Star Wars The Forces Awakens will be dead to me if Luke is confirmed to be evil.

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

So one of the most biggest and egregious popular theories regarding the upcoming Star Wars film is that the reason Luke Skywalker is not present in any of the marketing and trailers is because he is actually the Bad Guy. The guy with the Fancy Lightsaber.

I just think it goes against everything about Luke when he said "Never, I'll never turn to the Dark Side, I am a Jedi like my Father before me."

And the whole thing about trying to get Vader to see the error in his ways.

No just no. And besides for the MAJORITY of the original Expanded Universe Luke was still a Jedi.

No don't rehash Darth Vader in the form of Luke just no.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

So one of the most biggest and egregious popular theories regarding the upcoming Star Wars film is that the reason Luke Skywalker is not present in any of the marketing and trailers is because he is actually the Bad Guy. The guy with the Fancy Lightsaber.

Oh my word. This bloody theory.

The "guy with the fancy lightsaber" is Adam Driver. He's in the cast, he's in the marketing materials, we quite clearly see him with his helmet off and his long black hair, and when he talks to Vader's helmet it's with Driver's voice (however altered). Luke might be evil, but Kylo Ren is Adam Driver.

To say nothing of the fact that the saber isn't "fancy", it's primitive, and Luke knows how to make a proper lightsaber. And already has one to boot.

I just think it goes against everything about Luke when he said "Never, I'll never turn to the Dark Side, I am a Jedi like my Father before me."

Yeah the whole thing is that Luke DID turn to the Dark Side though, and does several times throughout the series. And I'm just re-watching it too, so this stuff is fresh in my mind. Buddy is always letting his emotions get the better of him, most particularly fear, petulance, and anger. He completely loses his shit in Jedi, and rides the ol' Dark Side wave to a savage victory over Vader. The thing about the force is it's fluid. You don't just "go Dark Side" and never recover. But Luke is like the poster boy for giving in to Dark Side impulses, at least until Lucas made the prequels and turned Anakin and Obi-Wan into a Star Wars rendition of Goofus and Gallant.

No don't rehash Darth Vader in the form of Luke just no.

But yes, I agree. Simply doing the whole "A Skywalker has gone evil!" routine would be very tired. Besides which, the show is already veritably brimming with bad guys, between Ren, Phasma, Hux, and Snoke. There comes a point where you reach bad guy overload.

If I had to guess, Luke is either off attending to Srs Jedi Business, or he doesn't trust himself and what he's capable of, so he's gone into Obi-Wan style seclusion.

 

[Taishakuten]

So one of the most biggest and egregious popular theories regarding the upcoming Star Wars film is that the reason Luke Skywalker is not present in any of the marketing and trailers is because he is actually the Bad Guy. The guy with the Fancy Lightsaber.

I just think it goes against everything about Luke when he said "Never, I'll never turn to the Dark Side, I am a Jedi like my Father before me."

And the whole thing about trying to get Vader to see the error in his ways.

No just no. And besides for the MAJORITY of the original Expanded Universe Luke was still a Jedi.

No don't rehash Darth Vader in the form of Luke just no.

Remember this scene?

The Emperor: [to Luke] The alliance... will die. As will your friends. Good, I can feel your anger. I am defenseless. Take your weapon. Strike me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!

...and Luke strikes. So yes, I believe the possibility of Luke being dark side is not so far fetched. Also I'm with Guppy in believing that Luke is living a hermit's life (probably on Tatooine) but comes out of hiding because Finn is in need of some proper training.

 

[Scarim Coral]

I can assure you, he's not the mask guy seen in the trailer!

Even then I guess you be glad you never read the books before the new film (don't know the exact details but apparent he did corrupted by dark side and had an internal struggle with it or something like that).

 

[Casual Shinji]

They won't make Luke evil. That would piss off all the Star Wars fans out there, and make the Phantom Menace fall-out look like a slight scoff.

If anything it'll be a ruse to rile up the audience. Show hints throughout the movie that maybe Luke as gone over to the Dark Side, just to fuck with us, but then by the end have him reveal to us that he's still the good guy we know and love.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

No. Luke is not turning to the dark side. He's in hiding. You can tell because of what Han says in the trailer about all of it being true. This implies that Luke, the Force, the Sith, and the Jedi have all sort of vanished from the galaxy--so much so that younger generations now think they are more myth and legend than history and fact. When Kylo comes back on the scene, it likely causes a panic.

