Steam Machine By Digital Storm Will Cost You $1900
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The $500 option doesn't outperform either console, and the $700 i5 with a GTX 760, while a bit more powerful than current gen, isn't going to attract many new people over to PC gaming because of the price. Normal consumers were bitching about the price of the Xbox One, do you really think they are going to pay $200 more for something that is more of a hassle to game on? On top of that, these cases are tiny and it will end up being a huge pain to upgrade. Might as well build a tower for that money.Ultratwinkie said:
Conversely you are understating the power of the PS4. It's GPU is closer to a 7870 [http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/156273-xbox-720-vs-ps4-vs-pc-how-the-hardware-specs-compare] than a 7850M, a claim which you have made without sources I might add. If you are truly a PC gamer then you would know that the CPU isn't that big of a bottleneck for gaming, and while the Jaguar cores were made for laptops and tablets, those devices tend to only have 2-4 cores, not 8. Please quit misinforming people.Ultratwinkie said:
As far as steam machines being for people who don't want to build towers, why would they buy a $700 machine they are going to have to replace in 4 years? If they aren't building towers and upgrading themselves then I guess they are expected to just scrap that expensive box. Might as well buy a console for $400 and replace it in 7 years.
You're forgetting that DirectX is going to eat a lot of your resources with it's massive overhead. You need more powerful components just to match the PS4's performance due to it's custom API. I'm aware number of cores isn't important, due to saying that CPUs aren't a gaming bottleneck. Please read what I write, and not what you thought I wrote. Most games are developed with one core in mind, BF4 is the first to use 8 cores. Games will be designed differently for the consoles to take advantage of the tech available to them. As far as upgrading goes, you will need to upgrade if you are using some of the parts from the basic Steam Machines. For some reason you only care about "beating consoles", instead of PC gaming. If you want to keep up with what PC gaming is actually capable of 4 years is a pretty reasonable amount of time before you'll need to upgrade your rig. Having to upgrade constantly is a myth, but so is never having to upgrade.Ultratwinkie said:
Steam Machines are a terrible idea. They aren't going to convert console gamers due to price or complexity, and PC gamers are just going to build something more powerful at a better price.
I do understand, Linux and Steam Machines aren't going to be widely adopted, so there will be no incentive for developers to break from Direct X. Hell, most of the Steam Machine partners know that, so their boxes are coming with dual boot Windows 8. That way when the shit hits the fan, their product isn't completely worthless. Mantle looks a little more promising, but there is no telling if AMD will share their toys with NVidia users (similar to PhysX). If that's the case, either people will need to switch to AMD parts (could cost some people a lot of money) to gain access to that API, or it won't end up as widely used, once again leaving Direct X king.Ultratwinkie said:
Beautiful conspiracy theory. You do seem to forget that despite having the Metro interface and the Windows store, Windows 8 is still an open system. I can install whatever programs I want without a hitch. Origin, Uplay, and Steam still exist and work fine. It's hard to make a claim like "the mainstream population think Microsoft is Hitler [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum]" and still have people take you seriously. In fact the mainstream population seems to think Microsoft is alright considering Windows is installed on nearly 80% of all PCs (if Wikipedia is to be believed).Ultratwinkie said:
What you write is almost entirely hyperbole, so I'm done arguing with you.
*tips hat*
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Why would I buy a steam machine then when I can just buy a PC rig???
More and more my interest in the Steam Box is dying valve, sorry
More and more my interest in the Steam Box is dying valve, sorry
