For fun go into a place with Star Citizens fans and say it might be the next No Mans Sky.
Bathe in those flames.
Bathe in those flames.
Star Citizen has the most Toxic fanboy based community I have ever seen.
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Is there even anyone else to pair her with? I mean...we've got:Silentpony said:
- female sheep
- fat tiger
- a lion
- Idris Elba playing a fucking water buffalo
No-one available is even the right size. And that's not getting into the real [http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-dark-but-sexy-truth-behind-zootopias-imminent-demise/] reason Nick and Judy would probably hook up.
To be fair: Roberts has a lot more experience with games like these than Hello Games or Sean Murray. Murray and Hello Games had only done some small indie games before so they were way above their heads with No Man's Sky. Anyone with some brains and understanding of modern gaming industry could've seen that No Man's Sky won't live up to the hype.MerlinCross said:
However I'm not sold on Star Citizen either. It's been a long time since Roberts has done anything worthwhile and Star Citizen is very ambitious. It seems that every time Roberts opens his mouth, they're adding something more to the game. This is something that happens in game development a lot, devs get all these grazy ideas of things they want to add in a game. That's why studios have producers who keep devs in check.
When I listen to Roberts I get some Molyneux flashbacks. Someone who rides on successes of his past to try to do something overly ambitious. Usually these projects end up with disappointment.
Hahaha, holy hell. I wondered where you'd gotten to.
I will say simply that a lot of the reason you were seen as a troll was that your ramming often had the subtext of intentionally exploiting systems to ruin the enjoyment of the game for others - which others such as Shankerz on the PvP and org side of things also got banned for planning an equivalent of, so it wasn't all one sided. That said god I miss the forums in the old days where we had our characters, but everyone at least had a valid point behind their arguments [Usually, I'm sure you remember the few who didn't >.>].
These days? Yeah, its become a toxic hellhole of yes men. Every idea is a great one, CIG is going to end world hunger, and things are utterly perfect. Sure, there's still a few reasonable people around, but its gone downhill.
I will say simply that a lot of the reason you were seen as a troll was that your ramming often had the subtext of intentionally exploiting systems to ruin the enjoyment of the game for others - which others such as Shankerz on the PvP and org side of things also got banned for planning an equivalent of, so it wasn't all one sided. That said god I miss the forums in the old days where we had our characters, but everyone at least had a valid point behind their arguments [Usually, I'm sure you remember the few who didn't >.>].
These days? Yeah, its become a toxic hellhole of yes men. Every idea is a great one, CIG is going to end world hunger, and things are utterly perfect. Sure, there's still a few reasonable people around, but its gone downhill.
Oh man, you don't know the guys I play Magic with. Well, I don't play with them; I don't play at all. They're the reason I don't play! But they're my friends, or at least friends of my friends, so I still have to endure their anecdotal moaning from time to time.Samtemdo8 said:
Every fandom has douchebags, it's like a law of physics.
You were an active member on the RSI forums? I remember I got lots of posts for a "Gaius Baltar for president" themed thread. I also remembered Shankerz. His style of trolling was pretty obvious and Toxic, mine tends to be light-hearted and funny. I remember him getting banned before I did. Then that fat frak of a person Ben Lesnick took over for community management and actually tried to threaten the whole player base with bans if they don't "behave" on their show that came on every Friday.Joccaren said:
Personally I think some trolling should be allowed as long it's for LuLz and not hurting people's feelings. My whole thing about ramming other ships was because I find dogfighting tedious and annoying. Besides in PVP doesn't everyone diminish other people's fun just by killing them? In essence I also think that PVP makes everyone a little bit of greifer just by playing in some respects.
I'm too much of an outsider to Star Citzen to know why ramming would make PVP less enjoyable, but PVP should be fun for both parties, at least as much as it possibly can be. The real question regarding changes to PVP is, how fun is it? Are the steps required to become a PVP powerhouse fun? Are the battles themselves still fun? Overall, if winning is the only thing that's gratifying about preparing for and engaging in PVP, then it could probably use some work, unless the players themselves are the sort who can only have fun by winning. I've gotten crushed several times playing Dark Souls 1, 2, and 3 and still finished thinking "Good fight sir. That was fun" thanks to the fun of matching wits with them.GaiusBaltar said:
Every once in a while a game comes along that I just want to fail in every way. Star Citizen is that game. So many idiots worshiping it even though they haven't played a single second of it, AND THEY EVEN PAY MONEY TO THE DEVS!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!? WHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTT?!?!?!?
The epic failure of No Man's Sky definitely made me snicker, but I wasn't really invested in hating No Man's Sky.
Star Citizen's release is gonna have me falling out of my seat laughing.
People are so stupid.
The epic failure of No Man's Sky definitely made me snicker, but I wasn't really invested in hating No Man's Sky.
Star Citizen's release is gonna have me falling out of my seat laughing.
People are so stupid.
