Stuff people just need to realize

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ZenMonkey47

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- Adding a young, sassy sidekick to a dark character isn't so much humanizing as it is obnoxious and pathetic.
- Alucard is Dracula backwards. We get it. It's been done, quite literally, to death.
- While I like a strong female role as much as the next guy, women are just as human as men. It's okay for them to make mistakes.
- In a life threatening situation, should not go back for non-important trinkets. Another living creature yes; Lockets, stuffed animals, and pictures not so much.
- "If you kill me you'll be just like me" is a silly bad guy argument. 1) If I kill you you'll be dead, and I'll be alive and 2) If I let you live, you'll probably go on to do even MORE heinous things.

EDIT Yeah, I should really apologize for this thread. I just spent the last few days catching up on some of the movies from this year and just had to get some things off my chest. I wrote this in haste and didn't bother to check spelling.

Now then, discussion topic. What tropes (HUR.) in your opinion should cause someone to have their creativity license revoked?
 

Grand_Poohbah

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Well...not much room for discussion.

Maybe you could include a question that we may discuss in a merry fashion?
 

Fightgarr

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By people you mean devs right?
I realized those things as well.

One more though,
Making a character dark and sullen doesn't make them so much mysterious as it does make them unrelateable pricks who are about as unpredictable as a clock spinning clockwise.
 

CoverYourHead

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If you create a story that lets you choose to be good or evil, there better be an ending that is pure evil. (Dark side ending of KOTOR anyone?)
 

Aardvark

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Also realise that you have an irritating personality. Nobody likes you. If the only thing getting you through the day is the misconception that people like you, end it now.
 

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Danzorz said:
Grammar is important, without it society would slowly erode.
w4t? i b3lie3v3 u is wr0ng sur. i f3el m0re intell1gent by the hour.

If this is what people need to realize in general I got one. People will not worship you or even care if you have Linux so stop acting like they should.
 

Puppeteer Putin

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Don't make a speak justifying you're kill, the narrative has done that before, just take the shot! Then you can go to you're wife and children who were not kidnapped by the bad guy that escaped - because you killed him instead of giving us exposition which lead to a needless sub-plot.

k, I'm done.
 

Ursus Astrorum

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Fightgarr said:
Making a character dark and sullen doesn't make them so much mysterious as it does make them unrelateable pricks who are about as unpredictable as a clock spinning clockwise.
Depends what you mean by dark and sullen. Are we talking Anakin Skywalker or are we going onto any form of negativity? I've personally always loved the "Been there, seen things, don't care anymore" characters, the grizzled and reluctant veterans, mainly because they allow for a bit more development and choice than most darker archetypes.

EDIT: Almost forgot. People need to realize that just because the antagonist is the antagonist, doesn't mean he's Sir Badass, who sits atop his dark throne at Castle Awesomedoom, laughing maniacally as his glowing red eyes narrow to slits from beneath his black-iron helm. Even with evil antagonists, you could really come up with a better motivation for their actions than "Because I'm evil and I want to."

Also, if the previous team's writing staff introduced a female character that has an interesting subplot and details intended to be exploited and built upon, you build on those points and keep uncovering more about her. You do not simply throw the last team's work aside and make her a tacked-on love interest. Case in point, Krystal. "What? She's from an unknown planet and her parents were killed? Ah, screw it, that's too hard. Let's just make her a telepathic sidekick that Fox falls for, providing a gateway to horrible fanfiction."
 

superbleeder12

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ZOMG I MAEK COMMENTS ABOUT TROPES IN MEDIA HURRRRRR

What discussion is there in this thread (other than obviously the fact that there is no discussion) and second http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HomePage
 

Fightgarr

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Michael_McCloud said:
Fightgarr said:
Making a character dark and sullen doesn't make them so much mysterious as it does make them unrelateable pricks who are about as unpredictable as a clock spinning clockwise.
Depends what you mean by dark and sullen. Are we talking Anakin Skywalker or are we going onto any form of negativity? I've personally always loved the "Been there, seen things, don't care anymore" characters, the grizzled and reluctant veterans, mainly because they allow for a bit more development and choice than most darker archetypes.
I'm talking somewhere between Anikin Skywalker and Cloud Strife.
 

MrGFunk

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World peace,
Renewable energy resources,
Space exploration.

All good ideas.
 

manicfoot

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That linking people to Zeitgeist like the internet has never heard of it is really fucking annoying. "omgz 9/11 is a conspiracy! look at this movie called zeitgeist"
"Welcome to the internet. You'll find conspiracy theories on the left and porn on the right"
 

fix-the-spade

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You are all going to die.


By extension all debates of faith are irrelavent, because you will find out who's right sooner or later. You will also be dead and no-one wll be able to ask you.
 

hypothetical fact

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Robots will not stop to tell you that you will be deleted or provide any plot, they are programmed to kill you and must follow that out the instant they detect you.
 

Knight Templar

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Anyone who uses a "Deus Ex Machinae" needs to learn some creativity.
That I agree with but I use a rule: One per franchise, changing the cast resets the clock.