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CBS released a trailer for the upcoming Star Trek show, now revealed to be called Star Trek: Discovery.

It's also been confirmed via Twitter that the show is set in the Prime timeline:
https://twitter.com/adambvary/status/756981563699503104

My initial reaction was mixed. The ship is clearly based on <a href=https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--FUyEiLpU--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18lsjl7zu3nqljpg.jpg>old Ralph McQuarrie concept art, but a part of me felt like it didn't "feel" like a Federation ship. The more I look at it however, the more I find myself warming up to the design. After all, there have been <a href=http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Oberth_class>far more unorthodox designs that made it into canon. I will say this though; maybe it's the lighting, but I'm not a fan of the brown coloring. It clashes with the blue-ish gray hues of most Federation vessels, and it's just plain ugly to look at. Also, the trailer's "generic buildup" music was a poor fit, in my opinion. I would have preferred something more along the lines of the Enterprise's grand reveal in Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

As an aside, someone in the comments pointed out that the series will have the unfortunate acronym of "STD." They may have wanted to go with something different (Unless the captain goes all Kirk on Orion females).
 

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Just off the cuff...

-The impulse drives appear to be blue
-The deflector dish is curiously small
-The saucer section is... weirdly small
-The triangular engineering section makes the thing seem... almost Klingon to me. Like someone sat on a Bird of Prey for too long. The color probably doesn't help either
-Some weird sound effects going on (Hopefully placeholders)
-I really hope this is closer to the TOS era then the TNG era, because this thing just looks ancient
-What shipyard is that? Looks kind of secretish

Overall... I don't hate it. I don't like it either, though.

EDIT: Also, why is the Starfleet crest all fucked up? Looks like someone dragged it through gravel.
 

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AccursedTheory said:
-I really hope this is closer to the TOS era then the TNG era, because this thing just looks ancient
The ship seems to be launching, probably for its first mission, and it's registry is NCC-1031. I think it's safe to assume this takes place in the middle of the gap between Enterprise and TOS, and will likely have members of Enterprise make cameos or at least get mentioned.

Personally, I was worried about quite a few things, but the name alone has given me assurances, as has the fact it's been confirmed for being in the Prime timeline (people can mention that it's pre-Kelvin incident, but Simon Pegg has confirmed the Abramsverse is an entirely new timeline that was formed from that incident, with changes being both forwards and backwards in time, which explains the differences the point of divergence doesn't explain).

Personally looking forward to this, hoping Netflix Canada gets it and if they don't then I guess I'll be trying out CraveTV (which is the place it's 100% ending up if Netflix Canada doesn't get it)
 

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Zontar said:
Personally, I was worried about quite a few things, but the name alone has given me assurances, as has the fact it's been confirmed for being in the Prime timeline (people can mention that it's pre-Kelvin incident, but Simon Pegg has confirmed the Abramsverse is an entirely new timeline that was formed from that incident, with changes being both forwards and backwards in time, which explains the differences the point of divergence doesn't explain).
I didn't realize Star Trek was using DC's 'Punch Time Hard Enough And Everything Forever, Forwards and Backwards, Is Fucked Up' time travel logic. Explains things.
 

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I just realized something while showing this to a friend.

Does the silhouette look familiar to anyone else? Like something from another 'Star' series maybe? Or am I crazy?




 
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Honestly, that is an ugly ship. Starfleet design has always been a bit odd looking, unintuitive in a way, but since they are ships designed entirely for space flight and not atmospheric maneuvers, they don't have to look aerodynamic. They have always had a distinct and flowing design that at least looks unified.

This ship is clunky and uninspired. It's a triangle with a circle on one point and two rectangles stuck on the other angles. It's the basic shape of a Starfleet ship, as drawn in crayon by a four year old.

Other than that, I am enormously relieved to hear that the show is set in the main timeline, aka the real timeline.
 

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Looks at thread...

