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The only way to stop being an outcast is to hide your true self and *shudders* become part of the pack. I am an outcast myself..very few people in my school understand me. No one understands me fully.
 

matrix3509

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You can take solace in this fact: You are WAY more likely to be more successful than the bullies ever will be.

5 years after you graduate, go to the grocery store and they will still be there. You will then be allowed to say, "That's right, bag my groceries, *****."
 

Krakyn

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I can give you two possible solutions:

1. Accept yourself - tell the people who pick on you that you like who you are. You like to read, and they're all insecure d-bags for picking on somebody a little different from them.

2. Change yourself - if you don't like the way you are, try to do things differently. Instead of reading during class, talk a little. Don't force it, though, because then you'll just seem desperate. Try to play it cool, smooth, zen; grow your hair out a little. If you wear big glasses, switch to contacts. Join a club with the popular kids who don't pick on you, then the ones who do will treat you less badly when they see interaction.
 

Haliwali

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Well, I have the perk of hanging out with people with similar interests as me, and getting along reasonably with those I don't. For everyone else, I either ignore them or treat them as they treaty me. The golden rule works both ways.
 

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TheNecroswanson said:
Hit someone with a bat. That'll earn you some respect.
I endorse this statement.

But no, really. Unless you want to lie to yourself, don't change anything. You'll meet some people who accept you for who you are.

However, a tip to not being an outcast would be not asking a ton of strangers for advice over the intarwebz.
 

Fronken

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Best advice i can give is to find the biggest douche who's really pestering you, and beating the crap out of him, kick him in the balls repeatadly, then a kick or two to the stomach, make sure he goes down and stays down, i mean really go all out on the f*cker, sure, you'll get in trouble for it, but if you really beat the shit out of him, they wont bother you again.
 

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matrix3509 said:
You can take solace in this fact: You are WAY more likely to be more successful than the bullies ever will be.

5 years after you graduate, go to the grocery store and they will still be there. You will then be allowed to say, "That's right, bag my groceries, *****."
This exact same thing happened to my Bro. He was an outcast and had a terrible High School career, but he went off to college. When he came back home for the summer one year he went to the grocery store and sure enough....there was one of the assholes bagging his groceries. That must have been an awesome feeling.

Also High School is a totally fresh start, at least it was for me. 8th grade was awful and I was really down most of the time. But now I'm half way through 9th grade and happier than ever. If you're already in High School and still being picked on, then just be yourself. I know it sounds cliche, but for a while I change the way I normally acted hoping it would help my social standings. It did absolutely nothing, but now in High School I'm just going with who I am and speaking my mind. Life has become so much better.
 

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matrix3509 said:
You can take solace in this fact: You are WAY more likely to be more successful than the bullies ever will be.

5 years after you graduate, go to the grocery store and they will still be there. You will then be allowed to say, "That's right, bag my groceries, *****."
QFT..and hilarity
 

Calobi

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TheNecroswanson said:
Hit someone with a bat. That'll earn you some respect.
I use a chain. The chain of command. I hit people with it until they know who's in command. As is apparently custom here, cookie for whoever gets the reference.

On topic:
Just keep your head down and find some others who like to actually do what they have to to succeed. Then, when you're all going to college or whatever, mock all the dropouts who made your lives miserable. May take awhile, but it is oh so sweet.
 

goodman528

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Cortheya said:
I'll admit..I'm a loser and a geek
That being said, I'm a huge outcast at school. I had a few friends but even those are starting to desert me. I'm made fun of and ridiculed constantly for such things as reading rather than talking during class when work is done. People will go out of their way to trip me, punch me, and make fun of me. Needless to say I want this to end.
So I'd like to know, what can I do to stop all of this from happening and stop being an outcast.
Get a hobby. Learn to play some sport or musical instrument. If you are not physical, then a skill based sport that's relatively popular in your school, say, cricket, baseball, or badminton / tennis. Ignore the dicks, don't let them get to you there'll always be people like that. You are not trying to make those dicks like you, just target the normal people who are the majority. This is slow, but it works.

A faster solution would be to get a broken bottle / half a brick / piece of furniture, go round to the houses of the couple of leading bullies, and beat them senseless. Don't even listen to whatever they say to you, just strike them down as soon as they answer the door. And make sure they will be going to school with plaster castes for the next few weeks, because it's the effect of the example that's important here. Trust me, if you are fearless, and put life and death out of your mind, and you strike first, you will win.
 

matrix3509

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ZomgSharkz said:
matrix3509 said:
You can take solace in this fact: You are WAY more likely to be more successful than the bullies ever will be.

