Stupidest thing that someone has come back at you with in an argument.

[Aeonknight]

I'm going to go with our very own Kingthrall, for his absolute gem of an arguement:

"I challenge you to a game of <outdated RTS I can't be bothered to remember/look up here>, put your money where your mouth is!"

... because the deciding factor for the debate on whether or not modern day games can have as much depth as any old school game should be a 1v1 on an outdated game he's been playing for years... I don't even know how he thinks the outcome of said match is relevant to the arguement in any way. But that's trolling for you I suppose.

 

[GamerAddict7796]

"Well if we turned into monkeys why are there still monkeys in the jungle?"

I have always wondered this. It doesn't make much sense too me. NOT saying evolutions not true though.

Because there's more than one kind of primate, isn't there? Evolutionary paths split, and become different species. Thats why there is still 'monkeys in the jungle'.

Okay, thanks for clearing that up for me.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Mostly arguments that end in ad-hominems.

But my "favorite" is the ubiquitous Troll Card.

"I trolled you good!"
Instant get-out-of-bullshit-free card. Losing the argument? Troll Card it away. Try to make it look as though you were acting ironically the whole time (even when that attitude directly contradicts what you just did).

 

[Lovely Mixture]

Or when I argue about human rights violations in China and North Korea when people respond:
"Well other countries do it also" or (I am American BTW) "The U.S. Government doesn't do much better."

Other countries doing bad things does not make it ok (Common-Practice Fallacy), am I a little odd if I might be singling out those two countries? Perhaps, but it's still ignoring the problem and doesn't make me any less wrong.

Pointing out the U.S. Governments problems also ignores the issue, it implies that cause I live in the U.S. that I immediately support everything my government does.

Also stuff like, "the media only tells you what you want to hear" or "the Jews control everything."

 

[GiglameshSoulEater]

Her: "I've never seen Ghostbusters before, sorry I didn't get your joke."
Me: "How could you not have seen Ghostbusters? That movie's been out longer than you've been alive!"
Her: "I'm sorry, I was too busy being molested by my father when I was that age to bother watching movies."
Me: "...There may be less appropriate times to reveal that information, but damned if I can think of any right now."

'Hey, you wanna go waych a film this weekend?'
'Sorry, already set to get molested by my dad.'
'Oh, ok. Next weekend?'

Those are fun. Some I've heard a lot include: "I would be winning all of these arguments with you if it wasn't for your goddamn SCIENCE!"

Now that just sounds cartoonish. Do they shake their fist while saying so at you meddling kids, with your fancy science business?

[snip]

Completely unrelated, but I like your avatar. Just played through System Shock 2 recently.

 

[malestrithe]

Those are fun. Some I've heard a lot include: "I would be winning all of these arguments with you if it wasn't for your goddamn SCIENCE!"

Now that just sounds cartoonish. Do they shake their fist while saying so at you meddling kids, with your fancy science business?

Not really that outlandish, but that has been said to me a lot. There are some people that simply do not know how to debate and need some way to salvage the debate.

 

[Unsilenced]

This off-sets my first argument, but basicly I was arguing with my cousin who was an Atheist just because it was cool for him to be, not because he actually WAS one. We were arguing, and he came up with that gem, to which I curtly responded 'There doesn't need to be evidence, as long as someone believes in him, he exists'. Apparently he didn't understand the concept 'I think, therefore I am', and it confused the hell out of him, quite a show really.

Wait, what?

I believe in unicorns. Therefore, unicorns exist.

If you can't disprove it utterly, it could exist :3 Not to say that it -should- exist, I mean, I don't want to see Cthulu walking around, but no one can disprove that God exists, it's impossible to do.

That's retarded. Nothing is disprovable. By your logic, everything exists.

You can only prove a positive. In order for something to be considered a "fact," it has to clearly outweigh the alternatives in terms of how much the evidence supports it. "You can't prove there's a God" is true, and is a perfectly legitimate reason to disbelieve. "You can't prove there's *not* a God" on the other hand is a logical fallacy.

 

[The Funslinger]

"Nobody cares!"

God I fucking hate this one. Someone starts an argument with you, so you start to actually explain your point of view to them, or disproving theirs, using facts, evidence, and logic in the hope that you might achieve something more than an endless back and forth of "You're wrong!"/"No, you're wrong!". But then, when it twigs that they don't actually have any ammunition to back up their opinion, they bail with something along the lines of "Don't shit yourself about it. Man, why do you have to get so serious about everything? Nobody cares!"; and then they act all smug and superior, as if quitting before you can lose is equivalent to a victory. Best part is, if you refuse to accept this bullshit tactic and continue regardless, you now get painted as an uptight wanker, and they just get to sit there, marinating in their own ego in front of their equally idiotic friends.

