Stupidest thing that someone has come back at you with in an argument.
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Oh god, so much this. The number of Christians I know IRL who actually believe that morality or abiding by the law are dependent on religious belief... *shudders*ThatLankyBastard said:
I usually counter by saying that if the only reason they're not out stabbing and raping is because they think God is watching and won't give them nice things if he catches them, I'm not sure how secure I feel being around them.
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I once moderated a role playing site. A guy there wanted to try for the highest position (IC) available. I tested him and was the tie breaker on whether he should get it. I said no, as it wasn't really good enough (it wasn't BAD as such, but the guy took the phrase "a little mediocre" like I'd just liquified his puppy). After swearing left right and center that I'd destroyed his creativity forever, he loudly proclaimed that I was "like a Jew". This was less insulting than surreal, I found.
I once moderated a role playing site. A guy there wanted to try for the highest position (IC) available. I tested him and was the tie breaker on whether he should get it. I said no, as it wasn't really good enough (it wasn't BAD as such, but the guy took the phrase "a little mediocre" like I'd just liquified his puppy). After swearing left right and center that I'd destroyed his creativity forever, he loudly proclaimed that I was "like a Jew". This was less insulting than surreal, I found.
"A REAL fan would know about X, Y, and Z./A REAL fan would-"
No. Just. Stop right there, take your argument, and go home. Any argument where someone pulled the "I'm a better fan" card on me is one I immediately ceased to take seriously. Just because you've been in a particular fandom longer than me doesn't make you a better fan.
No. Just. Stop right there, take your argument, and go home. Any argument where someone pulled the "I'm a better fan" card on me is one I immediately ceased to take seriously. Just because you've been in a particular fandom longer than me doesn't make you a better fan.
I say something around the same thing, but more troll-ey...Eamar said:
When I hear someone say that (it pops up a surprising bit) I say that all Christians are actually rather selfish because they only do good things to be rewarded in the afterlife... Not because I believe it, but because it really pisses them off...
"You are not X, so you can not have an opinion on X."
In context, always used by people who say I cant be pro-Intervention because I am not a soldier. Well excuse me for thinking we shouldnt just let a dictator commit genocide and kill his own people for the lulz.
In context, always used by people who say I cant be pro-Intervention because I am not a soldier. Well excuse me for thinking we shouldnt just let a dictator commit genocide and kill his own people for the lulz.
Probably not quite as stupid as others here, but whenever I get into an argument about music with someone and they pull the "But look how many albums they sold!" card. It's just a fucking stupid comeback.
Funnily enough, I can usually make them eat their words by telling them how many albums Justin Bieber has sold xD
Funnily enough, I can usually make them eat their words by telling them how many albums Justin Bieber has sold xD
It wasn't necessarily a comeback but the 10th anniversary of 9/11 was coming up and another American said to decorate your armor red white and blue in the game. Quite quickly it turned into people making fun of people who still cared that it happened. I tried to turn it around and give them a different angle on it and said something like " The Holocaust happened like 70 years ago, so people should just get over the damn thing" and some guy completely missed the point of that comment and called me an idiot/ass/American. Then I tried to put it in his perspective off what if people were making calling you a loser for caring about a tragedy that happened to their people, literally going through every thing just to make him see at a different angle. Then he called me a typical American bigot.
Yeah... I had argument once with a girl who was convinced the man was born with the finite amount of sperm... I didn't even know where to start.Rednog said:
But, the worst one I have had to deal with is the "You don't have the answer right now so it must be GOD!!!" eeesh. Just because science doesn't have the answer right now, doesn't mean we are never going to find the answer. Humans didn't used to know how the wind worked or the tides... well some still don't know how they work, but I digress. Over time we have reduced the amount of places for god or gods to hide. Eventually those hiding places for god will be reduced to near zero.
Although I rarely argue (For I dislike conflict--it's way to complicated and it takes effort), on Friday, my best mate and I were having a manly bro-talk about expression and views, and he was kinda tearing me down for most of the things I did (And I gotta admit, it hurt, bro, it hurt).
