Stupidest reason to shoot down a game

[LeighAlura]

After watching Yahtzee's review of Shadow of the Colossus, my friend stated that Starcraft was for cowards and proceeded to state that he would never play it.

I wouldn't mind if he would have stated some more valid reasons, but calling it a cowards game and then simply ignoring it seemed a little bit ridiculous.

A coward's game is when it's modded so that you can't possibly win.

Starcraft is just RTS.

I don't see how it could be a coward's game, unless by "coward" you mean "people who play non-competitively, or don't typically play first-person shooters as much as they do other game genres".

And even that's a bullshit claim.

No, if you watched Yahtzee's review, he called it a coward game because you simply looked down from above as you ordered thousands of units to their death without having to experience the battle firsthand. He basically implied that you would rather watch a fight and think you have some input than actually fight the fight and try to win.

I did see the review. Hell, I read the XP that came with it. And I guess that does kind of kill the experience if you're not one of those guys that plays RTS games and doesn't really want to, but for people like me - that is, people with no real preference - to call it a coward's game because you're not right in the action is a farce. Sometimes, I like being able to not die myself when playing a game, you know? After fifty billion melee hits and bullets to the head, I kind of want to stop being the main protagonist and play god for a bit, because, and I don't care what anybody says to the contrary, being up front all the time SUCKS. I like changes in my gaming, is that so wrong?

 

[TerranReaper]

After watching Yahtzee's review of Shadow of the Colossus, my friend stated that Starcraft was for cowards and proceeded to state that he would never play it.

I wouldn't mind if he would have stated some more valid reasons, but calling it a cowards game and then simply ignoring it seemed a little bit ridiculous.

A coward's game is when it's modded so that you can't possibly win.

Starcraft is just RTS.

I don't see how it could be a coward's game, unless by "coward" you mean "people who play non-competitively, or don't typically play first-person shooters as much as they do other game genres".

And even that's a bullshit claim.

No, if you watched Yahtzee's review, he called it a coward game because you simply looked down from above as you ordered thousands of units to their death without having to experience the battle firsthand. He basically implied that you would rather watch a fight and think you have some input than actually fight the fight and try to win.

That's also something I hate about people not liking RTS games, people always claim it's just point, click and watch the soldiers do their work and that's about it. I can only name a few RTS games where that is actually the case, but even then, you will be outplayed if you just leave them there by themselves.

OT: Graphics is also a very common one, and it really pisses me off to see people mistake "art style" with "lower quality graphics" as a reason to hate games (such as TF2).

On a more obscured note in the mods for Half Life 2, it also annoys me that people walk into mods expecting a game with everything working and to be a high production game when the mod clearly says it's a beta version, or when they complain that the mod should have more of the features that a certain popular modern time shooter.

 

[The Lost Big Boss]

On Gears of War.

Friend: It's a bad game.
Me: WHAT?! Are you high? It's like the best multiplayer game availble on consoles (Even though I said this in 2007, I maintain this remains the same of the original today)
Friend: Nah it sucks, you move to slowly -
Me: - Hold A to run idiot.
Friend: It's third person and I have to get in cover -
Me: Yeah that's why it's good! Add's a dimension to the game.
Friend: It's not enough like Halo, aiming is too hard
Me: *facepalm* you don't deserve to own a video game console.

I think its a bad game and I will debate with you on our reasons.

I hate the control scheme. I have never understood why it is move like a tank, or run in only one direction. I had this problem with Resistance 2, it was walk slowly or sprint too fast, what ever happened to a good brisk walk and sprint option?

I can't believe you think multilayer was good. I admit the first one was ok, it held my attention for a month but it just got stupid. Every single round would end the same, people rolling around trying to shotgun each other. I can't speak for the second one because I couldn't even play it, it was broken for a very very long time and that is not negotiable.

The characters are more like robots trying to imitate human emotion. I would have felt bad for Dom if there was any character development, instead we get shoehorned this love story right from the start with no relations what so ever. It's a bad mid-day drama. If they just stuck with "Kill shit because we want to survive" and act all desperate than I would have bought it
and I would have no problem with them, but like I said it's adding simulated emotions to a tin can.

I am not shitting on you for liking the game, I am just stating my reasons for not liking it. Now swing away at me.

 

[Ziggy109]

A buddy of mine insisted that every game using the Unreal Engine 3 was horrible and wouldn't play them. He loved Gears of War, Mass Effect, and Rainbow Six: Vegas, though. *shrug*

 

[Digitaldreamer7]

"You can't relate to the characters" really? who really gives a fuck about that? There is no game where you can really relate to a character....unless it's the sims

I think you are confusing being related (family) to relate (have empathy for, find common ground in a struggle)

There are plenty of games where you can relate to (empathize) with the characters.

Not many you can feel related to.

 

[Blemontea]

Becuase its a "_____ Clone" or clone hybrid, Just because its a clone doesn't mean it isn't badly executed or not fun. besides the word GTA clone is thrown around so much its lost all meaning

 

[theSovietConnection]

"It's unrealistic"

F--k off.

I play games to get away from reality.

This is really subjective. If a person wants a realistic game, obviously an unrealistic one is going to suck in their eyes.

