Star Wars VII: Will the new trilogy learn from Videos like this?

[Basement Cat]

It's pretty simple. First watch this amateur video--


Then ask yourselves whether the new Star Wars trilogy/annual movie releases will approach the "Jedi/Sith/Force" factors as well as amateur videos like this one?

Back in 1977 when Star Wars was made Jedi Knights were what George Lucas made them. Fast forward to the present and Hollywood as well as amateur film makers have the resources to make films like this whose special effects and acting actually surpass the original trilogy. People have made far more complex stories, as well.

Do you think that films like this will influence how the next Star Wars trilogy will be plotted and made?

 

[Floppertje]

so is there a point here besides 'hey, this is pretty cool'?
yeah, it is. reminds me of those trailers for The Old Republic. I'm not too worried about the fights in the new movies. the prequels sucked, but the fights were probably the biggest thing they had going for them. if they bomb, it'll be for other reasons.

 

[Legion]

i dont quite get your question.

I believe the question is asking whether people hope they spend more time based around the Jedi/Sith/Force side of things. Most of the films don't tend to have much about it. The Sith are just the Sith and the Jedi are just the Jedi, there are no real details, they are just there. A brief mention of Midicholorians and a few small scenes based around the Jedi academy are about the extent of it.

Things like what training is like, what it means to be a Jedi/Sith besides getting a lightsaber and fighting etc.

 

[Saltyk]

Did that Jedi use Force Choke at the start? Jedi don't use the force to harm others. Not even their enemies. That's why we never see a Jedi use the Force to choke or attack with lightning. They wouldn't cause direct harm with it. Just like how they don't kill their prisoners.

Anyway, that was a cool video. I wouldn't be surprised to see something like that in the upcoming movies. And honestly, I'd enjoy that. Here's hoping.

 

[LittleWings]

Did that Jedi use Force Choke at the start? Jedi don't use the force to harm others. Not even their enemies. That's why we never see a Jedi use the Force to choke or attack with lightning. They wouldn't cause direct harm with it. Just like how they don't kill their prisoners.

Anyway, that was a cool video. I wouldn't be surprised to see something like that in the upcoming movies. And honestly, I'd enjoy that. Here's hoping.

Didn't Luke choke Jabba's guards in Return of the Jedi?

 

[C F]

...strike, kick, dodge, Throw Saber, Shock, Force Wave, Shii-Cho form, Ataru Form...

I've been doing too much Jedi combat in Knights of the Old Republic II, because that is literally all that went through my mind during the fight sequence.

I've got hopeful nerd optimism about what the next trilogy will showcase, but I wouldn't exactly expect Disney to highlight Jedi-Sith philosophies and techniques in their movies. Instead, I'm probably going to get a heartwarming tale about a (group of) protagonist(s) overcoming difficulties and achieving a happy ending in a generically sci-fi universe. There may or may not be a lightsaber and the throwing of a box with one's mind.
The lightsaber will be blue.

 

[Saltyk]

Did that Jedi use Force Choke at the start? Jedi don't use the force to harm others. Not even their enemies. That's why we never see a Jedi use the Force to choke or attack with lightning. They wouldn't cause direct harm with it. Just like how they don't kill their prisoners.

Anyway, that was a cool video. I wouldn't be surprised to see something like that in the upcoming movies. And honestly, I'd enjoy that. Here's hoping.

Didn't Luke choke Jabba's guards in Return of the Jedi?

He did. But he wasn't really a Jedi. Nor a Sith. Rather he was something else. One of the major aspects of the movies was that Luke learned to use his emotions, but not become consumed by them. Like Vader or other Sith.

Personally, I never liked that Luke used Choke on Jabba's palace guard. Force Choke is always shown as a rather cruel act. Luke, a hero, shouldn't be shown making others suffer. I always assumed that Jedi like Yoda could use those abilities, but choose not to. Because they went against their ideology.

...strike, kick, dodge, Throw Saber, Shock, Force Wave, Shii-Cho form, Ataru Form...

