Stop Trying To Challenge Call of Duty

[phantasmalWordsmith]

I like CoD, Ive just never been to good at it so I don't play it so much. still, every so often i have a poke around the spec-ops.

And I agree, as far as realistic shooters go, CoDs the best of the litter

 

[Sephychu]

Killzone 2's controls never really bothered me.

I love the game, much more than I do the Call of Duty series.

 

[Jkudo]

I like killzone 2's controls....really hope they don't change it.
If someone wants to make a military shooter, they will be compared to Cod. If they want it to sell well they will probably make it resemble cod. They just have to make it better, nothing is perfect, especially cod because it just doesn't appeal to me.

 

[RUINER ACTUAL]

First off, CoD4 and WaW were its prime. MW2 was forced on IW to make money. God forbid a successful studio want to make an original IP. Second, I'm not a communist, so I think competition is good. I don't want to be playing a new CoD year after year when the core gameplay hasn't changed much since CoD4. I think BC2 and MoH are both great, fun games. I can't wait for the free DLC and patches for MoH that will fix the game and make it more fun. And the BC2 DLC that will bring it to a new era and be awesome. If you think they should stop "challenging CoD" you are a fanboy and a retard.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

All realistic war-time shooters should die.

Well then im happy that CoD series never was realistic.

You've obviously never played the early games have you? In CoD 1 and UO expansion you had static health and had to use med kits and when you got shot in the right arm(or either arm it has been awhile) you dropped your gun. A rifle shot to the chest did not kill and various other things.

OT: It is my opinion on whether or not I think CoD is good and with the way it went with MW2 like screwing over orignial fanbase by cutting out features that have been in it since day one shows me that at that time the driving force behind the game had no consumer loyalty. So given that no consumers = no franchise then yes our opinions on such matters are quite important regardless of what anyone thinks of various boycotts and I do talk with my wallet when it comes to companies.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

Actually, I prefer Bad Company 2 to Call of Duty, by a long shot. Bad Company doesn't take itself as seriously and while it's story may not be it's strongest aspect, it certainly succeeds where Modern Warfare 2 failed. The only difference between Call of Duty and Bad Company is the pace of the action, but that's not really saying much given the fact that both games may as well just be rail shooters with there repetitive game play.

 

[Space Spoons]

I think you've hit the nail on the head. The bottom line is that the big names are the big names because, despite what you may hear to the contrary, they're the best at what they do. WoW dominates the MMO market because no one does medieval RPG better (except maybe EverQuest). Halo dominates the space marine market because no one does the futuristic FPS genre better. Final Fantasy dominates the JRPG market because no one does the overwrought, giant hair drama genre better. By that token, Call of Duty dominates the modern warfare market because no one does modern warfare better.

Things could change. There was a time when Doom was king and regenerating health/shields would have been seen as cheating. As it is now, though, CoD is likely to stay on top, just like the others.

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

Judging by everyone's reactions, I'm gonna go ahead and say that we have a very successful troll here.

Also, Halo is better. So is Bioshock.

 

[Kryzantine]

First off, CoD4 and WaW were its prime. MW2 was forced on IW to make money. God forbid a successful studio want to make an original IP. Second, I'm not a communist, so I think competition is good. I don't want to be playing a new CoD year after year when the core gameplay hasn't changed much since CoD4. I think BC2 and MoH are both great, fun games. I can't wait for the free DLC and patches for MoH that will fix the game and make it more fun. And the BC2 DLC that will bring it to a new era and be awesome. If you think they should stop "challenging CoD" you are a fanboy and a retard.

P much this.

Even if other games don't come nearly as close to challenging a particular brand that's at the top of that market (and the MMO market is a PRIME example of this, since WoW is miles ahead of every other MMO out there), games should never stop trying to challenge it. That defeats the point of a market.

And unfortunately, the point that, "popular products are popular because they're good" ideology is outdated. Marketing research has dominated the last 20 years. They did studies in the 90s and 00s to model consumer behavior so marketers could learn how to make people want them more. You can make a mediocre product look great if you throw money and brain power at it. CoD no longer has to be the best shooter on the market to be the most successful.

And if nobody challenges CoD, then it can dumb down even further and people will still buy it. The overall market suffers as a result.

 

[Tdc2182]

battlefield bad company 2 is better. in my own opinion of course.

Whether each one is better than the other is irrelevant. They are nothing alike in any way.

OT: CoD is the most popular game out there. Unfortunately, like with all popular things, douchebags hear about it. There is nothing wrong with the game (besides spawns and commando) but there is a huge problem with the community. Its full of idiots. Who for some reason, can't play the game the way its suppose to be played. Even when the cheap ways are not fun at all.

