Stupid conspiracys
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The really silly thing is that there are way more plausible theories about how the US government could have caused 9/11 but the conspiracy theorists seem to focus on the really complex and complicated ones. eg a few well placed intelligence operatives could have made sure that a group of terrorists were able to enter the US and get pilot training without raising red flags. Actually rigging the Twin Towers to explode would have been completely necessary.Hazy992 said:
The illuminati is one of the more consistently bandied about stupid conspiracies. Along with 9/11 "truth"ers and people who think the moon landing was a hoax.
On the bright side, you could combine every single person who believes in those theories into one person and nearly equal the IQ of one average person.
On the bright side, you could combine every single person who believes in those theories into one person and nearly equal the IQ of one average person.
I'm not American so it doesn't have much meaning to me, but personally I've always considered the Kennedy assassination feasible.Kyrian007 said:
The point of a conspiracy is that you don't know about it, so it isn't correct to say they don't exist at all. Something like Enron for example was a conspiracy at one point, just one that failed badly. The key is that rather than jumping to whacky conclusions you have to apply some basic logistic and strategic thinking, as well as a little bit of occums razor. For example large nations like the US aren't past using false flag operations. During the Cold War the CIA came up with plans for Cuba to shoot down a fake airliner carrying made up college students. Compared to this flying two airliners into the WTC is really pushing excessive, but it would get the job done.
And that's kind of the point, that act alone would create the desired effect. Taking it one step further and running a controlled demolition on the two buildings to make damn sure they fell down, then for some reason running a controlled demolition on the third smaller tower, and I guess at some point their budget ran a little low so they said **** it and rather than getting another plain just shot a damn missile at the Pentagon... well yeah, not much to say there. These form the primary basis of 'Truther' conspiracies yet I've never seen an explanation as to why logistically any of this after the initial crash was necessary to create the desired effect.
The bigger the conspiracy is and the more people it requires, the less likely it's true. Go in reverse and the feasibility increases. That's why I give the Kennedy assassination a pass. I have no idea if the CIA killed Kennedy or not, but the point is if they wanted to dispose a president (being in the middle of the Cold War and all) this would be a text book example of how to do it. Keep it small scale and simple.
Conspiracy theories are brilliant! they are generally a comic gift that just keeps on giving especially when you get into arguments with people who believe the most batshit insane ones.
My favourite at the moment has to be that the music business is mostly run by the Illuminati who are using song lyrics, music videos and imagery to secretly brainwash us to follow their agenda!
Artists such as Lady Gaga, Madonna, Katy Perry, Paramore, Kanye West, Jay-Z and many others are actually trying to brainwash us all apparently!
My favourite at the moment has to be that the music business is mostly run by the Illuminati who are using song lyrics, music videos and imagery to secretly brainwash us to follow their agenda!
Artists such as Lady Gaga, Madonna, Katy Perry, Paramore, Kanye West, Jay-Z and many others are actually trying to brainwash us all apparently!
Couple of people have said this one, but it's one of the best.
The Moon Landing Hoax.
Ohhh God the hours of enjoyment there is to be had watching videos and reading articles written by these people. I've seen quite a few but don't have the links, but just search it on YouTube and take your pick.
In one video the guy claimed (like, a 20-something-year-old guy) that we couldn't possibly have flown to the Moon because the Moon changes shape and there'd be no way of knowing what shape it'd be once we got there. Same guy also claimed the Moon didn't actually exist, really, and that it was just a projection in the sky. We HAD a Moon once, because they needed it to tell time back when they didn't have a universal written calendar, but now that we do have one, we don't need the Moon anymore (and it just disappeared, I suppose?) so we just use the projection because it looks pretty..?
Different video claimed that there'd be no gravity on the Moon because there was no air, so we wouldn't be able to walk on it like they did in the landing footage.
The Moon Landing Hoax.
Ohhh God the hours of enjoyment there is to be had watching videos and reading articles written by these people. I've seen quite a few but don't have the links, but just search it on YouTube and take your pick.
