Steam being open.
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In my experience the Mac client isn't as fine-tuned as the PC client and as I stated I no longer use it and it's being a while since I even had it installed. So it might have being fixed by now. I don't know. My computer is doing quite well, I doubt it's a problem on that end.DrOswald said:
Over her, prices in retail just drop a lot faster then on Steam, you can buy say new game A for 30,- after as little as three weeks. That doesn't happen on Steam in my experience. But that's not really a reason to dislike the client...
Steam is a U.S.A. based company and their prices pretty much reflect standard U.S.A. prices (ignoring Steam's frequent and significant sales.)Cornish said:
By the way, where is "over here"? Australia? New Jersey? Sea Land?
I don't use Macs, so I can't really speak on the quality of the Mac client, but I'll ask a friend who uses steam on a Mac and report back what his numbers are.
Be that as it may and to be frank it isn't. We pay significantly more than the U.S.A. prices (we pay the standard EU prices and ?/£60,- > $60,-), there was a time they were based on the U.S.A. prices, but that time has long gone by. (Sadly.)DrOswald said:
Europe represent! The Netherlands.
That sucks. I wouldn't have figured that Steam would charge that much more for games in Europe than standard retailers, steam games are really well priced in the USA. Maybe Valve Europe or whatever they call it is full of idiots. Hopefully that will improve in the future.Cornish said:
P.S. I know a guy who lived in the Netherlands for 2 years. He says it's a great place.
Mild inconvience my arse! I once had to wait a full day for all the patches to upload. A day! That's right, it only takes a few minutes to install any other game on my PC and then I get to play it straight away, but some games that I buy in the store, force you onto Steam and all the excitement you had about playing them slowly drains away as you go to bed, sleep, wake up, have breakfast, go out, have lunch, come back home, have a meal, watch some TV and THEN sit down to play your game.Aidinthel said:
I miss the days that I could just buy a game, slip it into whatever machine/console and just start playing it. In fact, these days I'll even consider buying a game just because it's not on Steam. That's right, Steam is so pedantic that a game with no connections to it, actually gives that game a recommendation.
So there's why Steam is so bad, Amishdemon.
Yeah, except Best Buy and GameStop aren't the only places you can buy hard copies of games. Sure, I admit that Steam has some pretty good sales on, but whenever I want a specific game, I've always been able to find it cheaper somewhere else, usually on Amazon.DrOswald said:
Eh the offline mode seems kind of hit or miss. I have had it turn on for no real reason. My main problem with it is the patching. Steam is really really god awful at patching.
-- Some games require special steam versions of patches. Which tends to mean if your game is broke your going to wait awhile.
-- You cannot choose your patch version. Take for example fallout 3 or fallout new vegas. Both games have had some pretty horrific patches that have flat out broke the game, sometimes taking months for them to address an issue. (If you can select which patch to use however, you can simply skip that patch until they get their act together)
-- Steam bugs. Again, lets call up the fallout new Vegas as an easy example. It released with a steam "feature" of cloud saving on. Unfortunately it didn't work. It hid your save games. Eventually this was fixed, but it should never have happened. Also, it creates additional hurdles for people trying to modify their game. Want to play with more then 4gb of ram? Tough cookies unless you download more programs to trick steam into not f'ing with your game.
-- Some games require special steam versions of patches. Which tends to mean if your game is broke your going to wait awhile.
-- You cannot choose your patch version. Take for example fallout 3 or fallout new vegas. Both games have had some pretty horrific patches that have flat out broke the game, sometimes taking months for them to address an issue. (If you can select which patch to use however, you can simply skip that patch until they get their act together)
-- Steam bugs. Again, lets call up the fallout new Vegas as an easy example. It released with a steam "feature" of cloud saving on. Unfortunately it didn't work. It hid your save games. Eventually this was fixed, but it should never have happened. Also, it creates additional hurdles for people trying to modify their game. Want to play with more then 4gb of ram? Tough cookies unless you download more programs to trick steam into not f'ing with your game.
worked on my old pc too, but i have had that problem everytime my internet failed now.Aidinthel said:
and a bunch of my friends too.
I think it's dependant on if you save your login info.
If the game has steamworks thats a big plus for me though. i'm not offline often and have 170 games or so on steam and still pay less then i did when console gaming ans only buying very few games.
Like I said in my post, Amazon can have better prices than steam, but not really consistently. Besides, when you take into account that you also have to pay shipping amazon is usually more expensive than steam. Then you have to wait at least 3 days for the game to get to you (unless you pay even more to get it in 2). Very inconvenient.Farther than stars said:
sadly off-line mode doesn,t work.Aidinthel said:
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it,s annoying if you want to play some steam games on a laptop without a internet connection.
As others have said, it does work so long as you're online when you log in. I've had virtually no internet for the past week or so, but if I can piggyback someone else's unsecured wireless for the minute or so it takes to log into Steam then the games play as normally.henritje said:
Thank god for unsecured internet
That sounds far from normal. I've used the Mac version on and off since it first came out, and while it's always been a bit flakier than the Windows version, I've never seen it use too much over 100MB of RAM (which is a good deal more than the Windows version, but OS X in general is pretty RAM-happy). I use the Windows version on my desktop much more often than the Mac version on my laptop, but I haven't heard anything exceptionally weird like that from the people I game with weekly who mainly use the Mac version. I've had more trouble with its CPU use while it's (supposedly) idle than anything else, where it sits there using a good 5-10% of my CPU to do absolutely nothing other than display the game list in a window in the background.Cornish said:
Never saw this as an annoyance, in fact steam let's me get to my games faster, and keep them updated. I realize that it may use some resources, but I got a high end PC, it really doesn't bother me at all. In fact I use it to launch non-steam games as well.