Oh, how I would just love to be able to reply without consequence... "Well, obviously you care, otherwise why would you start the fucking argument in the first place, let alone bail because you're too afraid of looking bad in public as your precious little opinions get torn to pieces by the guy who's actually thought his side through, YOU FUCK?!"

I cannot express how much I agree with you enough.

I fucking hate that so much. You essentially destroy them in a matter of seconds and they pull that bullshit and you can't do anything as all the other baaing sheep in the room start to parrot what the person said and you end up looking like an asshole if you try to say anything more on the topic.

Oh, this. I have a friend who uses that, and I finally managed to get him to stop it with that response. You could almost see the hamster turning the wheel in his head have a heart attack and die.

As he'd been pelting the same three points at me for half an hour despite the fact I had numerous reasons against them, I then followed up with "just stop, you've got no debating skills at all!"

His response: "Shut up, you're fucking weak!"

Eh... what?

He then spent the entire day spouting that I was weak, wussy and spineless. I then pointed out that he was so damn spineless that I was one of two people in the school he ever argued with over anything. Everyone else walked all over him, and to prove this, I had actually slapped him every day for a year and he never did shit about it.

 

[The Funslinger]

I don't know, there's been a lot of bad ones.

"You're an Autist" is a pretty common, pathetic one I hear a lot, though.

a fellow /mlp/ browser i assume? i' ve never had it directed at me specifically but i hear it around there a lot.

People throw that around on here? Really?

Gosh, I keep hearing about a side of the Escapist that seems to be populated by shrivel-dicked little 4chan-esque ***** babies, but I'll be darned if I've ever seen it with my own eyes...

Edit: Misread the post. Thought you said you'd heard it hear a lot.

Carry on...

 

[aattss]

I asked someone to prove that FDR's New Deal program ended the Great Depression. He said that the proof was that the Great Depression ended.

 

[Navvan]

This off-sets my first argument, but basicly I was arguing with my cousin who was an Atheist just because it was cool for him to be, not because he actually WAS one. We were arguing, and he came up with that gem, to which I curtly responded 'There doesn't need to be evidence, as long as someone believes in him, he exists'. Apparently he didn't understand the concept 'I think, therefore I am', and it confused the hell out of him, quite a show really.

Wait, what?

I believe in unicorns. Therefore, unicorns exist.

If you can't disprove it utterly, it could exist :3 Not to say that it -should- exist, I mean, I don't want to see Cthulu walking around, but no one can disprove that God exists, it's impossible to do.

I think you are confusing the famous "I think therefore I am" argument with a metaphysical concept of a subjective reality being a true reality. The first simply states I know I exist (in some form) because I think. The second states something exists because I think it exists. They sound similar but are different arguments with differing acceptance.

Also not being able to prove or disprove something, especially something as undefined and flexible as the concept of "God", does not really help the "God exists" argument or hurt the "God doesn't exist" argument. There are an infinite amount of things you can't disprove, and likewise if taken to the most fundamental levels it becomes impossible to prove anything exists (with the exception of the self (I think therefore I am). However there are plenty of attempts to "prove" God doesn't exist that of course make some sort of assumption of the nature of God. The most famous of these is known as the Problem of Evil. Most off these completely logical arguments are often met with "Well God can do it (resolve a paradox the argument points out) because they're God". Likewise the most famous "proofs" for God's existence rely on the same concept (Argument from Design and the Cosmological argument) state essentially the same thing. That God can somehow brush away a paradox because they're God.

That isn't to say there are not valid criticisms for some of the proofs against God's existence or some arguments for God's existence that don't rely on such weak arguments, but that tends to the most common way the arguments go.

 

[Broady Brio]

"Broady Brio, I pay for your private tuition bills, so you will listen to me."

Not if what you say is just plain wrong. It is also irrelevant if you pay my tuition bills or not.

 

[Vigormortis]

While the following is probably not the "worst", it's easily the most common one I get. Especially on this forum.

Uh-hmm....

"You're wrong. And you're only saying that because you're a fan-boy."

I...fucking...hate that. So much.

Not only is using that as a come-back/retort dismissive and insulting, it also often fails to address the point the other person made.

More often than not I receive this lovely retort when I've refuted someone's claims on something, backing up my stance with truth, logic, and (in the very least) some kind of back-ground knowledge on the topic.

So rather than of offering up actual quantifiable evidence, they often just offer up hearsay and repeat the same, already refuted rhetoric and exaggerations. Then, they follow that up by saying that I'm the one making up "facts" because I'm a "blind, sheeple-like fan-boy".

It really speaks to the maturity and intelligence of the person arguing with me. (or lack there of)

Even worse are the (more frequent now-a-days) occasions when these same people, who have previously laid complaints on something from one company (and attacked me for disagreeing), will actively defend the same "something" from another company.

(the whole Day-1/On-Disc DLC for Mass Effect 3 springs to mind. as does the Always-On DRM for Diablo 3)

The level of hypocrisy is quite astounding.