I've been doing too much Jedi combat in Knights of the Old Republic II, because that is literally all that went through my mind during the fight sequence.

I've got hopeful nerd optimism about what the next trilogy will showcase, but I wouldn't exactly expect Disney to highlight Jedi-Sith philosophies and techniques in their movies. Instead, I'm probably going to get a heartwarming tale about a (group of) protagonist(s) overcoming difficulties and achieving a happy ending in a generically sci-fi universe. There may or may not be a lightsaber and the throwing of a box with one's mind.
The lightsaber will be blue.

Well, Luke would probably train his students to use the Force, but not shut off their emotions. So, I could easily see one of his students turning against the others and becoming Sith. Or even having a conflict within the ranks. And considering that Disney made all those Marvel movies, I wouldn't say they won't do a somewhat darker story. Star Wars is generally a PG or PG-13 series, so I doubt they would have much issue.

 

[Guffe]

I think I've seen that one before.
Another very good Jedi "home made" movie series is the Ryan vs Dorkman ones

Spoiler: RvD1

The fun thing here is that you can actually see them growing a lot in the making of special effects and coreography (most likely spelled wrong, but didn't have the will to google the word ) in the year or two that these differ.

Spoiler: RvD2

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Alright, here's an idea for Star Wars VII.

Our protagonist is an 18 year old dude named Taylor Solo, son of Han-Leia. The movie begins on his first day in Jedi school, where he gets picked on by Jedi bullies before joining the Jedi average-joes. Taylor Solo is incredibly sexy and handsome and he's ripped and he's smart and kinda famous but he's still kind of an underdog. He locks eyes with a female student named Kristen, who is very shy and doesn't really have friends. She's also sexy as hell and bodacious and etc. Anyway there's a Sith comeback threat, which is being helmed by one of the asshole students. So Taylor and Kristen are matched together by their Jedi mentors because they work so well together. There's also a funny Rodian sidekick (like Greedo) who's voiced by a black guy. Anyway, Taylor and Kristen and Greedo 2# are joined by a fourth party member called Chad Fett, son of Boba (yes Boba had a son shut up), who's even more handsome and sexy than Taylor, and he's also kind of quiet and cool and aloof (he hates Taylor Solo because you know, lots of shipping potential BTW). Anyway, stuff happens and there's a big battle at the end. Taylor and Kristen decide to not kiss because that's not how Jedis roll, so more sexual tension for the sequel!

 

[Billy D Williams]

Alright, here's an idea for Star Wars VII.

Our protagonist is an 18 year old dude named Taylor Solo, son of Han-Leia. The movie begins on his first day in Jedi school, where he gets picked on by Jedi bullies before joining the Jedi average-joes. Taylor Solo is incredibly sexy and handsome and he's ripped and he's smart and kinda famous but he's still kind of an underdog. He locks eyes with a female student named Kristen, who is very shy and doesn't really have friends. She's also sexy as hell and bodacious and etc. Anyway there's a Sith comeback threat, which is being helmed by one of the asshole students. So Taylor and Kristen are matched together by their Jedi mentors because they work so well together. There's also a funny Rodian sidekick (like Greedo) who's voiced by a black guy. Anyway, Taylor and Kristen and Greedo 2# are joined by a fourth party member called Chad Fett, son of Boba (yes Boba had a son shut up), who's even more handsome and sexy than Taylor, and he's also kind of quiet and cool and aloof (he hates Taylor Solo because you know, lots of shipping potential BTW). Anyway, stuff happens and there's a big battle at the end. Taylor and Kristen decide to not kiss because that's not how Jedis roll, so more sexual tension for the sequel!

So, Twilight with vampires replaced with Jedis and Bob Marley gets promoted from cameo appearence to side character? And besides, what about my role in the new films?!?!?!

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Alright, here's an idea for Star Wars VII.

