racism until I got a bit older, and now I see it all the time! But it does appear to be a big issue in some areas FAR more than others!

London is not exempt though... there are some areas in London I am severely reccomended not to go if I was in uniform, unless I have a change of clothing (Brixton comes to mind).

 

[Andy Shandy]

Ha, as a proud Scot, I care not for your silly littlee Saint!

The one true Saint is Saint Andrew, who is of course, me

This sainthood was of course righteously given to me by our one true god, Jim Sterling.

Thank Jim for Jim.

 

[kurupt87]

You won't see a sea of Saint George's flags waving in London, and you won't hear any cries of 'England, FUCK YEAH!'/

Apart from all that flag waving and "England, FUCK YEAH!" they did in Trafalgar Square on Saturday... and in fact, every year in Trafalgar Square either on St. George's Day or the weekend preceding it.

Also, The Globe puts on events as it is also Shakespeare's birthday and there's often a lot of flags there.

Woah there fella... slow it down a peg! That would imply that London is, in any way shape or form, like the rest of Britian!? What they do in the capital, staaays in the capital...

Try repeating Sat night in Birmingham... without getting lynched!

Not... not really. I was responding only to the statement about London as it was quite largely false. I honestly don't know what the rest of the country does for St. George's Day or in fact for most celebratory events. I know that "white British" are supposedly a minority in London* and yet the St. George's Day Feast continues on regardless, so in the sense of the majority of the English being scared of being seen as racist? To me, that's a ludicrous idea, but then I am a Londoner and we are basically perfect.

*I have absolutely no proof of this it is literally all hearsay, usually being spouted at me by people who are not from London.

White English made up something like 47% of the population of London according to the latest census.

Now, they are still the majority group because the remaining 53% is split between all the other ethnic groups. Not all of which are first generation immigrants, some of those would be Black English, Asian English etc; so born and raised in England.

Edit: OT -> Big whoop?

 

[Stasisesque]

You won't see a sea of Saint George's flags waving in London, and you won't hear any cries of 'England, FUCK YEAH!'/

Apart from all that flag waving and "England, FUCK YEAH!" they did in Trafalgar Square on Saturday... and in fact, every year in Trafalgar Square either on St. George's Day or the weekend preceding it.

Also, The Globe puts on events as it is also Shakespeare's birthday and there's often a lot of flags there.

Woah there fella... slow it down a peg! That would imply that London is, in any way shape or form, like the rest of Britian!? What they do in the capital, staaays in the capital...

Try repeating Sat night in Birmingham... without getting lynched!

Not... not really. I was responding only to the statement about London as it was quite largely false. I honestly don't know what the rest of the country does for St. George's Day or in fact for most celebratory events. I know that "white British" are supposedly a minority in London* and yet the St. George's Day Feast continues on regardless, so in the sense of the majority of the English being scared of being seen as racist? To me, that's a ludicrous idea, but then I am a Londoner and we are basically perfect.

*I have absolutely no proof of this it is literally all hearsay, usually being spouted at me by people who are not from London.

White English made up something like 47% of the population of London according to the latest census.

Now, they are still the majority group because the remaining 53% is split between all the other ethnic groups. Not all of which are first generation immigrants, some of those would be Black English, Asian English etc; so born and raised in England.

Edit: OT -> Big whoop?

Yes that was the point I was making. It's a bullshit claim made by a small group of people, and still things like big St. George's Day festivals take place thus rendering their point, whatever that is I have never been able to work out, moot.

 

[Albino Boo]

Sir, oh Sir, oh Sir...

'Raising' with Mr B? The only thing you have raised there is the dress sense... and the facial hair level... and, well, to be honest, I had already covered that part myself!

Whilst I agree that Mr B has a better understanding of traditional chap, The Prof has a much better grasp of a catchy tune, better lyrics, and has all the fun of steam-punk!

To quote the doyenne of chaps, Mr B himself, On you I whiff the foul stench of fancy dress. Mr B is an all round chap and the "gentleman" known as Professor Elemental is just playing acting. What else did I expect from the RAF, all bounders cads and Jaguar drivers. It is not without reason that Terry Thomas had a handlebar mustache.

 

[The Artificially Prolonged]

It's St. George's day? Oh so that's why that one person in work had a plastic flag on their desk today. Anyway back to doing whatever I was doing...

 

[Bug MuIdoon]

I grew up in a small town in the Midlands. It's also the home of many of the higher ranking EDL (English Defence League) members and National Front, nearly everyone here votes BNP too. I've seen faux-clan marches of a few hundred white hooded people clomp through the streets. I've seen Pakistani family ran shops burnt to the ground. One of Europe's 'biggest' right wing Nazi punk band's are from here, and are in fact playing in a small pub, about 5 minutes walk from where I'm typing, in a few hours, singing wonderful songs such as: 88 Niggers must hang, Hitler's Right! and Keep England Pure.
My town has been featured on numerous Channel 4 documentaries. The worst thing is, most of the people living here are proud of all this.

St Patrick's day is a hell hole here, All the scum show their faces and I fucking hate it.

 

[Gabanuka]

Christ, I'm English and I didn't even realize. I just thought it was Shakespeare's birth/death day.

Both my Drama and English tutor mentioned it, not a single mention of Ol' Georgie.

 

[weirdsoup]

There are some English people who are very nationalistic indeed. You can usually tell who they are when they open a conversation with "I read in the Daily Mail..."

And that's one of the main reasons people don't like to express nationalism. They don't want to get lumped in with the Daily Mail "Immigrants are stealing jobs and living off benefits and lowering our house prices" lot. National pride has in many cases been hijacked by the right wing in England.

 

[The Funslinger]

It is amazing how many people at work today, who are English members of the British armed forces, don't know it is St Georges day... Hell... I didn't know until I saw the Google homepage... Then again, I don't see myself as English, due to the fact I am most certainly British!

There is a funny fact about them immigrants too... for the UK citizenship test there are questions on the Patron Saint days. For the life of me, as a proud Brit who has signed up the fact I will give my life for my country, I can't tell you when the Patron Saint days are... Hell, I don't even know the month for David's and Andrew's!
So there you have it... Immigrants know more about the country than we do... they just struggle at the fundimentals of being British...

And to play us out, a song about those fundimentals from the incredible Professor Elemental!

I've never seen that before, so take it as a hallmark of how British I am that I knew it was coming when he apologised about Piers Morgan.