Steve Jobs has Passed Away!? (UPDATED)

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Capitano Segnaposto said:
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Yeah, many other people passed away too. Just because he is famous doesn't mean I should care for him more than anyone else.
Go without your PC, your MP3 Player, Your tablet (if you had one) and remove all those from your life. That is what would have happened in Steve Jobs didn't exist.

Okay, I am being a little over-dramatic however he was a revolutionary. Most of the things were thought of by him. They were perfected again and again by him. Others could have done it, however who knows. It could have taken years longer.
You really don't understand anything about computers do you?
 

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Bothered. :/

And forgive me if i somehow doubt steve jobs invented the iphone or ipod personally, Team's of speccy geeks getting payed peanuts compared to jobs must have spent years designing shit just for him to take credit for.
 

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NightHawk21 said:
Sad, but I don't know if I'ld put him on par with Thomas Edison like some of the articles are saying.
Edison was quite renowned as a ruthless businessman. Often taking an inferior product like direct current electricity and selling the hell out of it for a higher price while tirelessly attacking his competitors like Tesla with lies and half truths. Think back to those "I'm a PC" ads for a moment. Edison was quoted once in regards to the allegation that he stole patents or took credit for other people's inventions as saying that "The one that people will believe is the one who shouts the loudest.". Jobs was often noted for using advertising blitzes to make it appear that apple had invented a product such as mp3 players or tablet computers. So I guess in that respect they are similar. I'm not trying to be derisive mind you, just making a factual observation.

As for this news, that's unfortunate for Jobs. It looks like he should have been paying less attention to his company and more to his health. He left his CEO position way too late it seems. I neither liked him nor disliked him, frankly I didn't know him. But cancer is a lousy way to go. I'm assuming that was it.
 

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Well it's a real shame that he died, great man and all, but onto more pressing matters. Anyone know when the iFuneral app is coming out?
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
"So, today at Apple, we'd like to show you our latest creation. We think it's going to revolutionize, not just how we interact with each other, but the very way we all live our lives. We call it: iDead."

...I'm a terrible, terrible person.
Have a sense of decency will you?
 

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Very sad.

To be honest Steve Jobs always creeped me out a bit - there was just something about him that was half cult leader and half James Bond villain. But he was a major innovator, and more importantly dying of cancer at 56 is too soon for anyone. RIP.
 

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Peteron said:
Yeah, many other people passed away too. Just because he is famous doesn't mean I should care for him more than anyone else.
By that argument, you shouldn't care even if it was your mother that died. After all, she is just another person that passed away between many other people, right?

Listen, it's not about being famous or not being famous. It's about whether or not that person had a (positive) impact on your life in some way, and for almost anyone who has ever used any kind of modern electronics, Steve Jobs had an impact. For some people, a HUGE impact.

He has brought huge innovation to several markets. In fact, if you're just looking at the mobile market, i think that without Steve Jobs, the Smartphones and tablets we know today wouldn't be here for another 3-5 years. 3-5 years of delayed technology is absolutely huge, and i don't even want to think how MP3'players would look today if the iPod hadn't been invented.

In short: Steve Jobs brought great technology into my life, even if it in some cases wasn't Apple products since competition sparks innovation. So i care. And I'd be surprised if you haven't benefited from him as well, either directly or indirectly.
 

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Neronium said:
I just found out myself. Even if you aren't an Apple fanboy or a Mac user (PC person here), but Steve Jobs really did have quite an impact on our modern life more so than a lot of others. I mean with the IPod to the IPad, many if these things many of us have an have to thank Steve for helping to develop. Saying that he had no influence on contemporary life would be considerably false. It is sad to see that he has passed, but I have seen that his health was failing. Rest in peace Mr. Jobs, you will be missed.
His revolultion of the touch interface and the digital distribution markets won't be what defines him for thousands of years- It will be that he was the one that brought the graphical interface to the general population.
True, but what I meant by what I said was how nowadays it is common to see people walking around listening to their iPods or using their iPads. Heck, my local news station can be seen using their iPads while on the air. But what you said is probably more of his legacy than what I said.
 

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Capitano Segnaposto said:
Peteron said:
Yeah, many other people passed away too. Just because he is famous doesn't mean I should care for him more than anyone else.
Go without your PC, your MP3 Player, Your tablet (if you had one) and remove all those from your life. That is what would have happened in Steve Jobs didn't exist.

Okay, I am being a little over-dramatic however he was a revolutionary. Most of the things were thought of by him. They were perfected again and again by him. Others could have done it, however who knows. It could have taken years longer.
You do realize apple didn't do ANY of those first. Just slapped a shiny logo on it and called it "magical".

OT: I personally don't really care. He's like everyone else but he's rich and has fanboys. He's like the 108 other people that died while I was typing this. But he owns a mansion so I guess he's better right?
 

