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AvroLancaster

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I think that the word liberal is misused criminally in the United States. Meanwhile in the commonwealth it is usually only used as an alternative to "Social Democrat" and "Conservative."

This bothers me because I am a liberal, I believe that the only guiding principle behind any law is to increase the freedom of a citizen.

Classical Liberalism is a right wing philosophy that gets a hard on for the free market. Most American "conservatives" are either lunatics who believe that the "In God We Trust" on their money means that their country was actually secretly intended to be a theocracy, or are in fact classical liberals. Ronald Reagan was not a conservative, he was a classical liberal.

Reform Liberalism is an umbrella term for not the above. This is where I and most modern liberals (who are not mislabeled social democrats) fall in. We believe, like a classical liberal, that your freedom ends only where my freedom begins and that my freedom ends where your freedom begins. We also believe that if you are wage slaving at McDonald's and living in a cardboard box with no prospects that doesn't qualify as free. The goals of private enterprise are often counter to the well being (again, in a freedom-centric sense) of the population. The government needs to serve as a sentinel, a watchdog that with perfect vigilance and the tenacity of a hawk must guard the freedoms of its people from external threats as well as from both itself and from those that would erode the freedoms of its people from within.

Liberalism is the philosophy that protects the liberty of its people, reform liberalism is the philosophy that adds compassion into the equation and, in my belief, is the most rational choice for any society.

This is my original post, an appeal to Americans and commonwealthers alike, please do not misuse this word, because you are probably a liberal of some sorts deep down and you should look into Liberal parties as viable logical options that wish to see democracy function as it was meant to since its inception.
 

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It's completely original and yet to tread any site other than YouTube. And TELL ME WHETHER I SHOULD FINISH IT YOU HEATHEN SCUM
 

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I don't believe in either the Big Bang theory or Creationalism. I think it's impossible for there to be an actual beginning to the universe, but we humans are firmly entrenched in the belief that everything must have a beginning, a middle and an end.
 

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Sneaky Paladin said:
zehydra said:
Sneaky Paladin said:
I am the mortal representation of insanity, no matter how much you care it shall have no effect on me the fact that I exist is just the first sign that something is extremely wrong with everything. It does not matter how hard you try to make sense of it all there are just some things that if you try to rationalize all rationality you previously believed you had will slowly be destroyed beneath the overpowering realization that sense is entirely optional when I exist and the only thing keeping you connected to it is the mere fact that everyone else seems to be connected to it as well but then you let go of it all and your life becomes that much more.


I am almost certain no one has ever wrote that paragraph before, maybe they came close but NO ONE has ever copied it word for word.
I just did with this quote.

lol.

Anyhoo,

I made an NES style video game where you play Kurt Cobain, and each level is set to an 8-bit version of a Nirvana song.


Alas, I am not a very experienced pixel artist.
Aha but I am still original, you're just the rip-off which is the ultimate sign of originality, having a rip-off.
true, true. However, if you read the rest of my post, you'll find that I added this extra sentence so as not to receive a warning about low content from the mods.
 

TheEarthSheep

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Edit: Figured out that I accidentally posted this twice. Woops.

Also, I can't find a delete button, so I'm forced to assume there isn't one. which is a problem...
 

spartan231490

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zehydra said:
spartan231490 said:
Justice is a myth. Think about it, it works two ways. The idea that somehow, there is an equilibrium, 'Karma', so to speak, is ludicrous. Newborn babies, who have never done anything wrong die, unable to earn any kind of good luck in exchange. Murderers walk free, and innocent men die by lethal injection.

The second way it works, is that no government can pursue any kind of true justice. No matter what you do, guilty men will walk free, and innocent men will be punished, and even if that weren't the case. I seriously doubt that even going so far as killing a murderer is any kind of justice, the victim is dead, and nothing will bring them back, and the family will not get to see them again just because the person who did it is dead. The only justifiable purpose for law is to prevent actions which harm members of the populace, I.E. crime, so law's purpose should be deterrence, not justice. Justice is the realm of God, not Men, any man made justice is nothing but a myth.