...well, this will be fun. Now I get to listen to people bitching about the new TV series as well as the film series.
AccursedTheory said:
I just realized something while showing this to a friend.

Does the silhouette look familiar to anyone else? Like something from another 'Star' series maybe? Or am I crazy?




Star Trek is heading back to TV, and Stargate is heading back to film.

Coincidence?!

Neverhoodian said:
As an aside, someone in the comments pointed out that the series will have the unfortunate acronym of "STD." They may have wanted to go with something different (Unless the captain goes all Kirk on Orion females).
Either way, he's going boldly where no man has gone before - the constellation of Orion, before entering the wormhole that leads to new and wonderful lifeforms.
 

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Hawki said:
Looks at thread...

...well, this will be fun. Now I get to listen to people bitching about the new TV series as well as the film series.
To be fair, there's one very, very good reason to ***** about this show - It's locked behind a channel specific subscription service (Inside the US).

AccursedTheory said:
I just realized something while showing this to a friend.

Does the silhouette look familiar to anyone else? Like something from another 'Star' series maybe? Or am I crazy?





Star Trek is heading back to TV, and Stargate is heading back to film.

Coincidence?!
So I'm not crazy?

I knew it!
 

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The ship looks like a D7 Klingon cruiser reverse enginered into a standard Star Fleet design. The registry number is very low.

Perhaps it's set during the hot war between the Federation and the Klingon Empire that happened after the Enterprise era but before TOS.

Okay. I can be down for that.

I'll wait till more details are revealed
 

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I'm getting a very Minmatar vibe here. I shouldn't be getting a Minmatar vibe from a Federation ship. I don't know how I feel about this.
AccursedTheory said:
I didn't realize Star Trek was using DC's 'Punch Time Hard Enough And Everything Forever, Forwards and Backwards, Is Fucked Up' time travel logic. Explains things.
I think the question is, is any of this surprising? Considering the amount of times they've been fucking with time and the reset button, it's a miracle it didn't happen before.
Actually I think it has happened at least once before but I haven't rewatched Trek in bulk for years.
 

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I don't mind the design of the new ship. It seems angular rather than the more rounded shapes we're used to seeing Starfleet use, but I don't mind the change.

If it is set somewhere between Enterprise and TOS, I wonder what uniform are they going to wear? Would they go with the TOS era uniforms or something new? Starfleet seems to make significant changes to their uniforms rather regularly so it wouldn't surprise me to see them do so again.

Zontar said:
Personally looking forward to this, hoping Netflix Canada gets it and if they don't then I guess I'll be trying out CraveTV (which is the place it's 100% ending up if Netflix Canada doesn't get it)
I've been looking at international distribution as I live in Australia. It seems I may get it on Netflix, but you may not. Assuming www.startrek.com is accurate:

Star Trek: Discovery is coming to CBS All Access in January 2017, following the premiere on the CBS Television Network, and will be distributed concurrently on Netflix in 188 countries and through Bell Media in Canada.
 

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Neverhoodian said:
CBS released a trailer for the upcoming Star Trek show, now revealed to be called Star Trek: Discovery.

It's also been confirmed via Twitter that the show is set in the Prime timeline:
https://twitter.com/adambvary/status/756981563699503104

My initial reaction was mixed. The ship is clearly based on <a href=https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--FUyEiLpU--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18lsjl7zu3nqljpg.jpg>old Ralph McQuarrie concept art, but a part of me felt like it didn't "feel" like a Federation ship. The more I look at it however, the more I find myself warming up to the design. After all, there have been <a href=http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Oberth_class>far more unorthodox designs that made it into canon. I will say this though; maybe it's the lighting, but I'm not a fan of the brown coloring. It clashes with the blue-ish gray hues of most Federation vessels, and it's just plain ugly to look at. Also, the trailer's "generic buildup" music was a poor fit, in my opinion. I would have preferred something more along the lines of the Enterprise's grand reveal in Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

As an aside, someone in the comments pointed out that the series will have the unfortunate acronym of "STD." They may have wanted to go with something different (Unless the captain goes all Kirk on Orion females).
I think the video is region locked, I can't view it :(

Mind if that picture a few posts ago was any indication, I'm not missing much.
 

