Sigmar ov The Hammer said:
Coraxian said:
I believe Troy wasn't a city in present day Turkey, but in present day England.
At least, I see the chances of that assumption being true above 50%.
This is an intriguing idea.
Please explain.
Well, the theory was posed by a linguist who was translating the Iliad. He noticed the mention of a sea dark as red wine (not your every day mediteranian) and misty days. The extensive use of charriots, the practise of using two champions to settle a fight, saving both armies. Things like that. This got him to wonder whether the Achaeans (often translated to Greeks) might not be Greek, but of Celtic origin. Other factors come into play, like the tradition of the long epic songs by bards to convey history (read: the Iliad).
There's a whole book about the thing. Some assumptions are wilder than others: in the second half, concerning the Odyssey, he has a theory that that whole story is a map to travel to America and back, but he also brings some interesting arguments.
One of the strongest arguments for me were the names of the rivers described in the Iliad as surounding Troy in certain directions. Since names of rivers in europe often date back to very ancient times (the Romans were a practical people, why find a new name for a river if the people you've just decimated already had a perfectly recyclable one), the fact that there are 12 rivers described in the Iliad with a position relative to Troy and the fact that they can be located around an old hillfort in Cambridge, England (across the channel for the Achaeans), I got intrigued. Most fo the names were quite recognisable: Rhesus had turned into Rhee, Rhodius into Roding, Temes into Thames, Simoïs and Satinoïs into Great Ouse and Little Ouse respectively and so on.
To make a long story short (remember, he was able to write a whole book about it all): if I have to chose between archeologists that went looking in the mediteranian by default, where I'm sure plenty of ruined cities still remain hidden, or the speculations (which they are) above, I'm going with the zany speculations for once.
The fact that it all happened over 3000 years ago makes it not that big of an everyday issue in any case. At worst a bad dinner party conversation.