Stuff we DON'T Miss from the 90s.

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Spade Lead

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Owyn_Merrilin said:
And that has exactly what to do with the way it looked? So it apparently handles well and is hot roddable. That's not what the people in the thread were complaining about.
A lot of people to this day still prefer the early 90's mustang to the 4.6, which came out later in the 90s, and had more power and better gas mileage. It was unique, even if you don't like it, and it has some sex appeal when set up for drag racing.

In my opinion, this:

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/fox-mustang-drag-wallpaper-800x600.jpg

is better looking than this:

http://image.hotrod.com/f/featuredvehicles/9879337+w794/hrdp_0612_mustang_02_z+2006_ford_mustang+drag_car.jpg
 

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The pop music of 1998 & 1999.

97% of horror & comedy movies that came out after 1998.

Whatever Rob Liefeld was working on at the time.

Dial-up connection, fax machines, beepers/pagers.

5th Generation & early 6th Generation Console graphics (Playstation, N64, Saturn, Jaguar, 3DO, Virtual Boy).

90210, Friends, Road Rules.

Only 99 channels & analog cable....Changing the channels one at a time & relyng on a printed Cable Guide.

Chunky CRT monitors & TVs.

Video games on floppy disks that ran on MSDOS.

Windows 1-98.

Computer hard drives that couldn't hold even 1 terabyte of data.
 

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Dial Up internet. Those screeching chords as I tried to connect will haunt my dreams
I kind of miss the old hayes handshaking tones. Almost entirely because of nostalgia of course.
 

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SodaDew said:
Cars, the 90's had practically no good cars. I also don't miss Bill Clinton.
No good cars?

The Mazda RX-7? Toyota Supra? Lamborghini Diablo? Ferrari F50? The Nissan 300ZX/240SX/Skyline(doesn't count for most Americans because we could never get one, but as a gamer, we had them in Gran Turismo, and that is more than the average American could say back then)? The mid-90s Cadillac Deville is a car I dreamed about owning for over a decade, and now that I have one, I can honestly say that it was worth the wait. I love that car. How about the Mitsubishi 3000GT, Lancer Evolution (still not in America back then, but they were amazing), and the Eclipse GT and GTX (The GT had a turbo, and the GTX was just a Lancer Evo with a smaller body.)? And if you like the Eclipse, you are required to like the Ford Probe, and Dodge Stealth, which both shared a frame and chassis with the Eclipse.

WHAT ABOUT THE MACLAREN F1, THE FIRST CAR THAT COST $1 MILLION?! THE DODGE VIPER! The Jaguar XJ220? What about the Acura NSX? That car was brand new in 1991, and was still worth $30,000 when I got to sit in one for the first time in 2003.

And the thing that offends me most about your statement:

The Nissan R34 Skyline was born in 1999, and is my most desired car of all time!

The car I am saving up for now that I have my 1994 Deville: A 1998 S14 240SX.

Why is that? While most of the 90's and 2000's cars suffer from the problem of being front wheel drive (even my beloved Deville has this problem) the 240SX is very much a rear wheel drive sports car with the Car enthusiast in mind.
Well, this thread was about stuff that we personally don't miss about the nineties, and I think the majority of the stuff that came out in that era (particularly american stuff: seriously, the deville? That shit is not cool.).

It's not that there weren't any good cars, but the vast majority of the stuff you see on the roads from that period of time look like I designed them after not sleeping for a week and then drinking a bottle of scotch.

edit: Actually, I should say that yes, there were good looking cars back then (and obviously, they were technically better than the cars of the 80's but that doesn't count since that happens with time anyways) but the nineties also produced a lot of hideous, hideous cars. I mean yeah, previously we had stuff like the amc pacer, but that was ugly in kind of a charming way, whereas the ford scorpio for example is so apalling to look at it really isn't even funny anymore.

All of that being said, the ugliest car in human history, the aztek, was created in 2001...
 

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Music wasn't that bad, Oasis, Blur etc. I dunno what you guys were listening to. The only thing that comes to my mind is England not winning anything, but that's not exactly exclusive.

Film, television and games were making leaps and bounds as well; Lock Stock, Pulp Fiction, Batman the Animated Series, Friends, Golden Eye.
Cars were getting faster, F1 (start of the Schumacher era) in particular was doing well.

I suppose there was the Spice Girls, but they did make that film that was brilliant.
 

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Wow, I know that I was 11 to 20 during the nineties but with the exception of net speeds and Rob Leifeld (Super heroes in general, I don;t think there is much from the decade that was not cooled then it is now.

Action movies were violent and there were no Transformers, Yah there was Brittney but we had Tool and NIN.

Clerks and Pulp Fiction; Indie comics like Johnny the Homicidal Maniac; Cartoons that were cool.

This says it all:

http://youtu.be/TZt-pOc3moc
 

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Well, this thread was about stuff that we personally don't miss about the nineties, and I think the majority of the stuff that came out in that era (particularly american stuff: seriously, the deville? That shit is not cool.).