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Neronium said:
brainslurper said:
Neronium said:
I just found out myself. Even if you aren't an Apple fanboy or a Mac user (PC person here), but Steve Jobs really did have quite an impact on our modern life more so than a lot of others. I mean with the IPod to the IPad, many if these things many of us have an have to thank Steve for helping to develop. Saying that he had no influence on contemporary life would be considerably false. It is sad to see that he has passed, but I have seen that his health was failing. Rest in peace Mr. Jobs, you will be missed.
His revolultion of the touch interface and the digital distribution markets won't be what defines him for thousands of years- It will be that he was the one that brought the graphical interface to the general population.
True, but what I meant by what I said was how nowadays it is common to see people walking around listening to their iPods or using their iPads. Heck, my local news station can be seen using their iPads while on the air. But what you said is probably more of his legacy than what I said.
I agree. What you said was more of his influence on the world today and what I said was more about his contribution to humanity as a whole.
 

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gabe12301 said:
Capitano Segnaposto said:
Peteron said:
Yeah, many other people passed away too. Just because he is famous doesn't mean I should care for him more than anyone else.
Go without your PC, your MP3 Player, Your tablet (if you had one) and remove all those from your life. That is what would have happened in Steve Jobs didn't exist.

Okay, I am being a little over-dramatic however he was a revolutionary. Most of the things were thought of by him. They were perfected again and again by him. Others could have done it, however who knows. It could have taken years longer.
You do realize apple didn't do ANY of those first. Just slapped a shiny logo on it and called it "magical".

OT: I personally don't really care. He's like everyone else but he's rich and has fanboys. He's like the 108 other people that died while I was typing this. But he owns a mansion so I guess he's better right?
Because being the first person to distribute a computer with a graphical interface = he just slapped a logo on it and called it a day, right? As much as you want to deny it, he is one of the most important people in the history of technology, and he will be remembered as such for a long, long time.
 

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Even thought the iphone and ipod were the only products I could stand to use (don't like Mac) its still sad. True pioneer of consumer computer products.
 

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Athinira said:
By that argument, you shouldn't care even if it was your mother that died. After all, she is just another person that passed away, right?
Not really. Because to him, his mother is not just "another person". He's saying he had no personal connection to Jobs. You must be a computer at some university that does not understand humans that well. Further evidence compounding this would seem to be that you equate Steve Jobs to a mother. It's okay computer, I will explain for you how humans work. You see, people tend to form emotional connections to those they know personally. It is unlikely he will care more simply because you demand it. If you wanted to get literal about it however computer, it's unlikely his mother is anyone famous. You must have been programmed for melodrama, computer.

For that matter, did he really have a positive impact, computer? So you like his products, perhaps you are even one of them, and yet people report that they feel they have fewer real friends than ever.
http://www.robertnotter.com/articles/quality-relationships.pdf

Sorry to be snarky, but your response was well, odd.
 

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Funny I thought he was doing just fine. How sudden. What will become of the company now? Sometimes when the founders of a company dies the whole thing changes. Just look at what cartoon network was before the founders died. Now look at it afterwards. There are some real differences.
Question: What Founders are you talking about? Hannah-Barbera? im just curious

OT: I have never owned an apple product but I respect the man and I am sad to see him go.
Yeah those people but a couple others. People like chuck jones and tex avery and a couple other people made up a lot of the old cartoons that got cartoon network up and running with a large host of cartoons for the viewers to watch. Once they started disappearing the network began to shift away from the old cartoons to cartoon network originals. And then when those went away. Well watch cartoon network right now. That's what happened.
 

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Sleekit said:
erztez said:
PC...no, he stole that from someone else
assuming you mean the "modern" OS and not "the PC" which even my cat could tell you was invented at IBM...

wikipedia said:
In January 1981, Steve Jobs completely took over the Macintosh project. Jobs and a number of Apple engineers visited Xerox PARC in December 1979, three months after the Lisa and Macintosh projects had begun. After hearing about the pioneering GUI technology being developed at Xerox PARC from former Xerox employees like Raskin, Jobs negotiated a visit to see the Xerox Alto computer and Smalltalk development tools in exchange for Apple stock options. The final Lisa and Macintosh operating systems mostly used concepts from the Xerox Alto, but many elements of the graphical user interface were created by Apple including the menubar, pop-up menus and the concepts of drag and drop and direct manipulation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_history#Early_history

erztez said:
Jobs was no revolutionary. He was good at marketing, I'll give him that, but the man never had an original thought.
wikipedia said:
Jobs is listed as either primary inventor or co-inventor in 338 US patents or patent applications related to a range of technologies from actual computer and portable devices to user interfaces (including touch-based), speakers, keyboards, power adapters, staircases, clasps, sleeves, lanyards and packages.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs#Inventions
Thanks for proving my point there...coming up with a new way to open the trunk doesn't mean you invented the car.

For your second point, trying to trademark the letter "i" doesn't mean you invented it.
The US patent law is insane and always has been.
 

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brainslurper said:
Because being the first person to distribute a computer with a graphical interface = he just slapped a logo on it and called it a day, right? As much as you want to deny it, he is one of the most important people in the history of technology, and he will be remembered as such for a long, long time.
Actually, yes. That's exactly what that means. Especially if you achieve said primacy by stealing the idea and patenting it before the real creators can.
I don't deny Jobs was one of the most important people in the history of technology, but then so was Pope Gregory IX(look it up). Just because you're "important", doesn't make you necessary... or helpful.