Stupid Argument I need to show off.

[Smokeydubbs]

Person B sounds quite childish.

Though, honestly, posting this on public forums? Not the most mature thing either.

It is, I admit that, but getting a different perspective on this might of allowed me to take a step back and say "Hey, I was wrong, I'm sorry". But I'm learning that I was right, so oh well. Me posting this is mainly a logical thing, not a "OMG THIS GUY IS AN IDIOT". It is starting to look like the latter though...

Are you guys in separate provinces/states/cities or something? Maybe in different countries? If you went to school in Australia and he's from the states and maybe the other two are in Canada, I could see him wanting to be in the same server to chat. If you go to the same university, you see each other on a regular basis, then I don't see the problem with wanting a little bit of separation in a vent server so that you can actually hear each other. He's playing CoD4, God only knows how loud I would get when I played that. Not just from my dying rage, but from laughing at stuff, joking around, etc. I would record it and play it back for him. Play in the same vent server, and let them play CoD and record it all so that he sees "Shit, you can't hear anything the other guy is saying..." and if you're playing a game to have fun, doing good is usually a good way to have fun, and being able to talk leads to doing good.

No, we literally live across the street from each other. He can talk to me whenever he wants or even call me.

 

[Saelune]

He is in the wrong. A same situation, 4 people, 2 different games, and we were all in the same xbox live party. Both sides agreed it would be better to seperate than talk over eachother talking about their specific game.

 

[triggrhappy94]

One hell of an OP. I'll have to get back to you on this.

 

[Scarim Coral]

Person B is in the wrong, he sound a bit paranoid as in he think he probably talk behind your back quite alot.
Beside it would make sense to have seperate chatroom since you're playing different games since if it was just one you will be often saying "No I mean Game A not ame B".

 

[zephae]

It is, I admit that, but getting a different perspective on this might of allowed me to take a step back and say "Hey, I was wrong, I'm sorry". But I'm learning that I was right, so oh well. Me posting this is mainly a logical thing, not a "OMG THIS GUY IS AN IDIOT". It is starting to look like the latter though...

My solution would be to use push-to-talk and bind some keys for private/whisper chat. That way you can either stay in same channel and talk about two different games or you talk to each other from two different channels when you feel like.

 

[godofallu]

Person B is clingy and easily offended.

Person A defended himself by in a scientific manner and not a personal manner, which was a clear mistake.

I'd say 2 days from now you two will order a pizza and be friends again. This isn't the kind of thing that lasts a while.

 

[Thaius]

I've run into this sometimes on Xbox Live, especially now that my girlfriend started gaming and isn't yet used to it enough to be able to focus on a game and teamchatting with someone else talking over us. But most of my friends understand. It's very plainly not a personal attack, it's simply a matter of being able to strategize and communicate properly in the game.

I get the feeling Person B would be the type to say, "It's just a game!" whenever you start getting competitive and taking the game seriously. And those people annoy me. Sure, if you're cussing out your friends over it, you may be getting too into it. But taking it seriously as a competition in which you want to perform your best is not going too far; that's what competition is about. And in most online games, being able to talk to your teammates is a valuable part of that goal.

In short, Player B was being immature and stupid about it. He couldn't understand that some people take their playing seriously and it's not an attack against him.

 

[Jun_Jun]

I have a friend like that who is quite controlling, you either have to do things his way the moment he says so or put up with a big dramatic bitchfest which you have to solve over the course of 2 weeks, which usually involves you having to apologise profusely and do what he wants so you don't start up the cycle again. (this is probably why I don't talk to him anymore...)

Spoiler

This scenario happened about a month ago, I invite a couple of friends over to have some drinks maybe play some games and generally hang out and chill (it was a weeknight). Friends decide we should invite 'whiner' to come hang out since if he found out we were enjoying ourselves without him he'd probably have one of his 'dramas', so we invite him over just saying that we're hanging out might play AVP later on so he could bring his computer. He comes around about 30 mins later, brings his computer in sets it up and starts rounding everyone up to come get off their asses and play EVE online with him, me and my fiance argued with him saying we're not going to play EVE (since 3 of the people there played EVE and quit because they didn't like it, me included), we asked if he would sit down and relax with us since we were just hanging out and chatting. He starts chucking a bitchfest, while we say we don't like EVE and we don't want to play it, besides y'know him wanting us to renew our subscriptions so we could play with him (ie pay to play a game we really don't want to waste anymore money on). I say if he wanted to play EVE with his friends he could've just stayed home, we had this get together to be social and maybe play a few LAN games together. He eventually shut up and went into a huff, played a couple of rounds of AVP and left, he later deleted not only all of us from his Steam list of friends, he also deleted everyone from our extended group of friends, and refused to talk to us or pick up his phone when we called him. Ok so before you go thinking this guy is 17-18 years old he isn't, he's 28, he has a fiance whom he has been engaged to for nearly 3 years and doesn't want to tie the knot any time soon (I mean wtf are you getting engaged for? Are you just sticking her on layby or something?). Oh and he had a awesome self run buisiness (he used to network for large companies and earn about 5-10k a pop each time), but he didn't want to constantly work so he would do one job a month or so just to keep himself going, I think that's what annoys me the most the guy is really smart but he's just so lazy, if he kept up that business and constantly did networking and tech support and what have you, he could have his own house and live quite comfortably with his fiance.