Like of how I'm positive sort after dealing with my depression through individual work, therefore deciding on self-reliance, stoicism, and a loose code of honor to prove myself as my own person, and let other people have their views on things and keep mind, as it is less stressful and leads to both having a better day. I've been inspired by men of the past through literature and movies, whom I idolize and strive to be like--dare I say, to be better than everyone else, for I am just an average person.
But, in his eye (Which he's kinda in the intermediate of depression in the moment), he thought me of having no expression whatsoever, saying he had a physical art through which to express himself through ceramics whilst keeping my emotions inside had no positive benefit for me. He does whatever he wants, sometimes relying on "other people do it" (In our case, it was pornography), and usually has to express his opinion on a matter, whether people get mad at him or not. He argued with hyperbolic statements (Everyone does it), refutations of my claims (No one can do it--response to how I strive to be an honorable man), and firmly sticking to his side of argument. To be fair, I'm also a living hypocrite, just like one of the characters whom I seek to write out, which didn't help my case in many issues.
In response, I replied to how I had writing my stories to let loose feelings (It's not physical) and band. The cord was struck with my mention of band--a whole spent 6 years going on 7 of my time--saying it was not creative at all, or expressive, as I was just performing someone's work, not putting my own soul into it. He said I was just 'walking around on a field,' doing what people tell me to do, and that it was not artsy.
Now this was a serious affront, as I had spent my last three summers "walking around on a field" (At 180+ bpm, no less; for 8+ minutes and 6 hours a day), and I'm off to do another. As much as I despise marching band, I enjoy it and have a good time, meeting fun people and forming a brotherhood with my fellows (In comparison to the clubs he's tried to join which he's too judgmental and arrogant with other people that he finds them all as assholes). I guess it could be jealousy, or driving force that aspires him to rage and strive to be better than others, I digress, I do not know.
(Sidenote: I do acknowledge that art has no pure definition in a literal application, being judgmental on the matter, but its stated as "The arts are a vast subdivision of culture, composed of many creative endeavors and disciplines")
To this, I could not come up with a witty reply (As for my beginning, I don't normally argue, so therefore I suck at comebacks), but I wanted to, only leaving off with a "see you on Monday, buddy," ignoring the assault, and continued on my way, passing it off as just another hateful comment on me that I've yet to receive in years, but it stuck to my mind with anger that has come to fruition.
Well, what I guess I meant to say was "F*** you, pal," and leave him off with that, but I'm a nice person and dislike arguments. For all I know, he could have completely forgotten the issue entirely and we'd be back to the way things were. *Shrug* For that, I'll make no further mention of it and bear my scars for what it is.
Stoicism and the like, just be an honorable man, even if the statistics of 1 in 10,000 stand against me--For great justice and whatever god(s) of the present serve my cause (The Emperor, the Seven, the Light, the Christian God, Norse, Greek, or whatever false deity who give their soldiers a code of honor and wisdom to follow)
Like of how I'm positive sort after dealing with my depression through individual work, therefore deciding on self-reliance, stoicism, and a loose code of honor to prove myself as my own person, and let other people have their views on things and keep mind, as it is less stressful and leads to both having a better day. I've been inspired by men of the past through literature and movies, whom I idolize and strive to be like--dare I say, to be better than everyone else, for I am just an average person.
But, in his eye (Which he's kinda in the intermediate of depression in the moment), he thought me of having no expression whatsoever, saying he had a physical art through which to express himself through ceramics whilst keeping my emotions inside had no positive benefit for me. He does whatever he wants, sometimes relying on "other people do it" (In our case, it was pornography), and usually has to express his opinion on a matter, whether people get mad at him or not. He argued with hyperbolic statements (Everyone does it), refutations of my claims (No one can do it--response to how I strive to be an honorable man), and firmly sticking to his side of argument. To be fair, I'm also a living hypocrite, just like one of the characters whom I seek to write out, which didn't help my case in many issues.
In response, I replied to how I had writing my stories to let loose feelings (It's not physical) and band. The cord was struck with my mention of band--a whole spent 6 years going on 7 of my time--saying it was not creative at all, or expressive, as I was just performing someone's work, not putting my own soul into it. He said I was just 'walking around on a field,' doing what people tell me to do, and that it was not artsy.
