Stupidest thing that someone has come back at you with in an argument.

[Averant]

"You're a communist!"

My brother will sometimes half-jokingly make this argument against me. I remind him that I am not a communist, and that even if I were, it doesn't change the argument any.

Of all my time here on the escapist, these three posts in particular struck me as exceptionally week logic:

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so you admit that having a gun increases the risk of suicide... but thats ok because overall people still kill themselves. a gun INCREASES the risk of a kid killing themselves. how can you possible say it is not a good idea to reduce the number of guns available to them, unless your all for killing kids.

well thats 2 people that prefer to kill kids then give up easy access to firearms. americans, always have been seen as the selfish self centered type

by advocating gun ownership you are indirectly supporting the killing of kids. you can ignore and call it false all you want, that isnt going to make it so. logic obviously does not go over with you guys, maybe we should be trying guilt

Basically, because I disagree about firearms policy, I'm in favor of killing kids. I'm just... wounded by that

And THAT is why I keep telling people logic is not logical. Sure, you can have a leap of logic. That doesn't mean everyone is leaping in the same direction. Also, reonhato apparently never realized that there are multiple ways to kill yourself in any given situation. Guns do not increase the risk of suicide; a bridge does the job just fine.

EDIT: Also? [a href="http://www.cracked.com/article/149_5-self-destructive-ways-people-accidentally-cured-themselves/?wa_user1=5&wa_user2=Weird+World&wa_user3=article&wa_user4=recommended"]Doesn't always work.[/a] Number 5.

 

[yundex]

You can pretty much spend five minutes reading this very forum and find responses that qualify for the thread title.

 

[Phisi]

"You're wrong, I'm right". I seem to get that a lot from arguing with fascists. They tend to have some superiority complex and in order to maintain this have to believe they are always right or something. Funnily enough this was about homosexuality.

 

[Dungeons]

"Nobody cares!"

God I fucking hate this one. Someone starts an argument with you, so you start to actually explain your point of view to them, or disproving theirs, using facts, evidence, and logic in the hope that you might achieve something more than an endless back and forth of "You're wrong!"/"No, you're wrong!". But then, when it twigs that they don't actually have any ammunition to back up their opinion, they bail with something along the lines of "Don't shit yourself about it. Man, why do you have to get so serious about everything? Nobody cares!"; and then they act all smug and superior, as if quitting before you can lose is equivalent to a victory. Best part is, if you refuse to accept this bullshit tactic and continue regardless, you now get painted as an uptight wanker, and they just get to sit there, marinating in their own ego in front of their equally idiotic friends

Oh, how I would just love to be able to reply without consequence... "Well, obviously you care, otherwise why would you start the fucking argument in the first place, let alone bail because you're too afraid of looking bad in public as your precious little opinions get torn to pieces by the guy who's actually thought his side through, YOU FUCK?!"

What do you think the Youtube comments section is for?

 

[Unsilenced]

It wasn't a reply to me, but I saw an argument on youtube where a guy said that the reason weed was illegal because it gave off "good vibes" and the New World Order or whatever only wanted drugs that gave off "bad vibes" like tobacco and alcohol.

I've been dumber ever since.




Oh, and then there was the guy who was arguing for eugenics and called "godwin's law" when I pointed out a few examples of applied eugenics.

Protip for everyone out there: Godwin's law does not apply when you're actually recommending that we exterminate people.

 

[Diddy_Mao]

"Well if we turned into monkeys why are there still monkeys in the jungle?"

or

"Evolution is just a theory!"

These arguments completely knock the wind out of my sails.
Not because they're flawless in their impeccable logic but because I know that anyone who uses them is so ingrained in their own pig ignorance that any further discussion is pointless.

 

[Andy Shandy]

I suppose it's not really an argument, but whenever I complain about about something, and somebody says "Oh well, it could be worse". Yes, I'm well aware things could be worse, a lot worse, but that does not automatically mean that I can not complain about something. If so the only person who is allowed to complain is the person who has it the worst in the world.