Pretty sure that's original. You caught me at a good time with this thread, this is a rather recent thought of mine, in another month I will likely have forgotten it, if the past is any indication.
I think what you mean is that complete justice doesn't exist, not that justice doesn't exist. Some notion of justice has to exist, otherwise you wouldn't realize what was unjust. It's kind of like how Goodness can only exist if there is Evil/badness to differentiate from.
No, I meant what I said. Justice is a myth. It has been conceptualized, but it doesn't exist(at least not in this life. I have no authority to claim anything about what may or may not come after). Partial justice doesn't exist either.

Justice is just a word thrown about to give moral authority to a punishment. However, punishment needs no moral authority beyond being a deterrent of similar undesirable actions from others. As for us knowing when something is unjust, we don't.

We can't know how any action will balance on the scales of universal 'justice.' A man kills a child, sounds unjust, but maybe that kid would one day grow to be a mass-murderer, or a child molester. We can't know that that action was unjust, or even evil. but we still have the moral authority, as a society, to punish that action, because killing a person is usually going to be a bad thing for society, and because if it is a common occurrence, panic and fear will endanger the lives of everyone.

'Unjust' is almost always used to describe something that was evil or cruel, not even things which our society considers to be 'unjust.' At least, that's what my experience tells me.
 

zehydra

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smudgey said:
I don't believe in either the Big Bang theory or Creationalism. I think it's impossible for there to be an actual beginning to the universe, but we humans are firmly entrenched in the belief that everything must have a beginning, a middle and an end.
and of course the scientist will then proceed to say you are irrational for not accepting what many of them treat as "proven".

and then the priest will then proceed to say you are faithless, and that you need to be saved.

I admire your position.
 

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There's no such thing as Road Rage. Everybody just has varying degrees of Road Intolerance for Stupidity. Those who don't; are the stupid ones. (Yes I did come up with that while driving)
 

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The flying 6 legged whales were at war with the unicorns. Unfortunately the gnomes and dwarves kidnapped a rich business man, who made the unicorns only weakness. Brownies. Thus destroying Unicorns forever and having the whales, dwarves and gnomes rule over the land.
 

DarkhoIlow

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Post something "original" about myself.Hmm,that's a tough one but:

I think in english rather than my native language(romanian)and I'm having trouble translating specific words in romanian when I'm talking with my friends/family.Damn you video games! =P
 

spartan231490

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Grey Walker said:
I want you to think real hard about this: What do you want to do? Not in the immediate sense, but in your life. Who do you want to affect? How do you want to affect them? Why?

Now think: What are you doing to accomplish this? Is your life going to a place that will enable it? If not, then why?

Find a goal and pursue it. Think when you make a statement. Accept the possibility that you may be wrong and someone else is right. Be willing to change your beliefs based on facts and well reasoned arguments. Do not fall victim to popular opinion. Think and measure your opinions of something, and make choices unique to you.

Regardless of the state of your life, relations, or even the world, you are in control of how you act. Take responsibility for everything you do. Blaming something else removes your ability to make a change.

And fight anyone who would take this from you.
I want to say, thank you. Sincerely. I have a lot of goals in my life that, for a plethora of reasons, haven't quite come together, and I often feel a little depressed about that, especially lately. This isn't a sob story, this is to say that that is all irrelevant because I accomplish my greatest goal in life several times a week, and that my immediate failures have done nothing to impede my greater goal. Thank you for reminding me of that in the first part of this post.

I also agree with the last part of your post. A lot. I may quote this many times throughout my life, as it is a very poetic way of saying it. However, I do sometimes think that the greatest thing we can accomplish is to just let go of our goals for a few hours or a few days and just enjoy life, so I do not agree with the middle part of your post unconditionally.
 

zehydra

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spartan231490 said:
zehydra said:
spartan231490 said:
Justice is a myth. Think about it, it works two ways. The idea that somehow, there is an equilibrium, 'Karma', so to speak, is ludicrous. Newborn babies, who have never done anything wrong die, unable to earn any kind of good luck in exchange. Murderers walk free, and innocent men die by lethal injection.