Indeed. Even though I have some cash invested into it (only about $200) I will probably play when version 3.0 comes out and probably get flamed in their chats for who I am but there is some fun in watching a game burn, I admit. Especially one chalk full of elitist fanboys who literally make projects to build flight chairs with two joysticks and invest 20k dollars into a game not out yet. This gonna be good. It will be fun watching the game crash and burn.Cold Shiny said:
I'm personally of the opinion that people who pre-order have no right to complain if/when they are disappointed(If it turned out to be what they wanted, good on them). They banked on a promise and that's what they got: A promise. The ultra-fanboys of the SC community(you know which ones I mean) is just a particularly bad case of the follys of pre-ordering.Cold Shiny said:
I'd say generally all these games that seem to unfocus and promise that you can do everything tend to fall flat on their face.Lykosia said:
NMS does have most of the gameplay they promised, but its all average at best. GTA has all these various systems, but most of them are awful. Bethesdas crafting and/or building mechanics just seem to detract from sharpening up the ARPG play. Assassin's Creed basically went off the rails adding everything under the sun, from tower defense games, to boats, to city management, to a trade economy simulation game while progressively losing all sense of its original gameplay. Even some games that only add vehicles to their basic gameplay (Arkham Knight, Mad Max, RAGE) come off worse for it.
I'm sure with enough time/money, you probably could develop this "Supergame", if you got lucky and had the right minds behind each component. But even then, it'll be a bloated monster for hard drive space and resource requirements. Along with people backlashing over a potentially disappointing game, I"m wondering how many will backlash just because it comes out with ludicrous system requirements that only 3% of gamers can pull off.
Wait, Zootopia fans are problematic? Seriously?Saelune said:
Incredulity aside, Star Citizen is shaping up to be... interesting. I'm one of the outliers who managed to ignore the No Man's Sky hype train and who enjoys the game for what it is; but I have a hard time imagining that anyone will come out of Chris Roberts' vanity project unscathed.
I put this thread in the heart of Star Citizen territory (that i still have access to) on reddit too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/50owgt/star_citizen_has_the_most_toxic_fanboy_based/
-100 karma in less than 30 mins! LOL
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/50owgt/star_citizen_has_the_most_toxic_fanboy_based/
-100 karma in less than 30 mins! LOL
Sounds more like it is more a hyper loyal fanbase. I would say fanbases there are simultaneously hyper loyal and hyper critical are the most toxic ones. It is a weird contradiction where the game is never good enough, but any outside critique of the game is a high crime. Fortunately, only seen this oddity on select game forums. Doesn't seem to endure outside that.
If I was loony enough to drop hundreds to thousands for the permanent ownership of a virtual ship for a game that will allegedly last decades, I too will go into denial and be very defensive. Need what little hope that still exists that the game will come out and fulfill all promises.
But at the end of the day, is there really a need to poke the hornet's nest?
But at the end of the day, is there really a need to poke the hornet's nest?
The reason for this is simple, money. That's the driving factor in any community that has a fan base that has spent large sums of cash. The most obvious are of course console fan boys, pc master race, any community that has decide to spend a large sum of their own money on a certain product of choice will always have troubling listening to people who will then criticize it. Telling them that something is wrong, they have made a bad choice, they spent large sums of money on this and you're basically telling them they are stupid for making that choice and spending that cash.
Now is a certain light you can justify that, computers, consoles the tech costs a lot of money for good reasons but now imagine that instead of spending that money on some high tech gear they had instead spent that money on a game... fucking early access game as well.
The result is a fanbase that will have a rabid level of fanboyism that goes well beyond anything you would see in other fanboys, the truly ironic thing being that in this case the faults, the issues, the comment you are making that they are stupid for spending money on this particular product is actually justifiable because spending upwards of ?1,000 on a fucking early access game is stupid.
Hello, Star Citizen backer and fan here. I don't take too much note of who's who in the community, so I may or may not have read some of your posts. However your claims about the community being especially toxic seem to be... a bit exaggerated. In my experience they seem to be fairly average as far as game communities go, with your rational, intelligent posters contrasted by the raging, closed-minded fanboys.
What people seem to forget is that this game and community in general has come under far heavier fire then almost any project ever seen before, with accusations of it being a scam, a ripoff, a pipe dream, etc. PR and corporate executives are used to these kinds of comments and can refute them calmly. However, your average gamer is not used to this kind of intense scrutiny which this type of ambitious project will (rightly) attract. It's only natural they'd get flustered or quickly riled in their defense of this project that they've put so much investment into, both monetarily and emotionally.
Personally, I'm just keeping up with the development of the game, reading interesting posts, and calmly awaiting what I hope to be an excellent space sim down the road.
Hope this may have clarified some things for you all, cheers.
What people seem to forget is that this game and community in general has come under far heavier fire then almost any project ever seen before, with accusations of it being a scam, a ripoff, a pipe dream, etc. PR and corporate executives are used to these kinds of comments and can refute them calmly. However, your average gamer is not used to this kind of intense scrutiny which this type of ambitious project will (rightly) attract. It's only natural they'd get flustered or quickly riled in their defense of this project that they've put so much investment into, both monetarily and emotionally.
Personally, I'm just keeping up with the development of the game, reading interesting posts, and calmly awaiting what I hope to be an excellent space sim down the road.
Hope this may have clarified some things for you all, cheers.