It's not that there weren't any good cars, but the vast majority of the stuff you see on the roads from that period of time look like I designed them after not sleeping for a week and then drinking a bottle of scotch.
I was not the only one who thought the guys who said there were no good cars back were wrong, I was just the only one to list a lot of the good cars. And a lot of the non-supercars I listed are still immensely popular. The Supra is actually still worth about HALF of it's original 1996 list price. In some places, their value is going back UP again, because of movies like The Fast and the Furious, which made the 10 second Supra popular. (Tell me you wouldn't like a 1,000 horsepower car)

That said, what is wrong with the 94 Deville? It is a great car, with plenty of horsepower and even more torque. I shit stomp cars from last year that kids think are fast, like Honda Civics and Accords. I bought it because my goal was to lower it and make a cruiser, and for that, it is far better than anything to come off an assembly line in any other country in recent years. I think the lines are aggressive and manly, yet still aerodynamic. I am not going to lie, I think the Seville looks more aggressive and race car like, but I didn't want a race car, I wanted a sleeper that was meant for cruising that just happened to be able to smash on so called "street racers."

The low slung curves that were popular in the 90s were an attempt to make ultra-sleek aerodynamic car that was still stylish. Some of the cars, like the Eclipse and Supra, are still popular among the punk teenage "street racer" crowd. Others, like the 240SX are considered staples of the Drift Racing leagues. The S14 240SX is a 90s cars in it's entirety, and is one of my favorite cars from that era. The only other one I can afford, really.
 

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Spade Lead said:
Pietari Heliste said:
Well, this thread was about stuff that we personally don't miss about the nineties, and I think the majority of the stuff that came out in that era (particularly american stuff: seriously, the deville? That shit is not cool.).

It's not that there weren't any good cars, but the vast majority of the stuff you see on the roads from that period of time look like I designed them after not sleeping for a week and then drinking a bottle of scotch.
I was not the only one who thought the guys who said there were no good cars back were wrong, I was just the only one to list a lot of the good cars. And a lot of the non-supercars I listed are still immensely popular. The Supra is actually still worth about HALF of it's original 1996 list price. In some places, their value is going back UP again, because of movies like The Fast and the Furious, which made the 10 second Supra popular. (Tell me you wouldn't like a 1,000 horsepower car)

That said, what is wrong with the 94 Deville? It is a great car, with plenty of horsepower and even more torque. I shit stomp cars from last year that kids think are fast, like Honda Civics and Accords. I bought it because my goal was to lower it and make a cruiser, and for that, it is far better than anything to come off an assembly line in any other country in recent years. I think the lines are aggressive and manly, yet still aerodynamic. I am not going to lie, I think the Seville looks more aggressive and race car like, but I didn't want a race car, I wanted a sleeper that was meant for cruising that just happened to be able to smash on so called "street racers."

The low slung curves that were popular in the 90s were an attempt to make ultra-sleek aerodynamic car that was still stylish. Some of the cars, like the Eclipse and Supra, are still popular among the punk teenage "street racer" crowd. Others, like the 240SX are considered staples of the Drift Racing leagues. The S14 240SX is a 90s cars in it's entirety, and is one of my favorite cars from that era. The only other one I can afford, really.
I just can't think of a single Cadillac I actually like in terms of styling. Never driven one that doesn't float around like a boat either. That being said, I haven't driven many.

The eclipse isn't a bad looking thing I think, just don't like the supra that much.
 

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This nonsense right here:
The Nineties Anti-Hero. Thankfully Deadpool saved us from them. Praise Deadpool.
Yeah too bad that's all back again


And those were just quick examples.
 

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The important thing to remember about nostalgia is the EVERY decade is filled with Terrible bullshit, plus some awesome stuff that hearkens to a much better future. And every decade for humanity keeps making life better and better. The 90's were a time of transition, the beginnings of a sort of cultural revolution, where the landscape of a fundementally different future was first being mapped out. That makes it very interesting, and memorable. But we should remember that the 90's were better then the 80's, the 00's were better still, this decade is better that that, and the next one will be even better.

What do I particularly not miss? Me being 12-22 years dumber.
 

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Pietari Heliste said:
I just can't think of a single Cadillac I actually like in terms of styling. Never driven one that doesn't float around like a boat either. That being said, I haven't driven many.

The eclipse isn't a bad looking thing I think, just don't like the supra that much.
The reason Cadillacs bob around like that is a bad suspension. An OEM rear shock costs nearly $700, and no one wants to pay to have a mechanic install that at $130 an hour. I do it myself, and got a deal at Advance auto parts that replaces the air-leveling system with a standard gas shock for only $200 for both rear. The Cadillac suspensions have gotten much better since the 70s and 80s, when they had softer suspensions for ride quality over handling.

I don't know why you don't like the Supra, because their straight-6 is far superior to any other engine on the market, even today for generating power, and the mid-90s cars were dead sexy, but hey, I don't like the 80s Supras, so it may just be a styling taste, and there is nothing wrong with that, as long as you admit a 90s Supra would smoke a 2000s Mustang in a fair fight.
 