The second way it works, is that no government can pursue any kind of true justice. No matter what you do, guilty men will walk free, and innocent men will be punished, and even if that weren't the case. I seriously doubt that even going so far as killing a murderer is any kind of justice, the victim is dead, and nothing will bring them back, and the family will not get to see them again just because the person who did it is dead. The only justifiable purpose for law is to prevent actions which harm members of the populace, I.E. crime, so law's purpose should be deterrence, not justice. Justice is the realm of God, not Men, any man made justice is nothing but a myth.

Pretty sure that's original. You caught me at a good time with this thread, this is a rather recent thought of mine, in another month I will likely have forgotten it, if the past is any indication.
I think what you mean is that complete justice doesn't exist, not that justice doesn't exist. Some notion of justice has to exist, otherwise you wouldn't realize what was unjust. It's kind of like how Goodness can only exist if there is Evil/badness to differentiate from.
No, I meant what I said. Justice is a myth. It has been conceptualized, but it doesn't exist(at least not in this life. I have no authority to claim anything about what may or may not come after). Partial justice doesn't exist either.

Justice is just a word thrown about to give moral authority to a punishment. However, punishment needs no moral authority beyond being a deterrent of similar undesirable actions from others. As for us knowing when something is unjust, we don't.

We can't know how any action will balance on the scales of universal 'justice.' A man kills a child, sounds unjust, but maybe that kid would one day grow to be a mass-murderer, or a child molester. We can't know that that action was unjust, or even evil. but we still have the moral authority, as a society, to punish that action, because killing a person is usually going to be a bad thing for society, and because if it is a common occurrence, panic and fear will endanger the lives of everyone.

'Unjust' is almost always used to describe something that was evil or cruel, not even things which our society considers to be 'unjust.' At least, that's what my experience tells me.
ok, I get what you're saying. You're saying that Justice doesn't manifest itself in this reality, but that the concept of Justice as an absolute idea does in fact exist. We just don't (and perhaps can't) really know what executed Justice would look like, and therefore all justice systems that exist today are not really justice systems at all, but failed attempts.

Your view differs from another view of justice: That justice is not necessarily a concrete idea, but something to work towards. Like you said, Unjust is used to describe something evil or cruel, and likewise, Just is used to describe something which would be the opposite or retribution for evil or cruelty. Think about all of the many different kinds of moralities out there, and how people's opinions on what is evil or cruel differ.

The Justice system doesn't exist to establish some kind of ultimate, pure justice, the kind you say doesn't exist, but rather is there to establish some kind of moral order in the lack of over-arching objective morality.
 

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The year was 1967, when Hovering Camels were all the rage. The king of space Sir Leonald had just become Prime Minister of the United States of Britain and all the dinosaur mounts the world had encountered suddenly vanished, abducted by a space time warphole.
 

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I am the only person that I know am 100% trustworthy, 100% controllable, and 100% true. Everyone, everything, that I encounter, could be an illusion. All others could be animals simply placed here to view my reaction by some higher being, or (in a more "government conspiracy" fashion) they could be robots or contolled devices meant to react in certain ways to each and every one of my statements. I only know of my sentience, because that is the only one I know is under my control. Everything I ever do could be meticulously planned out so I could experience it, and I'd never know it. Maybe my life is a gigantic simulation, and when I die I'll wake up out of the simulation booth as a completely different being. But regardless of all that, I accept everything around me to be real, because no truer sense of reality exists. And if some greater presence were controlling the events around me, I need to do my best to satisfy that control; what else can I do besides that if it was my purpose? Anyway, I hope whoever read this enjoyed it.
 
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Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
My friend and I have an inside joke involving a (completely fictional) action film known as "Car-Fist 2: The Final Fisting". It's about a cop named Jack Car-Fist. He has cars for fists and doesn't play by the rules. I'm honestly not sure how we came up with it, but I'm almost positive the name "Jack Carfist" was stolen from Loading Ready Run.
This is one of those rare times in my laugh life where I actually genuinely lol'd at something I saw on the internet. It could just be the sleep deprivation though.