Luke is probably hiding because he's outnumbered. We've seen the Kylo has troops with him. No, not stormtroopers. Actual knights. Luke is an old man now, and while he's most likely extremely powerful, he probably knows he can't fight that many on his own. So he's doing what Yoda did--waiting. He's waiting for the Force to tip the balance back in his favor by sending him an apprentice or two.

And then there's the problem Luke being evil would create just from a story standpoint. If Luke truly is evil, who is going to train Finn--and possibly Rey? Luke is the last Jedi we know of, and unless they bust out a totally cheap move and say, "Surprise! Here's another Jedi that was lurking in the background the whole time," then Luke is the only hope for Finn and/or Rey getting the training they need to stand against Kylo.

 

[Fox12]

I suspect it's actually a red herring. I could have sworn I saw two guys in masks in the trailer, though I could be mistaken. There will probably be speculation about him being the villain by the other characters, or else he'll be a seperate "villain."

Then it will turn out his motives were actually pure, or he had a secret mission against an unknown enemy or something. I'm just saying, Hollywood loves its Jesus imagery. They think they're being clever or something. And that stupid looking light saber does resemble a cross.

 

[Slycne]

My personal theory is that Kylo Ren is Luke's first apprentice who has fallen to the dark side. Post-Return of the Jedi, Luke takes on an apprentice in order to restore the Jedi Order. While he gets to talk to Yoda and Obi Wan sometimes, there isn't a lot of other instructions around for raising a new Jedi properly, so he mucks it up and Kylo falls. Fearing a repeat he instead goes into hiding and/or becomes a hermit. This would line up with the trailers with some of the plot of Force Awakens being Finn, Han, and Rey tracking down Luke and convincing him to train again, and everyone having forgotten/disbelieves about the Force/Jedi/Sith.

 

[Lightknight]

I bet you some donuts that he's currently residing in Yoda's Swamp, meditating and playing swamp volleyball with blue spirit Jedi.

 

[Bat Vader]

If Luke does turn to the Dark Side he certainly isn't Kylo Ren. Kylo Ren has a slim build like his actor Adam Driver. Mark Hamill has a larger build. I hate to say it but Hamill kinda got fat.

 

[Breakdown]

They might go for a master and apprentice thing with Luke as the Sith Lord and Kylo Ren as the apprentice. Like Palpatine and Vader.

Personally, I think Luke will be an alcoholic tramp in the new film, living on the hard streets of Tattooine, using his Jedi mind tricks to get people to give him spare change. The plot will follow Han Solo's attempts to give Luke some clean clothes and get him into a sheltered accommodation scheme.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

There's no way they'll kill off both him AND Han. Luke will be safe until at least the next one.

While I agree that killing them both in the same film might be overdoing it, I do think it's important to shuffle the older generation off the screen as promptly as possible. This shouldn't and can't be "their movies", they have to pass the baton. I've come around to the idea of them being there at all...it was an idea I initially hated...I think they provide an important bridge to the original trilogy, and it's something the franchise needs at this point. But no one wants to see a bunch of septuagenarian actors fumbling their way through a space opera.

 

[Neurotic Void Melody]

I don't understand why people care this much about a movie series. They're just a bit of fun, christ! (Sorry, J-dude if that is really that offensive to you, maybe you're not as forgiving as they would have me believe). They're a temporary distraction. Maybe the internet isn't the place for me, people get so passionate about children's/young adult fiction. Whereas currently our country are now needlessly bombing innocents abroad while taxpayers, the disabled and vulnerable at home suffer their service cuts. Perhaps this is why the staff here have seeming contempt for me, stemming from somewhere. :/

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Maybe the internet isn't the place for me, people get so passionate about children's/young adult fiction. Whereas currently our country are now needlessly bombing innocents abroad while taxpayers, the disabled and vulnerable at home suffer their service cuts. Perhaps this is why the staff here have seeming contempt for me, stemming from somewhere. :/

I'm not entirely sure what you were expecting when you signed up for a website called "The Escapist". Stone-jawed round tables about tax reform? Grim soliloquies about the manifest evils of society?

To quote a member of these forums, "It's just a bit of fun, Christ!". Settle down, Eeyore.

 

[Neurotic Void Melody]

I'm not entirely sure what you were expecting when you signed up for a website called "The Escapist". Stone-jawed round tables about tax reform? Grim soliloquies about the manifest evils of society?

To quote a member of these forums, "It's just a bit of fun, Christ!". Settle down, Eeyore.

Hey, me and Eoyore have a shared condition that he'd rather not share on TV! We have an agreement.
Apologies if i came across greyer than usual, it is just a little previous political situation puts things in a new light that makes everything else feel quite trivial. I should've added smileys, that always helps