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afrophysics

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Wow I'd heard people complain about Fox in America but I didn't realise that it was so bad across the whole media! In Britain there are some sources which "talk aboot thi trooth" (props if you get that) such as the Guardian, which normally has fair and well thought out articles, and the BBC have a slight bias but I feel are generally fair.
 

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afrophysics post=18.69511.663203 said:
Wow I'd heard people complain about Fox in America but I didn't realise that it was so bad across the whole media! In Britain there are some sources which "talk aboot thi trooth" (props if you get that) such as the Guardian, which normally has fair and well thought out articles, and the BBC have a slight bias but I feel are generally fair.
Yep, the BBC, The Guardian, The Financial Times and Wikipedia news are probably the best news sources in the world to be honest. the trouble with American news Channels is they are all private sector owned by corporations and a big share holders who can choose exactly what is broadcast so all their news is normally deeply conservative and don't say much about the poltical parties/candidates they support.
 

BardSeed

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Eiseman post=18.69511.663116 said:
Typical news banter: At eleven, THINGS CAN KILL YOU! Tune in to find out how.

Anyway, my belief is that seeing something on the news isn't the time to start making a fuss over anything, be it crime, war, disease, etc. It's when politicians start talking about it that you can start shitting bricks.
The politicians ARE talking about knife-crime in the UK, frequently. Should we start worrying now?

shadow1138 said:
I think that the Russians are making their own variant of Kosovo to show the Americans they can do it just as good as them. Sorry for getting off topic just wanted to clear that up
I'm not saying that the Russians are saints. I think the Georgians are being glorified and I don't think they deserve it.
 

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puffbro1 post=18.69511.663171 said:
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I was living in the safest place in england two years ago when my local council reclassified drunken behaviour as a new classification. So if you beat someone up thats assault if you beat someone up whilst drunk thats something entirely different. This happy state of living in a town with the lowest assault rate in Greater Manchester lasted a week until the papers pointed out the lying that was going on, this was the time when I was working as a doorman, if Im not scared walking the streets after dark after doing that then there should be nothing to scare you.

rule of thumb generally do nothing to anyone leave a peaceful and happy life. Get mouthy get killed. People generally dont go to the effort of kicking in your back door and slaughtering you with a machette if you havent done something major to upset them..

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I think you'll find that you can get your assed kicked without provoking anyone, ie mugging. God knows I've been smashed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Your "Get mouthy get killed" rule is something I agree with, but sometimes you don't even have to do that.
I live in Luton(In England)and I walk home at about 3-4 in the morning after I've been out clubbing, I live 20 or so minutes away from the club that I normally frequent, I keep my wits about me and am always careful of drunkards(Personally I don't drink)and people who look shifty, I cross over the road if I sense something is off, I have a feeling that has "saved" me more times than not. You can never be too careful on the streets at that time of night, I even turn around after someone has walked by me just to make sure they don't double back and stab me or something stupid. Don't get me wrong, I'm not "on edge", jittery or anything stupid like that, I'm just extremely cautious of my surroundings and mostly of people, it's kept me alive so far, and I'll be damned if someone starts on me for no reason at all, I'm legging it if they do, they won't be able to catch me, that much is certain:D
 

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Yeah I've read about the recent stabbings in London. However, I live in Sweden, we tend to report thoes kind of things.
 

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I don't think Britain is anymore violent then it was previously. The papers have naturally blown it out of proportion and made it sound like everyone is being mugged.

I think the amount of knife related deaths in the uk is about 20-30, which seems a lot, but when compared to our 70 million population actually isn't that much at all.
 

A29inchbeefstick

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I live in America and the main thing we hear about the uk is that you curb stomp old ladys on subways,and commit zoophile acts...Im not to stupid to see through it though.
 

BardSeed

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Rshady post=18.69511.664145 said:
I don't think Britain is anymore violent then it was previously. The papers have naturally blown it out of proportion and made it sound like everyone is being mugged.

I think the amount of knife related deaths in the uk is about 20-30, which seems a lot, but when compared to our 70 million population actually isn't that much at all.
A month or a week?

Beefstick, aren't those things acceptable in the states? All the family can enjoy a good curb stomping.
 

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Eh, I think the media over there's just looking for something to report. Not much really exciting happening nowadays, unless of course, Obama gets stabbed. (a symbolic meaning in that, too, a cookie to who gets it)

I mean, that's what I've surmised from what I've read and heard about the British news media. I've never personally read the Guardian or watched a BBCNews broadcast unfiltered in England.

But, most definitely, crime is an issue, I mean, it could just be a slight increase of crime, and since it involves knives, which everyone fears and the media loves to capitalize on, it gets brought up and everyone starts talking. Of course the politicians are going to discuss it; they're being asked the same questions by the people, and the need to keep the pressure off.

As for the private-sector, biased, filtered, controlled media here in America....

Fox News? the only reason that station is up and running is because 70% of this country consists of rednecks who can't make educated decisions, so they turn to the first person that sounds like them, looks like them, and have one or two thoughts in common. The thoughts on the redneck's side would be small bits and pieces of political theory processed and garbled like a bad game a of telephone and then picked up by a sycophant.

CNN? Well, they claim to be an unbiased, trustworthy news source. They kinda achieve that 'goal'. Most of their reporting tends to be more Independent, but as with all of the Big 3 news outlets, you can't verify if they're telling the whole truth or if that 'truth' is the truth without going out there or marauding through Google, looking for blogs owned by smart people.

MSNBC? Hmm... the second-most funny news outlet. Keith Olbermann and O'Reilly have been feuding for a while now, their ideologies colliding perpetually, and Olbermann naming O'Reilly 'Worst Person of the Week', generally along with Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh in the Worst Person segment of his show. Generally speaking, you'll find NBC's networks, including MSNBC, to have a bit of a liberal taste to them, although not as far gone as Fox.

But I digress,

The main point here (aside from the explanation of the American news outlets) is that crime's just an issue in all major cities, conversely, crime in New York is in a downward trent. But both cities are targets of great value. It might be boredom, it could be the knifings themselves, but I doubt that London's streets will be running with blood. If so, I think the SAS would find themselves well-employed here, but I'm not sure if there's a National Guard system in the UK like there is here in the states.
 

zirnitra

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we have the territorial army but it's purely a part time military service. their are times when the army is called in to do other duties civil emergency duties when the firemen go on strike or bomb disposial. but because firearms are so hard to get hold of in the UK (only a special elite force of our police carry guns for example) there has never been a case where armed civilians caused a big enough threat for the need of a military service to be called in to deal with them unless you count the IRA
 

Aginor27

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Here in Canada we tend to hear slightly more about what's going on in Britain. Which makes sense, Canada and Britain have closer ties.