Hey, maybe he'll become a masked vigilante, clearing the streets of crime one crook at a time.rickheg said:
Beware evil-doers, for Sword-Man is on the case!
Student kills intruder with sword
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Beware evil-doers, for Sword-Man is on the case!
Rather than read 9 pages of posts I'm going to go out on a limb and guess no one has brought up this point:
I took firearms training. One of the things I was taught was if you draw you are committed to killing someone if circumstances demand it. One legal reason was that dead intruders don't get a chance to lie on the stand in court. I can't hold it against this guy at all for killing the intruder, and American law does back him in this in most cases.
The one flaw I see is this: Who did the scream come from? If it came from the student, he's safe. If it provably came from the intruder it could be used as grounds to say that he was no longer a threat and the second stroke was not warranted. Weak argument but I've seen worse work *cough*O.J.*cough*.
I took firearms training. One of the things I was taught was if you draw you are committed to killing someone if circumstances demand it. One legal reason was that dead intruders don't get a chance to lie on the stand in court. I can't hold it against this guy at all for killing the intruder, and American law does back him in this in most cases.
The one flaw I see is this: Who did the scream come from? If it came from the student, he's safe. If it provably came from the intruder it could be used as grounds to say that he was no longer a threat and the second stroke was not warranted. Weak argument but I've seen worse work *cough*O.J.*cough*.
From what I understand it's totally legal to own that kind of sword in Baltimore and the student has NOT been charged at this time. Hell, even the quote from the cop that our paper carried sounded impressed. It's a pity you can't do this in Australia, I got robbed earlier this year and would have happily eviscerated the litte bastards who stole my original PS3. If I'd done this here you can bet I'd be locked up for life and probably be made to pay compensation to the "victim's" [see criminal] family. Christ, a robber fell through a skylight here in W.A. a few years ago and injured himself badly, but not badly enough that he couldn't sue the house's owner for hundreds of thousands of dollars in compensation *even though he was on the property illegally*!!
I feel disgusted at all the people who think that this is "Epic Win."
It's a horrible situation. I can't stand it when people treat tragedies like they are a summer blockbuster. I hate it when people say "I that was me, I would [do something better]." If you've never been in that situation, you don't know what it's like. Someone died. It's not a source of entertainment for you. Some god out there didn't design this little scene for shits and giggles. Someone died. It's going to affect people. It's going to hurt them. It's not "sweet" or "cool" or anything like that. This is human life we're talking about. Have some compassion for your fellow man. I don't want to see everyone become cold, desensitized robots in this world. Think about what really happened here. This isn't a cut scene in your favorite hack and slash video game. This is real life. Remember the distinction between the two.
Sorry if I'm getting too worked up about this, but for some reason I care about the emotions of you faceless people on the internet. I'm not sure why, but I want you to have them. I don't know. Maybe I'm just being a girl about this whole thing, but despite what someone said earlier I think I would lose sleep years and years down the line if such a thing impacted my life. Personally though, I like my human compassion, and I think I'll keep it.
It's a horrible situation. I can't stand it when people treat tragedies like they are a summer blockbuster. I hate it when people say "I that was me, I would [do something better]." If you've never been in that situation, you don't know what it's like. Someone died. It's not a source of entertainment for you. Some god out there didn't design this little scene for shits and giggles. Someone died. It's going to affect people. It's going to hurt them. It's not "sweet" or "cool" or anything like that. This is human life we're talking about. Have some compassion for your fellow man. I don't want to see everyone become cold, desensitized robots in this world. Think about what really happened here. This isn't a cut scene in your favorite hack and slash video game. This is real life. Remember the distinction between the two.
Sorry if I'm getting too worked up about this, but for some reason I care about the emotions of you faceless people on the internet. I'm not sure why, but I want you to have them. I don't know. Maybe I'm just being a girl about this whole thing, but despite what someone said earlier I think I would lose sleep years and years down the line if such a thing impacted my life. Personally though, I like my human compassion, and I think I'll keep it.
From the report I'm not entirely sure this guy had the intent to kill. Either way he's a badass and I'm sure theft rates would go down if every neighborhood had a resident Jack Churchill to take out the petty criminals.
I can almost taste the self righteousness oozing from this post.StercusCaput said:
I will take your post and break it down.
1. There is no evidence to indicate the man broke in. According to the article you posted the garage door had been left open, and the man had walked into the garage. What we have most is unlawful entry.
2. Again from the article: "The man had entered a home where several Johns Hopkins students lived, Guglielmi said. Four students, one armed with a samurai sword, had confronted the suspect in the garage.
The man "lunged" at the students, and the student with the sword defended himself, severing the man's left hand and cutting his upper body, Guglielmi said."
The article had also mentioned "Severe Lacerations." Note the plural. Meaning this kid did not only cut off this man's hand, but also then slash at his torso multiple times. I know enough about physical trauma that after you lose a hand, you don't "keep coming."
Can you honestly say that a group of 4 people would've had to resort to deadly force to stop one unarmed man?
3. The man had not been reported as having actually stolen anything, merely being suspected of such since the students had been burgled the previous day.