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I don't like the design of the ship. The triangular engineering section and the brown colour scheme just don't work for me.
 

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Gordon_4 said:
I think the video is region locked, I can't view it :(

Mind if that picture a few posts ago was any indication, I'm not missing much.
Here you go!

Fuck da region lock police.
 

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LegendaryGamer0 said:
AccursedTheory said:
I didn't realize Star Trek was using DC's 'Punch Time Hard Enough And Everything Forever, Forwards and Backwards, Is Fucked Up' time travel logic. Explains things.
I think the question is, is any of this surprising? Considering the amount of times they've been fucking with time and the reset button, it's a miracle it didn't happen before.
Actually I think it has happened at least once before but I haven't rewatched Trek in bulk for years.
Star Trek usually goes with the 'Stable Time Loop' method of time travel, where them going back and succeeding not only is a given, but if you pay attention to the history they're intruding on before they leave, you can tell that the past they're looking at already includes them. People also tend to cause events that they're trying to stop.

And then there's Star Fleet's Time Police, which are supposed to keep this kind of shit from happening, but seem to have been on coffee break while Spock and the Vulcans fuck everything up.

As for 'major' time fuck ups in Star Trek, there's only two that occur to me at the moment.

The first is Voyager's 'Year of Hell,' where a Time Ship is running amok and screwing up one region of space. It's resolved by forcing the ship out of it's Time Shielding (That kept them from directly experiencing the affects of their manipulations) and erasing the ship from time, effectively retconing all their bullshit (Yes, the ship should have been reconstructed, and it should have started all over again. Blame the fact that Voyager writers are renowned for not giving a shit).

The second is the Xindi event, when the intrusion of an entirely different Universe's space/time render anr sane logic moot, and all the time travelers just throw their hands up and hope they all don't cease to exist soon.
 

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I am underwhelmed. It's no wonder CBS is afraid of fan fiction, they're churning out quality levels akin to it. The CGI was dreadful. That would have passed in a video game, but not a show. Come on! Please tell me that was a rush job and they're going to clean it up before it launches. That said, we've seen worse. Babylon 5 anyone? And bad as the CGI was, borderline nauseating, the show's acting and scripting were by and large top notch... Now we sit and wait and hope less optimistic hopes then we did before the trailer.

What is it with trailers sucking these days?

Supplemental Log Entry: I think I can see what a lot of the fingers in the pie of Star Trek are struggling with. And as much as I'm loath to say it... Star Trek On Line seems to have tackled the issue of style better then any of the movies or series to date. That issue being that a Star Fleet vessel isn't designed for any one thing. Which is to say it's hull configuration isn't really all that important as of TNG thanks to the structural integrity field. That means a ship can look like it's from 2260 in 2450 and perform as well as one would expect of a ship with the hull design sensibilities of 2450. If they remembered that maybe they'd be less incline to go backward and more incline to bring a bit of that past into the present. And brown? Seriously? WHITE!!! The Federation ended the argument about whether to paint the new cop cars white or black and went with white. This was done in the real world to make the ship stand out on a black background and holds up given it's fictional ideology. The Enterprise D is only blue due to post production issues. It was never intended to be blue... although it works.
 

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Lodgey said:
through Bell Media in Canada.
Well, that pretty much confirms it'll be on CraveTV then. Not that I should be surprised, only TNG's movies are on Netflix here with the rest being on Crave already.
 

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AccursedTheory said:
I just realized something while showing this to a friend.

Does the silhouette look familiar to anyone else? Like something from another 'Star' series maybe? Or am I crazy?




You just won this post mate, that was brilliant.

As for the ship.... well I tend to find that the ships grow on you the more you watch the shows / movies so I am willing to wait and see.