 

[The Diabolical Biz]

His response: "Shut up, you're fucking weak!"

I am reminded so much of this. [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/do-you-even-lift]

OT: Yeah the nobody cares one is a pain in the arse. Apart from that...well I could stroll down R&P and pick a few choice examples.

Actually there are a couple users on here, naming no names, who seem to take this ridiculous condescending high ground in every single little debate they engage in despite making no worthwhile points and offering zero reasonable counter-arguments to the other person's points.

They quote people and say things like 'wrong' and 'try again'. That pisses me off so damn much.

Stop being such an arrogant c-

Ahem.

 

[The Funslinger]

His response: "Shut up, you're fucking weak!"

I am reminded so much of this. [http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/do-you-even-lift]

OT: Yeah the nobody cares one is a pain in the arse. Apart from that...well I could stroll down R&P and pick a few choice examples.

Actually there are a couple users on here, naming no names, who seem to take this ridiculous condescending high ground in every single little debate they engage in despite making no worthwhile points and offering zero reasonable counter-arguments to the other person's points.

They quote people and say things like 'wrong' and 'try again'. That pisses me off so damn much.

Stop being such an arrogant c-

Ahem.

Yeah, they should stop being such arrogant rhymes-with-runts.

As for my friend, he can say what he likes about me. We both decided on military careers. I'm joining the Royal Marines. He was joining the army, then wussed out, wanted to take a public services course to be a police officer, then quit that, too.

 

[The Diabolical Biz]

Yeah, they should stop being such arrogant rhymes-with-runts.

As for my friend, he can say what he likes about me. We both decided on military careers. I'm joining the Royal Marines. He was joining the army, then wussed out, wanted to take a public services course to be a police officer, then quit that, too.

I thought I'd leave it to the imagination.

Spoiler: Like in Asterix.

 

[ThatLankyBastard]

I was having an argument with a friend over religion (I'm an atheist) and I said that I believed religion is just a suggestion of how one should live ones life... then he said "Well why don't you Atheists just go out and start stabbing people! There's nothing stopping you from doing it!"

...yeah...

...other famous comments made by this friend:
-"I'm not racist! I'm just careful..."
-"I'm not homophobic, I just think gay people are unnatural and wrong..."
-"No one has ever been killed over religion..."

EDIT: Oh yeah I remember another one!

"My Little Pony??? Why the hell do you watch that, it's such a stupid show?"
"Have you ever seen it?"
"...No"
"Then how do you have an opinion on it?"
"Any show meant for kids is a stupid show! Grow the fuck up and watch some REAL shows..."
*Spends the next hour arguing how Big Brother and Jersey Show are the greatest shows in existence*

 

[Torrasque]

There a whole lot of "you are gay/homo/like dicks/fag" that I have heard, but the dumbest thing that I've ever heard has been:
"You need to get laid" or some variation of it, coming down to "hey, your opinion is invalid because I have had more sex than you".

It pisses me off because it makes absolutely no sense, and because it is soooooo damn common.
It used to piss me off a lot in the past, but I just ignore it these days because I know it is in the same category as "well your mom!"

 

[Naeras]

"Shut up or God will send you to hell." is probably a classic in my book.

Although the best one was probably during 22nd of July last year. Those of you who didn't live under a rock will know that there was a right-wing extremist who decided that the best way to prevent evil islamists from taking over Norway would be to shoot norwegian kids on a political summer camp. I posted something with news about it, and some git instantly accused me of "oh you're just posting this to get sympathy from everyone on the forums"(granted, I didn't exactly mind sympathy when a bomb had gotten off in my home city and a lunatic was pointing a gun at my stepsister, but whatever). He did five, increasingly angry replies in that thread, all of which got deleted by mods for obvious reasons, and then he PMs me and calls me some stupid shit. When I tell him to kindly shut the fuck up because acting like a prick doesn't help anyone, his reply is:
"Hey, fuck you. All I'm saying is that I don't care about that there's a terrorist attack in your home city."
Right. He doesn't care, yet takes time to post five replies and send me angry PMs, just to prove that he doesn't care. He kinda stopped posting entirely on that forum when I later called him on trying to be cool on the internet by being a dick.

Also, anyone wondering why I was on the internet during that time: I was constantly on the net/phone/whatever to check if anyone I knew had been harmed by the bomb in Oslo. The shooting started an hour later or so.

 

[Gizmo1990]

But it's for kids.

I posted my opinions on the Harry Potter books and I happened to say that I think it is badly writen with plot holes the size of China and charecters doing things that make no sense when there were about 50 other, more sensible, option available to them and the reponse I got from one person was "It's for kids so what do you expect".

I understand that books aimed at kids are simpler than books for adults. But why does the fact that it is for kids excuse plot holes? It's for kids so it does not matter if it makes sense? It's for kids so it does not matter if it is badly writen?