Now this was a serious affront, as I had spent my last three summers "walking around on a field" (At 180+ bpm, no less; for 8+ minutes and 6 hours a day), and I'm off to do another. As much as I despise marching band, I enjoy it and have a good time, meeting fun people and forming a brotherhood with my fellows (In comparison to the clubs he's tried to join which he's too judgmental and arrogant with other people that he finds them all as assholes). I guess it could be jealousy, or driving force that aspires him to rage and strive to be better than others, I digress, I do not know.
(Sidenote: I do acknowledge that art has no pure definition in a literal application, being judgmental on the matter, but its stated as "The arts are a vast subdivision of culture, composed of many creative endeavors and disciplines")
To this, I could not come up with a witty reply (As for my beginning, I don't normally argue, so therefore I suck at comebacks), but I wanted to, only leaving off with a "see you on Monday, buddy," ignoring the assault, and continued on my way, passing it off as just another hateful comment on me that I've yet to receive in years, but it stuck to my mind with anger that has come to fruition.
Well, what I guess I meant to say was "F*** you, pal," and leave him off with that, but I'm a nice person and dislike arguments. For all I know, he could have completely forgotten the issue entirely and we'd be back to the way things were. *Shrug* For that, I'll make no further mention of it and bear my scars for what it is.
Stoicism and the like, just be an honorable man, even if the statistics of 1 in 10,000 stand against me--For great justice and whatever god(s) of the present serve my cause (The Emperor, the Seven, the Light, the Christian God, Norse, Greek, or whatever false deity who give their soldiers a code of honor and wisdom to follow)
R; My best bud dissed band, for saying it isn't an art because the individual has no expression on the matter, only playing what they've been given, and that anyone can do it, in comparison to ceramics where he is in control. This is rather ignorant as Art holds no particular definition, determined by personal preference.Furthermore, he insulted my code of honor, dismissing it with appeals to common practice and statistics that weren't in my favor. This is also an annoyance as it is an insult to those who served in the past, just because it isn't popular or on the same level as the present.
It really grinded my gears. Let a man be whom he seeks to be.
But, nonetheless, my fellow Escapists, keep your head clear of doubt and stay objective in your cause, lest you fall into brutish emotion as your only strength.
"As a mother/father..."
Are you fucking kidding me? I'm not arguing the fact that parenthood has a profound effect on one's outlook, but it sure as hell doesn't make you a voice of authority on all things by default. Those 3 words hold more weight than they should, for some.
Are you fucking kidding me? I'm not arguing the fact that parenthood has a profound effect on one's outlook, but it sure as hell doesn't make you a voice of authority on all things by default. Those 3 words hold more weight than they should, for some.
Eh, I've spent just a little time at just about every board on 4chan. Same with 7chan, Desuchan, Ponychan, and several others. Goddess knows why I go to sites I have such low opinions of all the time. Heck, I don't know why I Escapist sometimes. I try to keep it rare enough though, just a few minutes around 4chan puts me in a really foul mood.bannanaky said:
Well... except the porn boards. I tend to stay far away from those. Except /y/. I spent a little time in /mlp/, but I was far more active in the early /co/ general threads. And /cm/ is kinda my "home" there. If there is such a thing for such an awful, racist, misogynist, sadistic hellhole on the internet.
I'm just kinda... everywhere on the internet. Somehow.
I have a hypothesis: the best response to that is to act overly cheery and say either "Yes, yes I am." or "No, you're gay!"redisforever said:
On a related note, I hate when people just have a post riddled with grammatical errors. It's like they don't even care! Also, why would the medium of the internet change the validity (or lack thereof) of certain debate tactics?SweetLiquidSnake said:
A year? Like, consistently, after the argument when he called you weak? That... takes commitment.Binnsyboy said:
No, it was before the argument. I'd noticed he was this rare blend of aggressive confrontation, and complete spinelessness. He would argue over every little thing with like two people in our year, of whom I was one. With everyone else, he was very quiet and didn't really say anything to their faces.The Thinker said:
So I slapped him every day for a year. he did nothing about it, beyond threats that were never acted upon. Proved me right. And in that argument, he still pulled the "you're a wuss" card. Which I found hilarious.
Thanks for giving me an argument against these people. I'll be sure to use it the next time the very anti-atheist people are giving me trouble.Eamar said: