I second this Motion with Stunsticks! Bring on the Stunsticks! And Whiskey!dalek sec said:I'm fine with it, about damn time teachers are able to deal with these snot nosed brats once again.
Metrocops for Teachers!
I second this Motion with Stunsticks! Bring on the Stunsticks! And Whiskey!dalek sec said:I'm fine with it, about damn time teachers are able to deal with these snot nosed brats once again.
It was probably pizza and burgers because the useless fuckwits refuse to eat anything that ISN'T pizza or burgers. And for some kids this might be their only decent meal so healthy food for home, school food for something they might actually eat.Necrophagist said:I'm not strict about much. I do think students should stay on campus during lunch break (it's a public safety and revenue stream thing) but should provide plenty of on-campus dining options (when I went to school, your choices were pizza or burgers. And we wonder why our kids are so fat ...)
^Yeah pretty much this...Hunde Des Krieg said:Well, she hardly deserved being arrested or charged with a crime, but at the same time, obey your goddamned teacher you little skank *****! WTF is with all these misbehaving little shits? Has parenting gone so far down the drain that this is what children have become?
It's more disruptive to send someone out over a hat or "offensive" shirt than it is to just let them wear it. I remember I'd walk into class with a hat on all the time because I didn't have space in the tiny lockers they gave us and I need my for things like opening doors or greeting others. Hats go on your fucking head.niblik said:I've read too many stories of parents sueing their local schools because they sent their kid home for wearing an obnxious shirt to have any major sympathy for teens that give their teachers the finger.
It's really anytime you give someone the power of authority, they're going to use it to the highest of their ability. Security guards, teachers, principles, anyone who can tell you to stop doing something or whatever else, they're going to fucking do it.CaptainEgypt said:It's more disruptive to send someone out over a hat or "offensive" shirt than it is to just let them wear it. I remember I'd walk into class with a hat on all the time because I didn't have space in the tiny lockers they gave us and I need my for things like opening doors or greeting others. Hats go on your fucking head.niblik said:I've read too many stories of parents sueing their local schools because they sent their kid home for wearing an obnxious shirt to have any major sympathy for teens that give their teachers the finger.
I would sit in class not making a peep, nor with anyone else making a peep about my hat, and still teachers would stop their lesson (after the ten minutes it'd take to even notice I had the hat on) and tell that it was "disruptive and I should take it off."
I'd of course oblige just so they'd shut their mouths, because teachers only enforce such rules because they know they can. None of them even know why they do it.
The public school system is hilarious.
This boils down the problem with America right now. We're not teaching our kids how to be healthy at school, and parents aren't doing it at home. IF parents were taking care of their kids at home, sure, load up on the fried cheese at school. But parents aren't. It's a sick cycle and it's fucking our kids over. Ugh it disgusts me.FarleShadow said:It was probably pizza and burgers because the useless fuckwits refuse to eat anything that ISN'T pizza or burgers. And for some kids this might be their only decent meal so healthy food for home, school food for something they might actually eat.Necrophagist said:I'm not strict about much. I do think students should stay on campus during lunch break (it's a public safety and revenue stream thing) but should provide plenty of on-campus dining options (when I went to school, your choices were pizza or burgers. And we wonder why our kids are so fat ...)
axia777 said:0_o!!! Holy shit! WTF is going on here? This shit is serious and no joke. I think I would sue or some shit if I was the parents. This to me is pretty outrageous. I can understand her being busted at school, but a misdemeanor? I would at the very least get a very good lawyer and ream them in court.
I actually agree with you on this one. It's silly that schools don't allow hats, bright clothing, etc. I think there are limits to what schools should allow in the interest of discipline and safety (not to mention dignity) but they always go too far. In Idaho, we have state regulations which stipulate that young women have to wear shorts to the top of their knee. I don't even think they MAKE shorts that long anymore.Ginnnyyy said:It's really anytime you give someone the power of authority, they're going to use it to the highest of their ability. Security guards, teachers, principles, anyone who can tell you to stop doing something or whatever else, they're going to fucking do it.CaptainEgypt said:It's more disruptive to send someone out over a hat or "offensive" shirt than it is to just let them wear it. I remember I'd walk into class with a hat on all the time because I didn't have space in the tiny lockers they gave us and I need my for things like opening doors or greeting others. Hats go on your fucking head.niblik said:I've read too many stories of parents sueing their local schools because they sent their kid home for wearing an obnxious shirt to have any major sympathy for teens that give their teachers the finger.
