Student Protest

[Chechosaurus]

How about the fire extinguisher thrown onto the police officers from the roof?

And I repeat my self: The more fire extinguishers thrown out of windows onto cars the better.

Police officers aren't cars.

My mistake. I miss-read that. Any way, it landed on a car, not an officer. Either way, I can see that we clearly have VERY different views on this matter.

 

[Bobic]

How about the fire extinguisher thrown onto the police officers from the roof?

And I repeat my self: The more fire extinguishers thrown out of windows onto cars the better.

Police officers aren't cars.

My mistake. I miss-read that. Any way, it landed on a car, not an officer. Either way, I can see that we clearly have VERY different views on this matter.

Why yes we do, but what would be the point in a debate if we both had the same views?

 

[Chechosaurus]

How about the fire extinguisher thrown onto the police officers from the roof?

And I repeat my self: The more fire extinguishers thrown out of windows onto cars the better.

Police officers aren't cars.

My mistake. I miss-read that. Any way, it landed on a car, not an officer. Either way, I can see that we clearly have VERY different views on this matter.

Why yes we do, but what would be the point in a debate if we both had the same views?

To be honest, I just didn't really have anything else to say. I accepted the error that I made and that was that. I was just looking for a way to finish really. Happy?

Don't like the parties...start a new one. If you have something of value to say, you will get elected. Or do you honestly believe we should be governed by the biggest bully on the block - because change by violent revolution is just that.

I certainly don't have the capacity to form my own political party and run an election campaign to get my self into office. Not many people do. I am merely voicing my opinion on what is wrong with this country. I am not a revolutionary or a politician but I am entitled to an opinion. Furthermore, by saying 'If you have something of value to say, you will get elected' is just not true. Well at least not in so few words. Politics is a complicated thing and our electoral system doesn't help the process. You can't win an election on words alone. Some people will always be stuck in their views no matter how wrong they are. That is not to say that I am right and everyone else is wrong but if someone provided me with irrefutable truth that a constitutional monarchy was without a doubt the best way to run a country, I would still not agree with it on a fundamental level.

Ah still ducking I see.

And still ducking what exactly? I made my point and then accepted my error. I'm not asking any of you to agree with me.

 

[Bobic]

How about the fire extinguisher thrown onto the police officers from the roof?

And I repeat my self: The more fire extinguishers thrown out of windows onto cars the better.

Police officers aren't cars.

My mistake. I miss-read that. Any way, it landed on a car, not an officer. Either way, I can see that we clearly have VERY different views on this matter.

Why yes we do, but what would be the point in a debate if we both had the same views?

To be honest, I just didn't really have anything else to say. I accepted the error that I made and that was that. I was just looking for a way to finish really. Happy?

Ah still ducking I see.

And still ducking what exactly? I made my point and then accepted my error. I'm not asking any of you to agree with me.

Why yes I'm ecstatic.

Although I am enraged about you quoting me with things I didn't say

 

[FolkLikePanda]

I think the whole violence bit was an over-reaction but I'll agree that they shouldn't raise uni prices, if they do then they should also increase foreign student uni prices. Then again with the violence bit I am hoping to go to Uni in 2 years and my family aren't rich at all, so...

 

[AngloDoom]

I think England treats it's youth like the enemy, and generalises them in a way that's ridiculous if you put it in any other form. "All youth are yobs" makes sense, but not "all Asian's known kung-fu"

I also thought that things were getting better, and that 'yobbo youths' were disappearing from the media. Now, what are considered the most intelligent of 'young' people went around and broke into shit, smashed up cars, and set fire to shit for the sake of doing it. No-one believed in the cause that much to start a fight, in my opinion.

In my opinion, this protest was a failure.

