Star Citizen has the most Toxic fanboy based community I have ever seen.

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Joccaren

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GaiusBaltar said:
You were an active member on the RSI forums? I remember I got lots of posts for a "Gaius Baltar for president" themed thread. I also remembered Shankerz. His style of trolling was pretty obvious and Toxic, mine tends to be light-hearted and funny. I remember him getting banned before I did. Then that fat frak of a person Ben Lesnick took over for community management and actually tried to threaten the whole player base with bans if they don't "behave" on their show that came on every Friday.
Personally I think some trolling should be allowed as long it's for LuLz and not hurting people's feelings. My whole thing about ramming other ships was because I find dogfighting tedious and annoying. Besides in PVP doesn't everyone diminish other people's fun just by killing them? In essence I also think that PVP makes everyone a little bit of greifer just by playing in some respects.
Still occasionally am. Always tried to stay in a moderate position though, so outside of a few people who misread things I said, or that I've had economics discussions with, I don't think many people would know me by name =P

As for ramming and PvP, it has to do with the intent of the game. If I ran into CoD with a guaranteed kill but I die too and ran around using it all the time, because I didn't like shooting people and thought it was boring, people would be upset too. If I went into Starcraft and just worker rushed and dropped my command centre next to theirs, the same thing would happen. The intent and spirit of the game is to actually have a dogfight, as part of its core gameplay [Only part, not the entirety], and so methods to just cheese and avoid that while damaging those who do enjoy that, where at times it got out of hand with others wanting to take it so far as to try and make piracy and such just infeasible in game, are received negatively, as you don't want to play the game [Which was PvA from the start] that the devs were making and enjoy it with everyone else, but you want to take control of the game and play it only the way you want, while preventing others from playing in ways the game was intended for them to play in.

And yeah, some PvP players espoused those views about making 'carebears' unable to play the game, like Shankerz. They were also banned =P

Either way, I'm pretty similar to you at this point in attachment to the project. I drop in occasionally to have a look, sometimes have a discussion on the rare occasion there's something interesting to discuss, and basically probably won't actually play again until 3.0, and even then I'm going to mostly just wait until final release at this point. Too much talk, and the community laps it all up. When there's more to do I'll be more interested.
 

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I remember seeing a thread on the SC subreddit where someone was bemoaning that they would "only" be able to contribute $100 "this month" indicating this was reoccurring behavior. The responses mostly consisted of telling them it was OK and to just "give as you can".
I won't call Star Citizen the most toxic fandom because it isn't a fandom, its a fucking cult and these people are genuinely creepy.

At this rate the fist sucker to give the the game a bad review is going to be found crucified upside down and flayed on Chris Robberts' doorstep.
 

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Hype breeds idiocy. The form of idiocy depends on the game though. NMS bred the sort of Undertale-like rabid people who would send death threats and assume the game is non-stop action for some reason. SC, on the other hand has cocooned itself in a nice little echo chamber turning its fanbase into the Fox News of gaming.

ED and Eve fans just keep doing what they do in a relatively hypeless environment. Sure there will always be jerks present in any group but conflict stays within the game spheres and the news that shows up for those games is always "something neat happened"

But really, hype is the worst thing that can happen to a game community outside of metrics obsession (the Gearscore era of WoW, XVM in World of Tanks)
 

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You sound far more toxic.

"They banned me how shit mind controlled drones are they xD?????? OMG REDDIT DOWNVOTED ME HARD...XDDD".

It's so fucking cringe I figuratively can't even.

Haven't pledged, and don't care about SC. Just my thoughts on your posts after reading them.
 

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GaiusBaltar said:
I put this thread in the heart of Star Citizen territory (that i still have access to) on reddit too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/50owgt/star_citizen_has_the_most_toxic_fanboy_based/
-100 karma in less than 30 mins! LOL
That's the case for almost all subreddits though... You went to the sub for fans of the game and called them toxic. Do this on any sub and you'll have the same response. This doesn't prove a point. If anything, it just shows off the Reddit hivemind in the least surprising way possible.

Edit: and just to make things clear, I fully anticipate Star Citizen to be the most colossal failure in gaming history. However, your attitude comes off as rather antagonistic, so I'm mostly saying that while you could have had a point, you've kind of gone and sabotaged it by somewhat giving credence to the accusations the community had against you.