I think the worst reason to hate a game I've come across (and this was one of my friends, not on the site, mind you) was "because Yahtzee tore it apart", my friend evidently not realising that's kind of his job on this site.

On the other end of the stupid reason spectrum, I think the worst reason to say one game is better then the other is because of the mods for it, something I've seen on many Morrowind vs Oblivion threads.

 

[Mr. Gency]

When talking about Halo Wars: "You can't shoot with the right trigger."

"I don't like it, so it sucks."

At first I lol'd

Somebody literally said this to me when I said that I enjoyed Team Fortress 2.

Then I serious'd.

 

[LeighAlura]

When talking about Halo Wars: "You can't shoot with the right trigger."

"I don't like it, so it sucks."

At first I lol'd

Somebody literally said this to me when I said that I enjoyed Team Fortress 2.

Then I serious'd.

And theeeeeeeeeen?

 

[Mafoobula]

My brother did not like Chrono Cross. Did he play all of it? No. Does he remember how much he played? Not really. Is it every bit as good as Chrono Trigger? My brother and I played Chrono Trigger at the absolute height of impressionability, when nostalgia is at its strongest, so, not really.
Also, not a single word about the heart-breakingly gorgeous art or soundtrack. I guess that, like the game in general, he doesn't think anything could top Magus's theme.

So, I guess my contribution to the topic is to mention how nostalgia can sometimes seriously skew a person's opinion of a game.
Perfect example: Pokemon. For some reason, there's a fair chunk of gamers who think the Pokemon series outright SUCKED after Gold/Silver, and they'll happily shout that opinion from the rooftops. How much would you like to bet there's an even crazier sect of those same nostalgia-worshippers that hated HeartGold/SoulSilver, even though they're the EXACT same games as back then, just with some more stuff thrown in?
Even funnier are the people who keep saying that World of Warcraft is ruined, and they've been saying that even before the first expansion. Meanwhile, subscriber numbers keep going up.

Here's a great one: Hating a game because you hate the people who play it.
Halo, for all the flack it gets, is one of the games that defines its genre, and is likely THE most popular online game other than WoW; think what you want of it, but it is FAR from being a bad game. And yet, there are some people who might hate the GAME because a bunch of frat boy douchebags happen to like it.

 

[zombiejoe]

"Kirby games suck because he's pink."
....... STUPID!

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that's a good one

 

[Mr. Gency]

When talking about Halo Wars: "You can't shoot with the right trigger."

"I don't like it, so it sucks."

At first I lol'd

Somebody literally said this to me when I said that I enjoyed Team Fortress 2.

Then I serious'd.

And theeeeeeeeeen?

I quoted you then you quoted me while I was catching up with Critical Miss updates.

 

[zombiejoe]

Dumbest Reason to Shoot Down a Game:

Racism.

IT HAS BLACK PEOPLE IN IT IT'S RACIST!

You know what game i'm talking about.

Um...Megaman?

lol jk I think I know what you mean.

 

[smashmaniac64]

(if theres guns) its just gonna be another halo/COD ripoff
(no guns) its not hardcore enough
(nintendo) nintendo is only for kids

 

[LeighAlura]

When talking about Halo Wars: "You can't shoot with the right trigger."

"I don't like it, so it sucks."

At first I lol'd

Somebody literally said this to me when I said that I enjoyed Team Fortress 2.

Then I serious'd.

And theeeeeeeeeen?

I quoted you then you quoted me while I was catching up with Critical Miss updates.

Meanwhile, I was damn close to falling asleep on my keyboard.

I need to go to bed...

 

[Mr. Gency]

When talking about Halo Wars: "You can't shoot with the right trigger."

"I don't like it, so it sucks."

At first I lol'd

Somebody literally said this to me when I said that I enjoyed Team Fortress 2.

Then I serious'd.

And theeeeeeeeeen?

I quoted you then you quoted me while I was catching up with Critical Miss updates.

Meanwhile, I was damn close to falling asleep on my keyboard.

I need to go to bed...

Good night.

 

[hollowminds]

"Im not nerdy enough to try starcraft 2" - COD:MW2 Fanboy friend
"Its on the Wii" - Myself

I admit to shooting alot of games down due to being on the Wii, but i really dislike playing on the Wii and it puts me in a bad mindset. Due to paying the $400 on release for it and playing Twilight princess once. Its not a great attitude but i feel cheated.

 

[zombiejoe]

"The reviewers said it was terrible"

I swear if I hear that one more time I'll eat this chair.

EDIT: apparently I have to clarify, I dont like it when I say: "I want buy [insert game of choice here]" and a certain friend of mine replies that such and such said the game was shite.

Yes. This!
Apparently I'm not allowed to buy Alpha Protocol. I bought it knowing the reviews were bad, it's just that I liked what I saw, and I got exactly what I was hoping for. But somehow whenever it gets mentioned people roll their eyes and say it was stupid of me to have bought it, before they have even played it!
Bah, so annoying.

I loved Alpha Protocol. I don't understand why people hated it so much. Sure the controls where a little weird sometimes, but if you work with them it becomes a fine game.

 

[Romblen]

"It's not a real game like Modern Warfare 2."