 

[Ham_authority95]

It's a small price to pay for a revolution. Also, just because were are complacent doesn't mean we don't need a revolution. Our country may not be the worst but we do put up with far too much shit. The rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer and our "Democratically" elected government seems determined to dick all over the working and middle classes. Sure, they say it is for practical reasons but it's all ingrained in their ideology and is doomed to fail, sending us further down the drain. Cutting 25% from every public sector is not the only way to reduce our deficit but the Tories don't believe in public ownership and they just want to privatise everything. The political parties we have to choose from are Labour (They haven't represented the working class since 1979). The Liberal Democrats (Sell outs and liars). And the Conservatives (Archaic and imperialistic). What is it about our country that DOESN'T need to change? As we slide down into the big brother state that is forming around us and the bourgeois government speaks about the 'deserving poor' whilst desperately trying to keep everyone who didn't go to a private school out of university. It is actions like those of the students that show the government that they should not be so complacent and that they can't just screw everyone over. If all it achieved was that, then I salute them because at least they did something. Everyone else just stood by and watched (including myself) rather than taking action for something that we believe in and for that, we should all be ashamed. Every country in the modern world could do with some sort of radical change for the better.

If you want social upheaval so badly, than why don't you get away from the computer and do something?

 

[Lexodus]

How about the fire extinguisher thrown onto the police officers from the roof?

And I repeat my self: The more fire extinguishers thrown out of windows onto cars the better.

Police officers aren't cars.

My mistake. I miss-read that. Any way, it landed on a car, not an officer. Either way, I can see that we clearly have VERY different views on this matter.

Why yes we do, but what would be the point in a debate if we both had the same views?

You're both wrong here. The car was at the Lib Dem HQ, and the fire extinguisher was thrown off the roof, and didn't hit ANYTHING.

 

[Bobic]

How about the fire extinguisher thrown onto the police officers from the roof?

And I repeat my self: The more fire extinguishers thrown out of windows onto cars the better.

Police officers aren't cars.

My mistake. I miss-read that. Any way, it landed on a car, not an officer. Either way, I can see that we clearly have VERY different views on this matter.

Why yes we do, but what would be the point in a debate if we both had the same views?

You're both wrong here. The car was at the Lib Dem HQ, and the fire extinguisher was thrown off the roof, and didn't hit ANYTHING.

I said the roof, I also said it was thrown AT the police, not that it hit anyone. It is, after all, the thought that counts.

 

[Last Valiance]

You notice it's only the tabloids that call it a "riot"; all the non-biased papers still call it a protest. Fucking propaganda.

 

[Cowabungaa]

Violent outbursts outside, that's one steep increase in fees and I wouldn't be surprised if it would make going to college very difficult, if not impossible, for a lot of people.

It's almost funny how many Western countries want to make themselves knowledge-based economies, yet several of those countries are just making it more difficult to actually get a post-high school education.

 

[demoman_chaos]

I'd be pretty pissed too if I had to pay an extra 6,000 for nothing extra. I could understand maybe a hundred a year, but 6k is ridiculous.

Is there any justification for them tripling the cost?

 

[sam13lfc]

The violence is caused by chavs just wanting to riot probably, and I think we should be a little forceful because our dick of a PM is making the fees stupidly high.

Seriously if he gets assassinated I wouldn't actually care despite my usual attitude towards stuff like that.

 

[Lexodus]

How about the fire extinguisher thrown onto the police officers from the roof?

And I repeat my self: The more fire extinguishers thrown out of windows onto cars the better.

Police officers aren't cars.

My mistake. I miss-read that. Any way, it landed on a car, not an officer. Either way, I can see that we clearly have VERY different views on this matter.

Why yes we do, but what would be the point in a debate if we both had the same views?

You're both wrong here. The car was at the Lib Dem HQ, and the fire extinguisher was thrown off the roof, and didn't hit ANYTHING.

I said the roof, I also said it was thrown AT the police, not that it hit anyone. It is, after all, the thought that counts.

And that was the one thing I disagreed with in the entire thing.

 

[DrWilhelm]

I hate the media for their coverage of this protest. 52000 people were present and somewhere between 50 and 500 (I suspect the numbers are growing with every telling) became violent. The vast majority of protesters remained civil but even the news sources who aren't pretending that the entire protest suddenly went rabid are focussing solely on the violence. So it seems a combination of violent yobs and our sensationalist news media have ruined any chance of a meaningful protest ever being taken seriously. Thanks guys!

 

[BenzSmoke]

I think you will all find this video very interesting.

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I agree. But I think that a good education is hard to get even if you have the money. (Watch that youtube video).

Thanks for posting this. That video is brilliant.