Edit 2: ya.... I really don't see what you're talking about. Their community honestly seems better than most. I don't agree with their hype, but I really don't believe that this all started because you made some harmless suggestions. This is you seeking validation for antagonizing a group of people.
 

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MCerberus said:
But really, hype is the worst thing that can happen to a game community outside of metrics obsession (the Gearscore era of WoW, XVM in World of Tanks)
OMFG! Off-topic story time! I will honestly never forget the one time that my guild merged with another because the leaders were friends, and we wanted to start 25 man progressions. We went to start our first Ice Crown Citadel 25-man run, and immediately after the first round of adds, the new GM checked everyone's gearscore then without warning tossed me from the raid group. I asked wtf on guild chat; his response was that my gearscore was 1 point below what he had deemed the minimum. It was so damn stupid. We ended up splitting the guilds again later because of more nonsense like that.
 

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Like Fred, I fully expect Star Citizen to be a colossal failure. They've overpromised, spread themselves thin, and I have doubts about their ability to plan for technology that far in advance, let alone the ability of the game to maintain a playerbase. And I find their sales model, where people have spent ridiculous amounts on it pretty gross, and I think the people spending thousands genuinely need some help, and have adopted almost a cultist mentality, and that they should not honour those purchases, they should refund them. It shouldn't even be possible. And I've gotten into a disagreement or two with Star Citizen fans because of that. I'm sure it'll have the same problem most overbudget multiplayer titles have, where they need a player base, which rapidly evaporates at launch leaving the game a dead husk.
Id think it will be okay, just okay. but people will still be mad because it will never live up to what they expected. It will probably be a smaller scale No Mans Sky meltdown on release.
 

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renegade7 said:
Is Star Citizen honestly still a thing? Has it even been updated in the last 2 years?
Yes, it just got updated last week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVK8syx-Y-w
 

BarryMcCociner

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When someone disagrees with you, you seem to immediately dismiss them as a toxic fanboy.

After reading your posts here and on reddit, I even as someone who despises the overuse of the word "elitist" would make no hesitation in in applying it to your behavior.
 

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MCerberus said:
But really, hype is the worst thing that can happen to a game community outside of metrics obsession (the Gearscore era of WoW, XVM in World of Tanks)
I was coming here to nominate World of Tanks for the worst community, I quit playing after everyone so stat obsessed they forgot how to have fun. Now I stick to World of Warships, a game with a great community where the in battle chat can sometimes end up being more fun than the actual game.

As for Star Citizen, I pity any site that gives it less than a perfect score. I mean even the Escapist suffered after No Man's Sky, not long after Yahtzee posted his Zero Punctuation episode about it it went down.
 

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All I can say is.

Dude we just wanted a modernized version of Wing Commander and X-Wing/TiE Figher games with awesome graphics and properly streamlined controls and interfaces.

NOT SECOND LIFE 2: IN SPACE!!!
 

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GaiusBaltar said:
Has anyone encountered a community centered around a game so Toxic that it makes you wonder if you could ever get fair treatment? And with that give you pause about even playing the game?
Hi Gaius. Since i know you usually post on the Elite Dangerous forums, i can tell you that if you want to find toxic users, you should look there first. Specifically the current Star Citizen thread in the Elite Dangerous forums:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/259596-The-Star-Citizen-Thread-v5

There you will see plenty of Star Citizen hating trolls, to the point that the thread contains absolutely no serious discussion about Star Citizen, but only continuous trolling, hating and trying to spread bullsh*t about Star Citizen and Chris Roberts. The moment any user tries to seriously discuss about the game, plenty of trolls attack him, baiting him into their trolling spiral. They seem to be the same 5-10 troll users, but their posting is daily and continuous, and neither of them is getting banned. Derek Smart himself has posted in that thread, too.

Besides that, the moment someone tries to open a new Star Citizen thread for serious discussion, it gets closed by the moderators there, and the user is prompted to use the "main" SC thread, which as you know, is full of trolls which don't let anyone have a normal discussion.

So as you can see, all communities have their share of toxic users. Fortunately for the ED community, it seems that all its trolls are concentrated into the SC thread, and all other sections of their forums (especially the Exploration section) are full of nice and helpful people.

For the record, i play both Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen, and i like both games.
 

FalloutJack

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Some of you may recall that the No Mutants Allowed community makes all normal Fallout fans look incredibly bad. I spit on them. From hell's heart, I stabbeth them. For great justice, I Falcon Punch them. They are cancer and I am the radiation cure. Nuka-Colaaa!