Our protagonist is an 18 year old dude named Taylor Solo, son of Han-Leia. The movie begins on his first day in Jedi school, where he gets picked on by Jedi bullies before joining the Jedi average-joes. Taylor Solo is incredibly sexy and handsome and he's ripped and he's smart and kinda famous but he's still kind of an underdog. He locks eyes with a female student named Kristen, who is very shy and doesn't really have friends. She's also sexy as hell and bodacious and etc. Anyway there's a Sith comeback threat, which is being helmed by one of the asshole students. So Taylor and Kristen are matched together by their Jedi mentors because they work so well together. There's also a funny Rodian sidekick (like Greedo) who's voiced by a black guy. Anyway, Taylor and Kristen and Greedo 2# are joined by a fourth party member called Chad Fett, son of Boba (yes Boba had a son shut up), who's even more handsome and sexy than Taylor, and he's also kind of quiet and cool and aloof (he hates Taylor Solo because you know, lots of shipping potential BTW). Anyway, stuff happens and there's a big battle at the end. Taylor and Kristen decide to not kiss because that's not how Jedis roll, so more sexual tension for the sequel!

So, Twilight with vampires replaced with Jedis and Bob Marley gets promoted from cameo appearence to side character? And besides, what about my role in the new films?!?!?!

Lando is the disapproving headmaster of Jedi school, for some reason.

 

[kypsilon]

Did that Jedi use Force Choke at the start? Jedi don't use the force to harm others. Not even their enemies. That's why we never see a Jedi use the Force to choke or attack with lightning. They wouldn't cause direct harm with it. Just like how they don't kill their prisoners.

Anyway, that was a cool video. I wouldn't be surprised to see something like that in the upcoming movies. And honestly, I'd enjoy that. Here's hoping.

Didn't Luke choke Jabba's guards in Return of the Jedi?

Yes he did, he choked out a Gammorrean (spelling?) guard in Jabba's palace. However, Luke wasn't technically a Jedi at that point and more of a Force Savant, so he was using both sides of the Force to a small degree. He didn't kill the guard though, which is the difference most people ignore.

As for Kyle Katarn in Dark Forces...well, he makes a good case about both sides being intent of use, but honestly, if you intend to use evil power to make good things happen, it's not an excuse to use dark power. "The road to Hell is paved with good intent." See also...Anakin Skyalker for details.

As for the video above...the lines between Jedi and Sith were liberally blurred here. The Sith leader for example hanging back and centering himself? Not very aggressive, as Sith are wont to be. The most aggressive guy in there was the Jedi. I think that as far as the new movies are concerned, they could do well by thinking about the philosophy behind the warriors a lot more than just focusing on having flashy light sabre scenes everywhere.

 

[Heronblade]

I'd be interesting in them exploring the direction Luke takes his new Jedi order in. and in so doing, finally fulfill that prophecy concerning Anakin.

Both the Jedi and Sith core philosophies are fatally flawed. One side is largely incapable of action, mostly due to fear of loss of control (often ironically enough, frustration born of this same inaction causes many to lose control) The other side... well lets just say that there is a reason not a single one of the Sith organizations last any real length of time.

 

[Basement Cat]

Did that Jedi use Force Choke at the start? Jedi don't use the force to harm others. Not even their enemies. That's why we never see a Jedi use the Force to choke or attack with lightning. They wouldn't cause direct harm with it. Just like how they don't kill their prisoners.

Anyway, that was a cool video. I wouldn't be surprised to see something like that in the upcoming movies. And honestly, I'd enjoy that. Here's hoping.

The whole "Force Choke is a Dark Side ability" concept was introduced in the Star Wars RPG. Lucas has repeatedly stated that the movies and only the movies are canon. This means that even the novelizations aren't considered canon--which makes sense to anyone who's ever read The Empire Strikes Back where Yoda is described as being blue rather than green.

I kid you not. Look it up like I did after running across that bit of trivia. I hadn't read that book in ages but it turned out to be true.

In short while Yoda harps to Luke that the Force should only be used for knowledge and defense--never aggression--there remains plenty of wiggle room for what a Jedi Knight should and should not do with the Force.

And thus more opportunities for writers to have a hey-day with the new trilogy and yearly "independent of the trilogy" movies Disney has announced it will be making.