4. You are profiling. Severely. You assume that because he has a criminal record he is "probably hopped up on meth" and must be built like a brick shithouse. Even if this man had been intending to steal, who are you to decide that his life is worth less than $50 worth of office supplies or the like?
If the world were as black and white as you would like it to be then your argument would be valid. But it's not. And I'm guessing here that you are in a reasonably isolated situation where you don't have to deal with these sorts of concepts.
A man was killed people. Maybe he was breaking the law but that doesn't make him deserving of the death penalty. Show some fucking respect.
Ah didn't catch that he was sitting on the guy.Bulletinmybrain said:
We'll see how a grand jury deals with it. They tend to be a bit leinient on this sort of thing. If it goes to a jury trial it's real unlikely he'd be convicted of much beyond manslaughter or plead out to 3rd degree assault or something.
I've sat in on one preliminary for this sort of thing (except it was a gun) the guy shot the intruder and emptied his revolver into him (six bullets) the intruder was unarmed but 'lunging' and after sitting in jail for 8 days to await his preliminary hearing he pled guilty to assault and battery and was given like another 5 days in jail and a $68 fine. (in all fairness though that particular judge is super 'tough on crime')
Is this guy serious or just a troll? I haven't been around long enough to tell. I'm guessing you've been broken into recently?Wilbot666 said:
At what point does your logic come to an end? I mean, by parking and not paying the meter, especially if you park in a privately owned parking garage, then by your own logic the owner of said garage would be well within his rights to kill you too. I mean, you're stealing from him and on his property.
I mean, you get your 3 buddies and you kick his ass if he comes at you, but you don't go 7 samurai on his ass.
..A kid with a sharpened Katana was attacked by a man with no weapon, and the KID was fighting for his life?kawligia said:
Kind of twisted logic.
(It hasn't been stated there was a weapon, but I'm sure the guy would have said if there was. Killing an unarmed guy might look iffy, but if the guy also had a weapon then it'd look a lot more convincing)
Go find a police officer in your area and ask him if he would feel that his life was in danger in this situation. I can tell you right now the answer is yes.Parallel Streaks said:
You don't know if he has a weapon and you don't have an opportunity to find out. If you wait until you see one, you will already be shot/stabbed.
The mere fact that he sees YOUR weapon and chooses to assault you ANYWAY could lead you to reasonably believe that he has some trick up his sleeve.
Also, when someone sees your weapon and attacks anyway, what are you supposed to do even if you DID know for a fact that he doesn't have a weapon? The guy is obviously not going to be deterred from attacking by threats or reason! Are you supposed to throw away your only advantage and fight hand to hand? That could easily result in your head being cracked on the floor.
That kid didn't ask to be put in that situation. You are asking him to take a MAJOR risk of serious injury and death. That's because he is fighting against so many unknown variables and has only miliseconds to gather information, make a decision, and carry it out. And the only benefit of putting that huge risk on this kid is the decreased chance of injury or death on the person who PURPOSEFULLY started this shit in the first place.
Someone has to take on a big risk here. And in all fairness and reason, the danger should be shifted to the attacker and not the victim. You seem to want it to be the other way around and THAT is twisted logic.
You're right, it is human life. The student's life. He was in danger from this man, and retaliated. Perhaps he thought he could get the intruder to leave by intimidation, because what idiot would attack a guy with a goddamn sword? But the guy did, so obviously he was a threat. I'm going to ask you to take your own advice and think about it. This is real life. This criminal was only entering unlawfully as another poster said *AT THE MOMENT*. He had a history of armed assault, including on a police officer. If Jack the Ripper comes into your house and decides he feels like nicking your TV, and you ask him to leave, and he comes at you, it sounds like your advice is to hug him, or lay down and die.Ciambawildcat said:
This is real life, not some candy land rainbow world as you suggest. They aren't going to leave you alone if you ask "pretty please". They're going to beat your ass down and, if they're deranged enough, kill you. I justify what the student did not because it's "badass" or "epic win", I justify it because the student kept himself safe, rather than sorry, and likely dead himself. Either way, one of them was going to die, and I'd rather it be a deadbeat criminal than an innocent college student just trying to protect himself and his hard earned possessions.
I said "maybe hopped up on meth" as a plausible possibility that the student might have to consider. I said maybe, you said probably...world of difference, thanks for misquoting. The man was in PRISON not JAIL. There is a difference, people in prison are career criminals. It is rare to come out of prison without the ability to fight because you have to learn how to defend yourself in prison.yeliw said:
HE WOULD STILL BE ALIVE IF HE DIDN'T ENTER THE HOUSE - Open door or not, it isn't his house and he doesn't belong there. Since you like to throw around the word respect, my parents taught me to RESPECT other people's property by not entering their home unannounced, oper door or not. They also taught me that visitors should use the FRONT DOOR and KNOCK or RING THE DOORBELL. If the man had amicable intent he should have been using the front door.
I am not profiling, the man was uninvited and in their house at night. So what do you think his intent was? Borrowing sugar?
Please tell me what candy land world you live in where late night intruders into your home are considered unannounced guests deserving of respect.
God forbid you ever wake up and find someone in your house at night. If this does happen, please be sure to come back and tell us you showed him respect.