How is the aiming a chore, I've played most of the Call of duty series, Killzone 2 and both Bad company 1 and 2. There is little to no difference between them, especially with Bad company.

Have you played the game? Its the reason that turned me off of it, and now its only fun to go back to when I rage quit CoD.

The controls are terrible and clunky. Its a sacrifice the game has to make for the 30 FPS so they can get the great explosions everywhere vibe.

Not so much the aiming, its the whole moving around experience. Half the time I try walking into a doorway I end up hitting the side and can't get in. Its a very immersion breaking experience when you have to constantly be concerned and trying to get a feel of the controls for the game. I am a level 25(?) and I still have problems with the movement in that game. That shouldn't be acceptable.

But right now I haven't played either game for a few weeks, and I am really getting the craving for some BC2. Say what you will about the game, but the pistol action in that game is sexy.

And Protip: If you are only using the burst fire Raffica, you are missin out.

 

[xDHxD148L0]

If CoD is the best multiplayer shooters have to offer then the industry needs help.

MW2 is the most unbalanced multiplayer game I've ever played, as well as being glitch-ridden and including an essentially broken-by-design matchmaking system.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

I suppose if you like realism that isn't realistic, completely broken weapons and perks and a community that is filled with screaming five year old's screaming about what a fag you are, CoD has amazing multiplayer.

 

[Dana22]

All realistic war-time shooters should die.

Well then im happy that CoD series never was realistic.

You've obviously never played the early games have you? In CoD 1 and UO expansion you had static health and had to use med kits and when you got shot in the right arm(or either arm it has been awhile) you dropped your gun. A rifle shot to the chest did not kill and various other things.

Thank you for proving my point.

And yeah, I played every Cod.

 

[Woodsey]

All realistic war-time shooters should die.

Well then im happy that CoD series never was realistic.

You've obviously never played the early games have you? In CoD 1 and UO expansion you had static health and had to use med kits and when you got shot in the right arm(or either arm it has been awhile) you dropped your gun. A rifle shot to the chest did not kill and various other things.

That's not CoD.

 

[Continuity]

COD has just well, nailed it. At least, better than anyone else really has.

Wrong, Oh so wrong, on every level.

COD is COD, it excels at being COD... It is not however the be all and end of FPS - it's not even a particularly great FPS. It is just one tiny niche of a huge and exciting genre.

However you do have something of a point, publishers and developers constantly try to hop on the bandwagon of a successful game and constantly serve us up crap in the process. That is seriously annoying when they could be spending their time making original and unique games. Instead they waste the best talent in the industry plus most of the industries funding churning out copycat games because they know they will sell.

 

[TerranReaper]

>mfw people call COD realistic

Seriously, if you think COD is remotely realistic, I would kindly ask you to play the ArmA series/Operation Flashpoint and then tell me that COD is realistic.

Now that's out of the way, the story in MW2 was horrible beyond belief. COD4 did okay in its story, at least being somewhat interesting but MW2 just went too far in being flashy with its explosions.

 

[Snotnarok]

Not every game that does a modern shooter is a copy of MW2, lets be honest here how long do you think they were going to live in WW2?

Bad Company 2 is far from a copy of CoD considering the game is a battlefield/large map and not a square maze. There's elements that they share like they're both in modern times and you can only take a few hits but that's where the similarities end. And if you disagree you haven't played it or played it enough to see that.

MoH is an attempt at copying it but what do you want? Companies copy what's popular, Dantes Inferno copied everything from God Of War, most mmos ape WoW, Saints row copied GTA (and improved it). Obvious rip-offs don't do as well and often those inspired by something do well enough.

 

[Eggsnham]

-Le Snippity-

Well, all of those games are different for one, not to mention the fact that personal preference trumps opinion in these sort of areas.

So you like CoD more, that's fine. But a lot of people don't like the CoD series, or they may think that another series is better.

Now I personally don't like MW2 anymore, but I used to. Black Ops looks promising, and CoD4 was very good in my opinion. But then above all of those, I think I prefer BF:BC2.

So there you have it. My incredible jumble and confusing mix of words explaining why people have the right to challenge CoD.

 

[Mr.Petey]

The original Psone Medal of Honor games had a much larger single player storyline and required good aim with your weapons as opposed to COD's recent "pray and spray" high tech automatic weapons.

Modern Warfare knows it can sacrifice work put into a decent lengthy varied single player campaign in favour of a more popular multiplayer mode. I still find any game annoying that has to stand up with the crutches of multiplayer, unless it's the core component of the game such as an MMO