 

[Rednog]

I was taking a medical ethics class and a group was in charge of presenting the argument for/against anti-aging medicine and this girl says something along the lines of "Anti-aging medicine would be a really big problem because if women lived until they were 400 or so they'd be having kids well into their 200's and 300's that could lead to families just having a ton of kids over so many years and lead to overpopulation."
I was like...wait what? You do know how female eggs work right? You only have so many before they run out.
Her response was "Uhh no, maybe you don't understand this because you're a man but I'm a female and I know about my own body, we make new eggs every month. Maybe you should go take a science class."
I face-palmed for the rest of the class.

 

[Unsilenced]

"Well if we turned into monkeys why are there still monkeys in the jungle?"

or

"Evolution is just a theory!"

These arguments completely knock the wind out of my sails.
Not because they're flawless in their impeccable logic but because I know that anyone who uses them is so ingrained in their own pig ignorance that any further discussion is pointless.

Don't even get me started on that...

Saw an argument in which it was pointed out that pretty much everyone in relevant fields of science believes in evolution, and the dumbass came back with "well almost everyone believed that the Earth was the center of the universe as well. That doesn't make it true!"

Not the only time it's happened either. People seem to like comparing the theory of evolution to flat-earthers or geocentrism.

It's almost like they just don't remember which side of those debates their faith was on.

 

[RustlessPotato]

"If you don't know why i'm angry I just don't see the point in me telling you !" Said to me by an ex of mine. I still don't know why she was angry. She was a nutcase.

 

[Mysterious Druid]

"U mad"

Worst part is, it pisses me off, leading to an endless cycle of shitposting and rage.

 

[Ickorus]

I got called racist the other day for saying something that really wasn't racist.

 

[L. Declis]

When a religious person has used one of the following phrases:

"I feel sorry for you."
"I'll pray for you."
"Your faith in science is no better than mine in religion"
"Well, the Bible says this..."
"The Bible is a legitimate source of information."

Etc, etc. The first two, especially, just really get under my skin. Really, really get under my skin. The rest is simply a response to my many different sources, from philosophy, history and scientific reasons it's highly unlikely there is no God, as if the two are equal.

 

[Yopaz]

"Its just a book, you have no basis for knowing how accurate it is"

Poster that shall remain anonymous in a debate concerning evolution on another forum. Poster in question was speaking about a well accredited and widely used scientific journal, and had based nearly all of his previous arguments on passages from the bible. I might have considered the statement to have been made in an ironic fashion or perhaps in retaliation, but no one involved in the debate questioned the validity of his "source" even once.

Well, if it had just been one book, sure. Out of context it's actually a fairly valid point. Considering he used only one book and that book is known to be written long after the origin of the texts it's among the dumbest things I've ever seen.

Personally my dumbest encounter has been "Read the bible and tell me what it says" on the subject of evolution on and The Big Bang Theory. I proved that I knew the bible better than him and said that the bible actually had two different stories about the creation of the world and the animals jumbled together. Which he denied proving he had not read the bible properly and based his point of view on second hand information.

"Well if we turned into monkeys why are there still monkeys in the jungle?"

or

"Evolution is just a theory!"

These arguments completely knock the wind out of my sails.
Not because they're flawless in their impeccable logic but because I know that anyone who uses them is so ingrained in their own pig ignorance that any further discussion is pointless.

OK, Evolution is just a theory is one of those I really hate getting thrown at me. Because of this I have stopped using the word theory in the same way most people use it. Unless what I say is being thought by several others and there's no indications of it being incorrect I use hypothesis. Maybe one day people will know the true meaning of both words. A guy can dream.

 

[Aprilgold]

Well lets see.
"Your gay."
"No one cares."
"I fucked your mum."
"Its my opinion, therefore it is not flawed."
"Your just flat out incorrect, heres several very shady sources agreeing with me."

These mostly happen online, mind you.