I would sit in class not making a peep, nor with anyone else making a peep about my hat, and still teachers would stop their lesson (after the ten minutes it'd take to even notice I had the hat on) and tell that it was "disruptive and I should take it off."
I'd of course oblige just so they'd shut their mouths, because teachers only enforce such rules because they know they can. None of them even know why they do it.
The public school system is hilarious.
Why?
Because they have no power otherwise.
It's pathetic.
I was send out of class for wearing brightly colored leggings UNDER a pair of jeans. They jeans were ripped, so they leggings were visible, and my ***** math teacher told me I had to change.
For once I stood up to her ((She used to always be on my case)), I explained why I had them on and whatever else, walked out of class, but never got called down to office or anything, went back the next day, and she never said anything about my outfits another day for the rest of my two years at the school.
I think you may be missing my point, the teacher can tell the student to stop but if they're not listening, they shouldn't be there in the first place. just leave, it's not the teachers responsibility nor duty to make the students obey. They're there to teach, but if the students don't wanna learn, it isn't the teacher's problem.Necrophagist said:This may be one of the most ignorant things I've heard on this message board yet. Reminds me of my old punk rock buddies, now 25-27, who still go by the whole "fuck all authority" bullshit.Skalman said:what authority? Teachers have no authority, teachers deserve no authority. They're just there to teach stuff. If the kid isn't listening he/she can go somewhere else and try to learn something. Wont' be the teachers fault when the students flunk the class later on.P1p3s said:well - if she respected the authority of the teacher it wouldnt have gotten that far.
Seriously, grow up.
It's state law for students to be in class. A teacher cannot make them leave school grounds, nor can they kick them out of class without reason, during which the student must remain on school grounds in the presence of a school official.Skalman said:I think you may be missing my point, the teacher can tell the student to stop but if they're not listening, they shouldn't be there in the first place. just leave, it's not the teachers responsibility nor duty to make the students obey. They're there to teach, but if the students don't wanna learn, it isn't the teacher's problem.Necrophagist said:This may be one of the most ignorant things I've heard on this message board yet. Reminds me of my old punk rock buddies, now 25-27, who still go by the whole "fuck all authority" bullshit.Skalman said:what authority? Teachers have no authority, teachers deserve no authority. They're just there to teach stuff. If the kid isn't listening he/she can go somewhere else and try to learn something. Wont' be the teachers fault when the students flunk the class later on.P1p3s said:well - if she respected the authority of the teacher it wouldnt have gotten that far.
Seriously, grow up.
also, i may have come off with too much of a "fuck authority" attitude earlier, my apologies.
In that case I can see the problem.Necrophagist said:It's state law for students to be in class. A teacher cannot make them leave school grounds, nor can they kick them out of class without reason, during which the student must remain on school grounds in the presence of a school official.Skalman said:I think you may be missing my point, the teacher can tell the student to stop but if they're not listening, they shouldn't be there in the first place. just leave, it's not the teachers responsibility nor duty to make the students obey. They're there to teach, but if the students don't wanna learn, it isn't the teacher's problem.Necrophagist said:This may be one of the most ignorant things I've heard on this message board yet. Reminds me of my old punk rock buddies, now 25-27, who still go by the whole "fuck all authority" bullshit.Skalman said:what authority? Teachers have no authority, teachers deserve no authority. They're just there to teach stuff. If the kid isn't listening he/she can go somewhere else and try to learn something. Wont' be the teachers fault when the students flunk the class later on.P1p3s said:well - if she respected the authority of the teacher it wouldnt have gotten that far.
Seriously, grow up.
also, i may have come off with too much of a "fuck authority" attitude earlier, my apologies.
So what's a teacher to do? Just let students run the class? High school isn't like college, where student choose to be there pay good money to be there. High schools are mandatory institutions, and as such, teachers MUST have authority in order to maintain a productive classroom. Most of the students don't want to be there. Teacher have to have the authoritative high ground.
Damn right, love for someone to tell that ***** to "get ready to recieve civil judgement".Combined said:I second this Motion with Stunsticks! Bring on the Stunsticks! And Whiskey!dalek sec said:I'm fine with it, about damn time teachers are able to deal with these snot nosed brats once again.
Metrocops for Teachers!