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Spade Lead said:
SodaDew said:
Cars, the 90's had practically no good cars. I also don't miss Bill Clinton.
No good cars?

The Mazda RX-7? Toyota Supra? Lamborghini Diablo? Ferrari F50? The Nissan 300ZX/240SX/Skyline
WHAT ABOUT THE MACLAREN F1, THE DODGE VIPER! The Jaguar XJ220? What about the Acura NSX?
The Nissan R34 Skyline was born in 1999,
hmmm, good point, I mostly was thinking of cars you see everyday, not super cars. I do agree with you on ever car you listed, Nissan Skylines in particular are some of my favorite cars!
 

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scorptatious said:
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The over-saturation of 2D platformers. Seriously, most of those 2D mascot platformers sucked heavily. Not sad to see those gone.
And 3D platformer collect-a-thons. Sure, some of my favorite games like Spyro, Banjo Kazooie, and Super Mario 64 technically fall under that list, (in fact Super Mario 64 probably helped popularized the genre), but there were a lot of them back then. It's sort of like today where we have an over-saturation of shooters.

Well... maybe not so much now, I really don't remember any AAA FPS's besides Black Ops 2 releasing this year, so maybe that fad is finally starting to die down.
I have been searching for some 3D platformers and honestly there weren't that many, even worse now that there are a shit load of 2D platformers coming out every month due to indie developers, not that they are bad but for what is supposed to be the source of innovation Super Mario with a twist just isnt enough for a 10$ game, a flash game at best. 3D platformers were never that good either way because of the lack of depth but there were still some cool ones.

OT: I was born in 93 so... yeah, I dont have much, for me the world back then was made of puppies that crapped rainbows
 

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josemlopes said:
scorptatious said:
BreakfastMan said:
The over-saturation of 2D platformers. Seriously, most of those 2D mascot platformers sucked heavily. Not sad to see those gone.
And 3D platformer collect-a-thons. Sure, some of my favorite games like Spyro, Banjo Kazooie, and Super Mario 64 technically fall under that list, (in fact Super Mario 64 probably helped popularized the genre), but there were a lot of them back then. It's sort of like today where we have an over-saturation of shooters.

Well... maybe not so much now, I really don't remember any AAA FPS's besides Black Ops 2 releasing this year, so maybe that fad is finally starting to die down.
I have been searching for some 3D platformers and honestly there weren't that many, even worse now that there are a shit load of 2D platformers coming out every month due to indie developers, not that they are bad but for what is supposed to be the source of innovation Super Mario with a twist just isnt enough for a 10$ game, a flash game at best. 3D platformers were never that good either way because of the lack of depth but there were still some cool ones.

OT: I was born in 93 so... yeah, I dont have much, for me the world back then was made of puppies that crapped rainbows
There were a ton of them, it's just that most of them were things like Earthworm Jim 3D and Bubsy 3D -- absolutely terrible, and usually 3D entries in a 2D series that killed all chances of further sequels for being so bad. The lists you're seeing are so short because the list of 3D platformers worth playing is so short, with just about everything being made by either Nintendo or Rare.
 

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Owyn_Merrilin said:
Spade Lead said:
Pietari Heliste said:
Car design was at an all time low.
Zack Alklazaris said:
Car Styles: Seriously the nasty boxy car style had to go.
I am going to single every one of you out and refer you to my <url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.394710-Stuff-we-DONT-Miss-from-the-90s?page=4#16010068>list.
Your list is full of super cars. The average car was butt ugly for the early-mid 90's, although there was an improvement towards the end of the decade.

Here, have that picture of a '92 mustang again:

This was exactly the problem. I couldn't find a decent looking car for under 35 grand till the mid 2000s. Throughout time there has been beautiful looking cars, but most of them have been for the upper class. It wasn't until computers took off that it became cheap to manufacture slender rounded looking cars off a mass production line.
 

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I was only born in 93, so I remember very little from the 90s. I do, however, remember the music being god awful, and computers being useless. MS-DOS and dial up internet... ah, I do not miss you at all. The sound of dial up internet still haunts me sometimes...
yes, it's called dubstep 8D

Things I do not miss:
- Overly preachy cartoons with ham-handed morals... though I honestly can only remember Captain Planet. Still, ughhhh.
- the pop music of that time (then again, pop tends to suck no matter the decade). At least you guys didn't grow up with the Kelly Family. Dear lord, the pain. THE PAIN!!!!
- awkward teenage years and puberty (though that might've been just me)
- Mario vs Sonic rivalry. It was dumbfuck stupid back then and looking back it's even more embarrassing (though if I recall correctly it was mostly Sega trying to poke Nintendo)
- Nintendo's marketing. The Zelda and mario cartoons and dear lord Captain N. I know they aired it in '89 but I still push it into the 90s. Not that the slightly disturbing "Wii would like to play" was that much better :/


aaand there's a lot of other stuff I forgot and that others already mentioned.