Steam made me a pirate!

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DigitalSushi

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Richard Groovy Pants said:
Fangface74 said:
Richard Groovy Pants said:
I don't know of anyone who has taken precautions on the Internet and still got hacked. That's why I'm finding it a huge coincidence since all my friends who don't understand why Windows is called Windows get hacked/infected quite often.
I promise you, the only foolproof method of securing your system from the net is to unplug your modem.
I'm very aware of that. But why would a hacker centre his attention on you? I just seems ludicrous. Unless you lost your password trough a keylogger, which should be blamed on a keylogger. Which any anti-virus would intercept.

See my line of thought?
"Hi I'm Troy McClure, you may remember me from such overly convoluted hacking techniques as asking a guy for his password and him not seeing if a program isn't a keylogger program"

screw this shit, I've had enough of this site and you people, i'm off to talk to that Nigerian General on hotmail with 10 mil in the bank, at least he listens to me and understands how I feel.
 

sheic99

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Erana said:
I wish that one's steam profile would be seperate from one's actual games.
What bothers me is that, when my computer decides to be a jerk and not let me on the internet, I can't play my steam games, dispite the fact that they are on my computer.
There is an offline mode for Steam. When you log on to Steam and it fails to connect a button on the failed connection window should say a play offline .
 

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Fangface I'm getting mighty curious to hear how your account was hijacked. I believe that if there are Hollywood super hackers out there who can access a persons information through protective software without that person taking some ill-advised action to give them a way in, then these people would be far too contented counting all the money they had received from the worlds governments holding our nuclear stockpiles to ransom....or some such shit.
 

MercFox1

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While I feel bad for the OP, I can't say I disagree with Valve's stance on the issue. Hell, I've had my account hacked before (long time ago, hasn't happened since, and I'm a much smarter user now) which involved a long process and lots of communication with Valve.

The OP had the misfortune of dealing with both hacking and account stealing, which I would hope isn't a very widespread issue, but at some point, he became a target, and most of the time that occurs through some fault of the user (trojan, keylogger, negligence).

And yes, GenHellspawn, it is their fault that banks are appealing targets, because of the type of business they chose to go into and conduct; as such, they have much higher security and take many more precautions than a convenience store would take.
 

insanelich

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Frankly, 100% securing your system is impossible if you leave it out on the public net. It's far harder to secure a system that can run Steam, too.

So unless you have a machine for running Steam and only Steam, the chances are you will be vulnerable at some point. No antivirus, no update, no firewall can protect you all of the time... as someone who has fallen to a zero-day virus thrice now can attest to. Thrice in five years, mind you, but still, it happens.

Much more so for someone without professional level skills for securing his system.
 

Bulletinmybrain

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Erana said:
I wish that one's steam profile would be seperate from one's actual games.
What bothers me is that, when my computer decides to be a jerk and not let me on the internet, I can't play my steam games, dispite the fact that they are on my computer.
It is anti-piracy technique.


By logging into steam they make sure you don't put the game on a USB drive and then sell it.
 

Bob_F_It

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Richard Groovy Pants said:
If your account got hacked then there's no one to blame but yourself.

That's all I have to say about this.
It's more than just the victim to blame. If there weren't such such annoying fuckheads on the internet, we wouldn't have this problem.
And it's not necessarily you who's installed the spyware - most likely your naïve brother with no concept for illegal activety on the net.
 

Erana

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Bulletinmybrain said:
Erana said:
I wish that one's steam profile would be seperate from one's actual games.
What bothers me is that, when my computer decides to be a jerk and not let me on the internet, I can't play my steam games, dispite the fact that they are on my computer.
It is anti-piracy technique.


By logging into steam they make sure you don't put the game on a USB drive and then sell it.
Yes, but its annoying as Hell. AND the offline play doesn't want to work.
 

cheers12

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@Richard Groovy Pants
It seems that your entire argument is based on the fact that people should know that there is a risk of being hacked on anything, thus they should protect all their passwords/computers to make it as hard as possible for the hackers to get into, and i agree 100%. However, even the best of computer users can be careless and get hacked. So instead of wasting your time tell us that OP should have used better protection, tell him getting back at valve is not a solution

also when people do stupid things, they don't try to learn from the mistake, but rather sue the company for millions of dollars. IE Liebeck v. McDonald' (AKA the hot coffee case)
 

MaxRaine

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I can't believe the amount of asshattery in this thread...

OP shouldn't sell illegal copies of the games.
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Those blaming him for being hacked are morons.

Being the victim of theft is never the victims fault, unless he walks around with a sign saying "My keys are under the figurine on the porch and I won't be home for the next two days". The only one to blame in this incident is THE DAMN HACKER! I've heard of other people who's also been stabbed in the eye by the companies after their account for games and such gets hacked. Everyone seem to always blame the victim.

If the victim is an ingame-currency buyer in any MMO then yes he has himself to blame.
If the victim is an Average Joe that plays the games for fun and happens to check out sites a tech savvy would know to stay away from, then no, he's not to blame for not having the interest/time/patience to learn the signs, computer stuff just isn't for everyone but we are still "forced" to use them in today's society.
If the victim clicks a link sent to him that happens to be a phishing link, then NO, the fault lies entirely with the phisher.

Also, sure some of you might like hard copies of your games, but when it's Steam related games it doesn't matter that you have the disc, after your account is hacked you can't register the key to a new account anyway, and thus the disc is just junk.
 

DragunovHUN

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GenHellspawn said:
DragunovHUN said:
To be fair it's kinda your fault for letting your account get hacked
You could apply this to bank heists too. I mean, it's their fault for being such an appealing target, isn't it?
No not really. A Steam account can only be stolen if your password gets keylogged (either at home or in an internet coffee), or your password is something stupid like 12345 or password, or you tell it to someone claiming to be a Valve employee.
 

jebussaves88

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I've taken to creating a new steam account for each game I play. That way, if i get inexplicably banned on one game, I still got the others to play. It's hassle, but it works.
 

Markness

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Richard Groovy Pants said:
If your account got hacked then there's no one to blame but yourself.

That's all I have to say about this.
You're like that evil guy in movies who's always like if you hadn't of done this I wouldn't have had to kill her, it's all your fault. I think I heard a rapist once say It's the women's fault for wearing provocative dresses. I don't know if someone corrected you or you've changed your views in the next three pages but It should be obvious to you that the perpetrator is the only person at fault in a crime. "Hey, I should be scott free for murdering those children, they should have been wearing bullet-proof vests."

Edit: By the way OP, just download the games you've bought, It's quicker and less than risky than selling them and If you've already paid for them then you have a right to play them.
 

jezz8me

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If you have bought the game i see no problem in pirating it because the developer gets the money and no one gets a free game. If it was a console game you got a ROM for this would be perfectly legal. find a way to prove you bought the games if you come across legal action (unlikely) but otherwise feel no guilt.