In one video the guy claimed (like, a 20-something-year-old guy) that we couldn't possibly have flown to the Moon because the Moon changes shape and there'd be no way of knowing what shape it'd be once we got there. Same guy also claimed the Moon didn't actually exist, really, and that it was just a projection in the sky. We HAD a Moon once, because they needed it to tell time back when they didn't have a universal written calendar, but now that we do have one, we don't need the Moon anymore (and it just disappeared, I suppose?) so we just use the projection because it looks pretty..?
Different video claimed that there'd be no gravity on the Moon because there was no air, so we wouldn't be able to walk on it like they did in the landing footage.
The whole "AIDS doesn't exist! It's a plot by big pharma to sell more drugs to us!" that was going on in Africa. I don't know how prevalent it is today because it was unhealthy for my sanity. Christ how stupid can people be?
Excuse me, I need to go strangle a pillow.
Excuse me, I need to go strangle a pillow.
My favorite was developed over a long night of drinking, it doesn't work anymore since Bush left office, but it always put a smile on my face. (U.S.A. related obviously.)
Vice President Dick Cheney was going to pay someone to assassinate President Bush. Upon taking office as the President, Cheney was going to declare the assassination very solid proof that domestic terrorism was at unheard of levels and we just weren't able to stop it. (We all remember anything that went wrong was a 'domestic terrorism attack' back then.) Using the same feverish ambition that put the Patriot Act into effect, he was going to declare martial law, grab at power, and end up removing congress completely. Under martial law no election would take place, and BINGO, Emperor Cheney. (For the Sci-Fi nerds, I pictured it happening just like it did in Babylon 5.)
With the right PR, I bet it could have happened back then. Sadly, looking at our political parties now, I almost wish it would've happened. At least then someone could've staged a revolt that might have had a chance to fix our political system. (Please note, I don't know HOW to fix the political system, but I'm fairly sure we could build a better government now to better fit the needs of our people.)
Vice President Dick Cheney was going to pay someone to assassinate President Bush. Upon taking office as the President, Cheney was going to declare the assassination very solid proof that domestic terrorism was at unheard of levels and we just weren't able to stop it. (We all remember anything that went wrong was a 'domestic terrorism attack' back then.) Using the same feverish ambition that put the Patriot Act into effect, he was going to declare martial law, grab at power, and end up removing congress completely. Under martial law no election would take place, and BINGO, Emperor Cheney. (For the Sci-Fi nerds, I pictured it happening just like it did in Babylon 5.)
With the right PR, I bet it could have happened back then. Sadly, looking at our political parties now, I almost wish it would've happened. At least then someone could've staged a revolt that might have had a chance to fix our political system. (Please note, I don't know HOW to fix the political system, but I'm fairly sure we could build a better government now to better fit the needs of our people.)
Here's another awesomely hilarious site; I'm linking to an article on the site that is greatly relevant to this particular thread for the awesome comedic value it brings.Mimsofthedawg said:
http://www.naturalnews.com/032293_gullible_minds.html
I really do hope it's real, and not satire. Either way it's great for a laugh.
I only heard of the "dihydrogen monoxide" stuff recently (like within the last month) and I was astonished by how many people DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS. It takes not even a basic understanding of chemistry and the English language/numerical words to get.Mimsofthedawg said:
Di = two
Mono = one
Dihydrogen = Two hydrogen
Monoxide = one oxygen
What has two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom? H2O? Quite right, indeed!
Really, it's not that hard.
As a parent of a 3 year old there is one vaccine however that, had he not required it before he was 5, I would have absolutely refused. The fucking chicken pox vaccine! Not that I think that it has anything to do with a conspiracy, but it only lasts 10 years and when you hit your teens, and catch chicken pox, it becomes a deadly virus! It just flat out isn't safe in the long run.Esotera said:
OT: My favorite batshit crazy conspiracy theory is the "Paul McCartney is dead" thing. Now I think he's an absolute tool, and the in all my least favorite Beatle, the amount of cover-up work that had to go into it is more than a little ridiculous .
The lizard rulers, the Illuminati, the moon landing was a hoax and all the others. The one theory I think could have a (very very small) chance of being true is the government covering up contact with aliens. I don't believe anything without evidence first.