Steam User Finds Misogynistic "Joke" Buried in Dead Island Code [UPDATED]

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GeorgW

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Regardless of what I may feel about this incident, I must say that Techland handled it very well. Kudos!
 

Logan Westbrook

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FelixG said:
I would actually really laugh if it was a female programer that put this in and she was hating on the fact that Pruna is really just a representative of things that set real feminists back.

And on the fallout 3/NV perks: Its not a realistic comparison. Any character can pick those up as they like or not, where as this is a specific ability built into a pre generated character people are supposed to play as.

Oh and I love the moderation on these forums, make a comment about a general group and you get suspended/warned where as blatant personal attacks go unchecked... Real classy stuff that.
Personal attacks sent to the report que are punished. If you don't see a warning, report it. You'll get more results that way.
 

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I'd laugh so hard if the programmer that did the "joke" was... a woman. :p I mean, I do that too for some of my games and comics, giving them goofy and naughty and inappropriate names for fun... though I have the foresight to NOT keep them in the final product.
 

draythefingerless

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oh this brings memories....the things ive named stupidly and jokingly


»johnlookslike_a_asshole»

good times...

poor programmer. getting fired over idiocy and exageration of others.
 

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Logan Westbrook said:
I'd imagine - or hope, at least - that this is some really, stupendously, dumb in-joke at Techland, and not indicative of someone's actual attitudes.
Putting aside personal opinions about feminism for a moment, I see statements like this a lot. Statements that boil down to "I hope he's joking". Do you really live in such a cultural bubble that the very idea of someone unironically having anti-feminist attitudes is absurd to you? Ivory tower, much?
 

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I hate when people get offended by stupid things like this... it makes it difficult to have fun with other rational people. I'm sure it WAS a joke and whomever wrote it doesn't think all feminists are whores (or whatever the crazy people are saying it implies). It's not like he wrote a memo describing why all females are horrible beings! It's one line.

And it's not even IN the game! Kinda reminds me of the "hot coffee" fiasco. Ugh... some people make me angry.
 

ishist

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That little bit of insulting goes both ways. The internal script identifier is considered misogynistic, yet the skill itself is perfectly OK. A skill that causes a woman to do extra damage to males is fine, but can you imagine the uproar that would have been caused by a skill that allowed Males to do extra damage to Females?

Ah, the hypocrisy and double standards of our lovely society.
 

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Hertzila said:
How is hating feminists equal to hating females? How? Yeah, maybe naming that skill as such wasn't the best idea but how is that hating females?
because people are too stupid to realize that a feminist is someone who thinks women should have essentially the same rights as men, the right wingers have done a very good job of demonizing the word so people think it means man hating women, but it doesnt

the really weird think about the joke is that it says "feministwhore" I mean chances are the feminist thing they are talking about is man hating (despite the fact she doesnt seem to hate men) but a whore is someone who sells themselfs for money as far as I can tell the ones she really hates are rich people so the joke doesnt really make sense
 

Logan Westbrook

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shitoutonme said:
Logan Westbrook said:
We've reached out to Techland to see if it has any comment on this discovery and will update when and if we hear anything back.
The Escapist has resources to waste apparently.

Now, I'm wondering how the hell this site is having trouble paying its dues.
Last I checked, sending e-mails was free.
 

Lvl 64 Klutz

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shitoutonme said:
Logan Westbrook said:
We've reached out to Techland to see if it has any comment on this discovery and will update when and if we hear anything back.
The Escapist has resources to waste apparently.

Now, I'm wondering how the hell this site is having trouble paying its dues.
How many "resources" does it take to send an email? Believe it or not, you don't have to sacrifice a goat to get in touch with a company's PR department.

Edit: Mod ninja! That is your new nickname!
 

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I think the appropriate punishment for the programmer should be a slap round the back of the head and everyone getting on with their lives.
 

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Sparrow said:
Mr.Pandah said:
Hahaha that's pretty good. What? I can't laugh at this?
I'm kind of following this train of thought. As much as I'm not saying "yup, sexism is A-ok!" I am saying that it can be funny sometimes. Everything can be funny. What's the difference between making a joke about Canada and making a joke about feminists? Just because now suddenly it's not right? That's to say that making fun of Canada is totally fine. Seems like a way to make mountains out of molehills to me.
Welcome to the Escapist, home to the very mountainous region of molehills. Let's scream for the crucifixion of this guy simply because he had a non-PC joke thrown into some line of coding for a video game. We're so quick to pass judgement on people these days, even the people giving us the games we love to enjoy everyday.
 

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Much like other "equal rights" movements, feminism tends to follow the misguided notion that "equal" and "same" are the same thing.
 

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While this is..."unfortunate", I'd like to note that the joke, when associated with the ability, is on the whole, actually funny because of how ridiculously inappropriate it is. To be offended by this is to forget that life isn't PC and that trying to punish somebody for something that hasn't actually harmed anybody's perception of women is kind of crazy. If anything, it just makes it harder for men (especially those in the gaming industry) who constantly try to avoid having the woman abuser label slapped on them. However, I'd be perfectly fine with having "misogynistic pig" coded into something like, say, Duke Nukem.

It feels like they went out of their way to scold this guy about something that was never really intended to be part of the presentation of the product, and as "unprofessional" as it is to have left it in, I think that public opinion works too far in both directions to ever be considered just.

But yeah, he really should have kept that idea to himself.
 

Logan Westbrook

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prolefeedprocessor said:
Logan Westbrook said:
I'd imagine - or hope, at least - that this is some really, stupendously, dumb in-joke at Techland, and not indicative of someone's actual attitudes.
Putting aside personal opinions about feminism for a moment, I see statements like this a lot. Statements that boil down to "I hope he's joking". Do you really live in such a cultural bubble that the very idea of someone unironically having anti-feminist attitudes is absurd to you? Ivory tower, much?
Wait, you're attacking me over this? The mind boggles.

To answer your question, yes I can imagine someone being a dyed in the wool misogynist, but it seemed a lot more likely that it was just some private joke that no one was meant to see. And as it turns out that's exactly what it was, so my supposition wasn't all that unreasonable, was it?
 

The Lunatic

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I feel it a bit of an insult that, a guy is going to be punished for this mostly due to media outlets, like the escapist, overreacting to this kind of thing.

A development team has in jokes?

Really?

Not all of them are PC?

You don't say!

Seriously, it's like people getting up in a tiffy about Halo's .ass file errors.
 

Aureliano

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That's some pretty offensive language there for an in-joke even in the dev version. Worst part after its content? It's not funny, just mean. You bet there should be some consequences.