Starbucks Controversy

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wench

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Luffie said:
leverage or not she always had a choice, i dont claim to know how this particular girl feels but its only through benevolence im willing to give her enough credit to not be 16 and still have no common sense or reasoning capability, to *actually* think she "did what she had to" - as in: if she wouldnt do it she would get fired, first off, thats not exactly the end of the world, secondly they need to have at least some grounds for firing her otherwise it would be a blatant case for unfair treatment. In this scenario, if anything, she did what she thought she "had" to do in order to move up from the grunt work and land a job with more pay/less labour.
No, actually, they don't need to have any grounds for firing anyone at all in most states. Should she have told someone? Of course. However, I'm not going to bet on a 16-year-old knowing exactly what to do in that sort of situation. Manager should be fired, Starbucks should be penalized on some level and have to sort out a better way of making sure this doesn't happen in the future. If she can show that they knew about a relationship that was against policy and did nothing about it, then she certainly has a case.
 

Maelgwyn

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wench said:
No, actually, they don't need to have any grounds for firing anyone at all in most states. Should she have told someone? Of course. However, I'm not going to bet on a 16-year-old knowing exactly what to do in that sort of situation. Manager should be fired, Starbucks should be penalized on some level and have to sort out a better way of making sure this doesn't happen in the future. If she can show that they knew about a relationship that was against policy and did nothing about it, then she certainly has a case.
Depends on the state and its unfair dismissal laws. In Aus (I only know Aus) you can be done for unfair dismissal if you have over 100 employees (or something). And I would bet on a 16 year old knowing what to do - its literally drummed into you many many times. Or even better, the mother of the 16 year old would know what to do. If she was 'raped' wouldnt you talk to your parent, who would then flip out and ring head office baying for blood? Really, something that isnt discussed is if the *parent* is doing her job of raising and looking after her child.

Again, the old adage of its someone elses fault for my problems
 

Summerstorm

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I never grasped the american concept of: People are assholes... lets sue some companies. It's not like Starbuck ordered sexual assaults, or?

And if i slip and break my arms it surely wasn't the fault of some people who owned the ground i walked on...

All this suing...
 

Dooly95

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"You know, they have a responsibility to these teenagers," says Joanna Moore.

In an interview with ABC News, she was asked: "Is it fair, though, to expect Starbucks to take on that role?"

Joanna Moore's response: "You know, if they can't do that, then they shouldn't hire teenage workers."
Maelgwyn said:
Again, the old adage of its someone elses fault for my problems
Couldn't of put it better myself.

The manager got jailed, yet the "victim" wants more blood. For what seems to be his word against hers (because I don't see them screwing around at work where there are dozens of customers) she seems to be asking a lot from this.

His fault for abusing his power, her fault for not standing up, and the mother's fault for not teaching her how to. Starbucks probably owes allowing a moron to have that sort of power in the first place.
 

FastFoot92

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[HEADING=1]WHAT???!?!?[/HEADING]

Seriously WHAT THE HELL.

Your saying they don't have a Starbucks in your Area?

I'm not believing anything you write