Superman and the problems the character faces

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The Salty Vulcan

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NotSoNimble said:
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The only thing Superman has to fear, is a green rock.

And Batman.

Only cause Batman has a green rock.
And Red Sun Radiation.

And Magic.

And other Kryptonians.
None of what you said counts, cause Batman with a green rock will have defeated him already.

LOL! Yeah, I see what you mean, but since Superman is such a weak character, he shouldn't ever even beat Lex. Even if Lex didn't have that green rock, magic, red sun radiation, or a Kryptonian in his back pocket.

Clark is a simpleton.
Well that really depends on who is writing him. Like his powers, Clark's intelligence have never really been consistent granted he's never been a Bizarro. There has been times where Clark has been just as smart as Lex though like in Superman: Red Son. In that comic, after Lex fnally beats Superman he steals his notes and theories in order to create a new world government.

Also, as hard as it is to believe, Lex has had his moments of stupidity. Like the time he hired a detective to find out Superman's real indentity, only to fire him once he hears Clark Kent IS Superman. He couldn't believe a guy as powerful as Superman could possibly be as humble as Clark Kent. This is a guy who was able to convince the world that any bad he's ever done, was done so by an evil cone, shapeshifting alien or mirror dimension self. A guy THAT genre savvy should've known better.
Nice post. You have made me less ignorant on Superman lore. Thanks!
Now you Know!

 

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There's also red-sunlight (and the simulated variety), that makes him normal if you hit him with it. As for Kryptonite, I'm of the (crazy) opinion that he's actually immune but just faking so no one comes up with a better weapon against him.
And the whole Lex Luthor getting cancer thing? Hilarious.
 

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ThrobbingEgo said:
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There's also red-sunlight (and the simulated variety), that makes him normal if you hit him with it. As for Kryptonite, I'm of the (crazy) opinion that he's actually immune but just faking so no one comes up with a better weapon against him.
And the whole Lex Luthor getting cancer thing? Hilarious.
Again, you think a guy that smart would've oh I dunno thought of that too? You know what would have made him REALLY terrifying? If he tested it on other people to see if it could cause cancer.
 

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The problem with Superman is the fact that after The Death of Superman there's nowhere left for the series to go. He conquered death. What else can he do? Solve heat death in the universe?
 

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ThrobbingEgo said:
WolfThomas said:
There's also red-sunlight (and the simulated variety), that makes him normal if you hit him with it. As for Kryptonite, I'm of the (crazy) opinion that he's actually immune but just faking so no one comes up with a better weapon against him.
And the whole Lex Luthor getting cancer thing? Hilarious.
Well, just because it's harmful to humans doesn't means it has to hurt him. What a great trick, make your enemies gather large amount of carcingenic material.

Yeah I don't really believe he's faking, I just think Superman is better without kryptonite. Focusing more on having strong villains/powerful weapons able to hurt him makes things more exciting.
 

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WolfThomas said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
WolfThomas said:
There's also red-sunlight (and the simulated variety), that makes him normal if you hit him with it. As for Kryptonite, I'm of the (crazy) opinion that he's actually immune but just faking so no one comes up with a better weapon against him.
And the whole Lex Luthor getting cancer thing? Hilarious.
Well, just because it's harmful to humans doesn't means it has to hurt him. What a great trick, make your enemies gather large amount of carcingenic material.
Yeah. I meant it as, "Superman is a dick." I didn't mean to seem contradictory.
 

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And Superman hasn't always saved everyone. Remember the first film from 1978, where Lois died (then was resurected through time travel)? It showed that he isn't completely perfect and not all powerful.
Except for the fact that, you know, dude turned back time to save her showing he is completely perfect and all powerful.
When a dude can turn back time and save everyone thats kinda the ultimate over power game breaker.
Ok. This was just stupid. However there have been times where he's had to not save someone. Lets face it when you can hear and see EVERYTHING thats going on in the world, there are going to be people who will have to come later. One example is a little old lady who was saved by Superman. She started to see him as an angel and would start calling him for the most simplist of tasks. That is until she REALLY needs and he could'nt save her.
 

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An elderly superman was killed by a time traveler named Gog, but in that reality his death led to an army of supermen, including a reformed Doomsday, to be formed, discover time travel and travel back to the point before superman died and kill Gog. So Gog went back further in time and stopped himself from going forward with his plan.

Talk about a confusing timeline.

The issue's Action Comics, issue 825
 

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Adremmalech said:
An elderly superman was killed by a time traveler named Gog, but in that reality his death led to an army of supermen, including a reformed Doomsday, to be formed, discover time travel and travel back to the point before superman died and kill Gog. So Gog went back further in time and stopped himself from going forward with his plan.

Talk about a confusing timeline.

The issue's Action Comics, issue 825
GOG. DOESN'T. EXIST!
 

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ThrobbingEgo said:
WolfThomas said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
WolfThomas said:
There's also red-sunlight (and the simulated variety), that makes him normal if you hit him with it. As for Kryptonite, I'm of the (crazy) opinion that he's actually immune but just faking so no one comes up with a better weapon against him.
And the whole Lex Luthor getting cancer thing? Hilarious.
Well, just because it's harmful to humans doesn't means it has to hurt him. What a great trick, make your enemies gather large amount of carcingenic material.
Yeah. I meant it as, "Superman is a dick." I didn't mean to seem contradictory.
Yeah I thought too when I read that, just yeah thought I'd cover my base. But yeah it's pretty funny if he knew that.
 

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Quantum Roberts said:
Adremmalech said:
An elderly superman was killed by a time traveler named Gog, but in that reality his death led to an army of supermen, including a reformed Doomsday, to be formed, discover time travel and travel back to the point before superman died and kill Gog. So Gog went back further in time and stopped himself from going forward with his plan.

Talk about a confusing timeline.

The issue's Action Comics, issue 825
GOG. DOESN'T. EXIST!
Jesus Christ, Chill!! I didn't say Gog existed.
The topic has spread out to ways superman has or has almost died. I think Gog is worth mentioning to that degree.
 

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Adremmalech said:
Quantum Roberts said:
Adremmalech said:
An elderly superman was killed by a time traveler named Gog, but in that reality his death led to an army of supermen, including a reformed Doomsday, to be formed, discover time travel and travel back to the point before superman died and kill Gog. So Gog went back further in time and stopped himself from going forward with his plan.

Talk about a confusing timeline.

The issue's Action Comics, issue 825
GOG. DOESN'T. EXIST!
Jesus Christ, Chill!! I didn't say Gog existed.
The topic has spread out to ways superman has or has almost died. I think Gog is worth mentioning to that degree.
All right. But I don't have to like it.
*puts Gog voodoo doll away*
 

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Quantum Roberts said:
Adremmalech said:
Quantum Roberts said:
Adremmalech said:
An elderly superman was killed by a time traveler named Gog, but in that reality his death led to an army of supermen, including a reformed Doomsday, to be formed, discover time travel and travel back to the point before superman died and kill Gog. So Gog went back further in time and stopped himself from going forward with his plan.

Talk about a confusing timeline.

The issue's Action Comics, issue 825
GOG. DOESN'T. EXIST!
Jesus Christ, Chill!! I didn't say Gog existed.
The topic has spread out to ways superman has or has almost died. I think Gog is worth mentioning to that degree.
All right. But I don't have to like it.
*puts Gog voodoo doll away*
and neither does superman, just saying.