Sorry I needed to get that off my chest, ok as for the relevance to this thread, I guess you can't wait for the guy to grow up, and go back to being friends these sort of people will always be this way, I mean I've known this guy my whole life and just over the past few years he's been getting progressively worse and worse.

Sorry if I haven't really added to the discussion but I thought I would put in my own two cents.

 

[Smokeydubbs]

I have a friend like that who is quite controlling, you either have to do things his way the moment he says so or put up with a big dramatic bitchfest which you have to solve over the course of 2 weeks, which usually involves you having to apologise profusely and do what he wants so you don't start up the cycle again. (this is probably why I don't talk to him anymore...)

Spoiler

This scenario happened about a month ago, I invite a couple of friends over to have some drinks maybe play some games and generally hang out and chill (it was a weeknight). Friends decide we should invite 'whiner' to come hang out since if he found out we were enjoying ourselves without him he'd probably have one of his 'dramas', so we invite him over just saying that we're hanging out might play AVP later on so he could bring his computer. He comes around about 30 mins later, brings his computer in sets it up and starts rounding everyone up to come get off their asses and play EVE online with him, me and my fiance argued with him saying we're not going to play EVE (since 3 of the people there played EVE and quit because they didn't like it, me included), we asked if he would sit down and relax with us since we were just hanging out and chatting. He starts chucking a bitchfest, while we say we don't like EVE and we don't want to play it, besides y'know him wanting us to renew our subscriptions so we could play with him (ie pay to play a game we really don't want to waste anymore money on). I say if he wanted to play EVE with his friends he could've just stayed home, we had this get together to be social and maybe play a few LAN games together. He eventually shut up and went into a huff, played a couple of rounds of AVP and left, he later deleted not only all of us from his Steam list of friends, he also deleted everyone from our extended group of friends, and refused to talk to us or pick up his phone when we called him. Ok so before you go thinking this guy is 17-18 years old he isn't, he's 28, he has a fiance whom he has been engaged to for nearly 3 years and doesn't want to tie the knot any time soon (I mean wtf are you getting engaged for? Are you just sticking her on layby or something?). Oh and he had a awesome self run buisiness (he used to network for large companies and earn about 5-10k a pop each time), but he didn't want to constantly work so he would do one job a month or so just to keep himself going, I think that's what annoys me the most the guy is really smart but he's just so lazy, if he kept up that business and constantly did networking and tech support and what have you, he could have his own house and live quite comfortably with his fiance.

Sorry I needed to get that off my chest, ok as for the relevance to this thread, I guess you can't wait for the guy to grow up, and go back to being friends these sort of people will always be this way, I mean I've known this guy my whole life and just over the past few years he's been getting progressively worse and worse.

Sorry if I haven't really added to the discussion but I thought I would put in my own two cents.

Good disclosure. It's very relevant to this in the fact that he throws bitchfests over small things.

While I do feel a tad uncomfortable bringing this drama on here, it's kinda just boiled over. This guy does this regularly. He argues against facts and disregards them completely. Then when he realizes he's wrong, he will dedicate himself to pissing me off so I lose focus and argue like him by insulting each other. IT'S FUCKING ANNOYING!

I get the feeling Person B would be the type to say, "It's just a game!" whenever you start getting competitive and taking the game seriously. And those people annoy me. Sure, if you're cussing out your friends over it, you may be getting too into it. But taking it seriously as a competition in which you want to perform your best is not going too far; that's what competition is about. And in most online games, being able to talk to your teammates is a valuable part of that goal.

Actually, he does say that. Then right after he breaks his mouse because someone in CoD 4 is "hacking". He has gone through bunches of mice and keyboards in rage fits. And even a monitor...