5 years after you graduate, go to the grocery store and they will still be there. You will then be allowed to say, "That's right, bag my groceries, *****."
This exact same thing happened to my Bro. He was an outcast and had a terrible High School career, but he went off to college. When he came back home for the summer one year he went to the grocery store and sure enough....there was one of the assholes bagging his groceries. That must have been an awesome feeling.

Also High School is a totally fresh start, at least it was for me. 8th grade was awful and I was really down most of the time. But now I'm half way through 9th grade and happier than ever. If you're already in High School and still being picked on, then just be yourself. I know it sounds cliche, but for a while I change the way I normally acted hoping it would help my social standings. It did absolutely nothing, but now in High School I'm just going with who I am and speaking my mind. Life has become so much better.
Thats the best advice anyone can give. If you are smarter than those dumbshit bullies, don't be afraid to talk them into a corner. They will know in their hearts that they can't compete with you intellectually. When I was in high school, I did this, everyone knew I was smarter, and therefore superior to those bullies. They tried to assert their dominance with little petty things like tripping me, etc., but again, everyone who sees this knows its just petty bullshit.

I however had a bully who took his inferiority complex way too far. He picked a fight with me. He literally got me into a corner and tried to pummel me into submitting to his dominance. I was taught by my parents to never ever back down from a fight, so I didn't. I fought him, yeah I was pummeled pretty squarely, but I probably would have rather died than compromise who I was. I took it, I got suspended, had the suspension rescinded the same day.

The fact is, that even if you lose a fight you didn't start with some bully, the masses will respect you because you didn't compromise who you are in the face of some dumbshit bully that uses his fists to (not-so) solve his problems. As a plus, everyone will know that said bully, had to resort to physical violence against someone weaker than him, in order to prove his dominance.

I guess the moral of my story is that you should never try to change who you are. In fact you should revel in who you are, and make no apologies.

Edit: An addendum to my story, the fight happened during my sophomore year, against a senior, no less. By my senior year, I was known as The IT Guy. I spent more time in the computer lab and fixing other teacher's computers than in any of my classes. Looking back, I should have started demanding a paycheck.
 

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you sound a little insecure...don't be. You have the potential to be whatever you choose. grit your teeth, bear it a little longer. It's tough, I know. I've been there. but as time goes by the jokes will lessen and the hitting will stop.
 

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Calobi said:
TheNecroswanson said:
Hit someone with a bat. That'll earn you some respect.
I use a chain. The chain of command. I hit people with it until they know who's in command. As is apparently custom here, cookie for whoever gets the reference.

On topic:
Just keep your head down and find some others who like to actually do what they have to to succeed. Then, when you're all going to college or whatever, mock all the dropouts who made your lives miserable. May take awhile, but it is oh so sweet.

FIREFLY! Thank you...


Im Sorry OP, but I have no idea what you are going through, I offer my simpathies though.

Perhaps just talking more? In my experiance people put up a shell that is against openess, and if you get past that, they are nice... genreally...
 

santaandy

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Hangman said:
Getting "jacked" is one way to go but at the end of the day is that who you really are?
Remember, who you are on the outside and inside are two different things. Improving your physique does not necessitate a degeneration of your personality. A strong physique is good for your health (pretty effective in fighting off the common viruses that are always making their rounds) as well as being a bully-deterrent.

I would discourage you from becoming violent, but self-defense is a basic human right; don't be afraid to use it. When people know you won't let them walk all over you, things will improve. Then, you can graduate, go off to university/college, and be with the kind of people you want to be with, and life will be better. That is a future that really is worth waiting for. But you shouldn't have to suffer in the meantime.

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I find the best way is to defeat them socially. Read Machiavelli's The Prince and Sun Tzu's The Art of War, both are excellent examples of how to defeat someone non-violently (and for those of you who would consider me wrong I assert that you didn't really understand those books). Make them look stupid or incompetent, or make them the butt of the joke, or turn the social tide against them. The key is to make sure no one can perceive it as being your fault or on your instigation. If the goons destroy themselves, they won't have you to blame. If they have you to blame, they aren't likely to stop bullying you.

The crowd will side with the victor, whether the victory be physical or social. True, it's a hollow victory, and those people are probably not people you will like back - but it beats facing their social antagonism yourself, doesn't it?
 

Guitarmasterx7

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no clue man. work out maybe? I dunno. I always kind of put myself above all that social status BS but then again noone really bothered me because of it so I assume I was somewhere in the middle.