You remind me a lot of my friend and I who come up with weird shit like that and giggle for hours. For example, we came up with a character called Dr. Tabernacle Head, who is a lecturer for religious studies who wears a tabernacle [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_tabernacle] over his head, and he's like this psychotic monster that they have to chain to the front of the lecture hall, and then begin the lecture by carefully opening the door of the tabernacle with a long pole with a hook on it. And as soon as the door opens and he sees everyone he just shouts "FFFGGHHHHAAA! BLLLARRGHGHH!" and tries to break out of his shackles for an hour, but he's still considered one of the best religious studies lecturers there is.
 

spartan231490

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zehydra said:
spartan231490 said:
zehydra said:
spartan231490 said:
Justice is a myth. Think about it, it works two ways. The idea that somehow, there is an equilibrium, 'Karma', so to speak, is ludicrous. Newborn babies, who have never done anything wrong die, unable to earn any kind of good luck in exchange. Murderers walk free, and innocent men die by lethal injection.

The second way it works, is that no government can pursue any kind of true justice. No matter what you do, guilty men will walk free, and innocent men will be punished, and even if that weren't the case. I seriously doubt that even going so far as killing a murderer is any kind of justice, the victim is dead, and nothing will bring them back, and the family will not get to see them again just because the person who did it is dead. The only justifiable purpose for law is to prevent actions which harm members of the populace, I.E. crime, so law's purpose should be deterrence, not justice. Justice is the realm of God, not Men, any man made justice is nothing but a myth.

Pretty sure that's original. You caught me at a good time with this thread, this is a rather recent thought of mine, in another month I will likely have forgotten it, if the past is any indication.
I think what you mean is that complete justice doesn't exist, not that justice doesn't exist. Some notion of justice has to exist, otherwise you wouldn't realize what was unjust. It's kind of like how Goodness can only exist if there is Evil/badness to differentiate from.
No, I meant what I said. Justice is a myth. It has been conceptualized, but it doesn't exist(at least not in this life. I have no authority to claim anything about what may or may not come after). Partial justice doesn't exist either.

Justice is just a word thrown about to give moral authority to a punishment. However, punishment needs no moral authority beyond being a deterrent of similar undesirable actions from others. As for us knowing when something is unjust, we don't.

We can't know how any action will balance on the scales of universal 'justice.' A man kills a child, sounds unjust, but maybe that kid would one day grow to be a mass-murderer, or a child molester. We can't know that that action was unjust, or even evil. but we still have the moral authority, as a society, to punish that action, because killing a person is usually going to be a bad thing for society, and because if it is a common occurrence, panic and fear will endanger the lives of everyone.

'Unjust' is almost always used to describe something that was evil or cruel, not even things which our society considers to be 'unjust.' At least, that's what my experience tells me.
ok, I get what you're saying. You're saying that Justice doesn't manifest itself in this reality, but that the concept of Justice as an absolute idea does in fact exist. We just don't (and perhaps can't) really know what executed Justice would look like, and therefore all justice systems that exist today are not really justice systems at all, but failed attempts.

Your view differs from another view of justice: That justice is not necessarily a concrete idea, but something to work towards. Like you said, Unjust is used to describe something evil or cruel, and likewise, Just is used to describe something which would be the opposite or retribution for evil or cruelty. Think about all of the many different kinds of moralities out there, and how people's opinions on what is evil or cruel differ.

The Justice system doesn't exist to establish some kind of ultimate, pure justice, the kind you say doesn't exist, but rather is there to establish some kind of moral order in the lack of over-arching objective morality.
Which is exactly my point. "Government is just a body of people, usually notably, ungoverned." The government has no business telling me what to believe or what is right or wrong. That's God's job. Government should stop claiming to bring about justice and just be honest about what they're doing, because what they are doing is far more important and morally justifiable than imposing a morality on their people. What they are doing is maintaining order and safety for the populace, a necessary and worthy goal, that should not be hidden behind vain and useless attempts to mimic omnipotence. Perhaps I should modify it. Justice on Earth is a myth.