Superman's Effect on Earth

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Supercereal

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Ok hypothetical question time !
If Superman was real as in he is alive on our planet with all his powers and his sense of justice and unwavering morale code. Would this be better or worse for our planet ? Would having someone with the power of Superman make the world fear him as its ultimate Destroyer because of his power or would the world be adoptive of its savior ?

I for one could see Him being seen as a hero to the people but all nations governments seeing him as a grand threat or as a weapon they need to harness.
 

Thaluikhain

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Eh, Superman goes evil all the time anyway.

And...people complain about the US dicking around in other people's affairs as it is, that's sorta Superman's job.
 

JimB

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nikki191 said:
I'm surprised that angle [of a cult of Superman] has never be explored.
It has. They stood vigil outside his tomb and started riots over ideology in the Death of Superman/Reign of the Supermen story arc.
 

Vault101

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Ive been reading Irredeemable..its about The plutonian (superman pretty much) goes nuts and just says "fuck it" and destroys everything....it goes through the reasons [i/]why[/i] and what its like ot be superman

the more I learn about superman the less it surprises me the Idea of him going nuclear on the world
 

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Keep in mind that it was never Earth Prime's Superman that went rogue. In fact, the very idea gave him nightmares. Teh moar u no.

As for the topic at hand, I think dictators like whatever midget is running North Korea these days, and whatever midget with a member's only jacket is running Iran, would be a lot more quiet. Seriously. The guy can stop freaking nukes. We would hear "keep him over there, please oh please" more than "Your decadent western ways shall be the end of you!"
 

Sacman

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Time travel obviously...


Because that's totally how it works...<.<
 

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Well I'm sure plenty of countries would be afraid to go to war, with america at least.

Overall If he is the Moral beacon of hope that he is then yea, he would be a good thing.

Give a regular guy like me those powers and I'd do a fuck tonne of murdering though!
 

Supercereal

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JimB said:
nikki191 said:
I'm surprised that angle [of a cult of Superman] has never be explored.
It has. They stood vigil outside his tomb and started riots over ideology in the Death of Superman/Reign of the Supermen story arc.
i think most religions would cry superman is a false god or the work of satan but i could see the Church of Superman springing up.

Soxafloppin said:
Well I'm sure plenty of countries would be afraid to go to war, with america at least.

Overall If he is the Moral beacon of hope that he is then yea, he would be a good thing.

Give a regular guy like me those powers and I'd do a fuck tonne of murdering though!
As for being afraid to go to war i never really see Superman as Mr America home of the brave and land of the free. I think he is more a entire world kind of guy, I can't really see him becoming a Dr Manhattan type of character being used as a weapon for a country.
 

Aleos Vance

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I feel tempted to point out that as an alien Superman would be completely impartial. Surprised that nobody's considered what would happen if he decided that America and co. were in the wrong...
 

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The SMBC comic is completely right. We don't need Superman fighting crimes. Police are geared to the teeth, they don't get persistently overpowered by criminals. In fact actual fighting crime is both the least interesting least difficult part of it. The trick is finding out whose committing crimes, finding out where crimes are being committed and changing society so less crimes are committed overall. Superman is actually not much better equipped to deal with any of this stuff than any other clever guy. About his only useful crime-fighting ability is that his superspeed would allow him to have really quick 999 responses. But we've already got response times of 10-15 minutes and the overall affect Superman could have would be really low.

So really the best effect Superman could have would be environmental/energy related, you'd stick him in a giant treadmill or whatever and get him to generate electricity. Except I'm not sure how effective he would be at that, he runs fast but does he run fast enough to out perform nuclear fission? His heat vision at the very least is nowhere near up to snuff. If superman is immortal it would be worth doing it just to be thermodynamics which would be interesting.

But all this stuff even still probably isn't too effective. We already have plenty of food in the world to satisfy everyone for example, it's just a distribution problem through human greed. Assuming Superman is lawful good and doesn't descend to stealing food from us and giving it to starving people (and wow he would need even more entertainment than us to distract himself from that problem if he doesn't. I don't know if his sense of justice would survive). If someone backed him with enough capital he could single handedly run a massive farm and give/sell cheaply the produce to countries suffering famine. But again, I'm not sure if his savings in labour are anything like the burdens of trying to raise enough money to buy enough land to implement that. I suspect the venture capitalist is far more vital there than Superman.


So if Superman is incapable of having sufficient effect on the world to noticably save lives to anything like the extent say, Bill Gates does, what about military application?

I would say that Superman could well be a detrimental effect even to war. He could single handedly win any battle, but even with his super speed, he's probably not fast enough to singlehandedly stop a large multi-pronged co-ordinated attack and hes almost certainly not fast enough to stop a nuclear bombardment from a major player. His presence would mean that in any war he was involved in, the opposition would have no chance to win a convential battle so would immediately have to turn to mass bombing of civilain populations or nuclear warfare.

His benefits would be in very small countries with only a handful of nuclear weapons. We could perform a strike on the country and rely on Superman to catch the nukes. This does rely on us having exact intel on where the nukes will be launched and providing him with it, but that should be possible.


So in conclusion, the superhero genre exists as a way of making it feel like the worlds problems are easy to solve by reducing the problem to a simplistic 'punch bad guys'. This doesn't work in real life and it would require a lot of intelligence to work out a way where Superman could really benefit people, it most certainly wouldn't be fighting crime, but there could be some tactical war advantages or environmental benefits, depending on the capacity of his abilities
 

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Aylaine said:
I would think on his own, he could do great things. However, if he attracts villains or other beings from Space like in the movies/comics/TV Shows, then things will get a bit dicey. :3
Because lets be fair, american politics are bad as it is, all we need is lex luthor as president.

Has anyone read "The Dark Knight returns"? I'd say basically that. He'd roll of for the government and be the nuclear detterent for the entire western world.

And then batman would kick his head in.
 

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In real life, Superman would constantly be hearing people have sex and beating off and everything.
If anything, he'd be driven insane by the sheer noise of it all and never leave his fortress of solitude except to exact a horrific tidal wave of rage and irritation on the entire world.

It would almost like being simultaneously connected to your own facebook which everyone is friended you and hear every negative comment about yourself on a secondly basis.

In affect, Superman would be bullied into eating Kryptionite and killing himself regardless of how beneficial his actions may be to Earth.

And even assuming he had the will power and non-human psychology to be immune to such an affect, he'd also great an inhuman bar for humanity no one would be able to obtain and make everyone else feel bad about themselves.

And preventing all crimes, particularly the ones done out of desperation, would get so many more people to kill themselves instead.
Superman would destroy the world by existing and trying to save it.
 

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Supercereal said:
JimB said:
nikki191 said:
I'm surprised that angle [of a cult of Superman] has never been explored.
It has. They stood vigil outside his tomb and started riots over ideology in the Death of Superman/Reign of the Supermen story arc.
I think most religions would cry Superman is a false god or the work of Satan, but I could see the Church of Superman springing up.
Superman also decried himself as not a god or a prophet or whatever. The nutterbutters were not impressed.
 
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Redingold said:
I love SMBC, but I never bought that comic. I figure it would be more like this one:
After all, Superman may be a good guy, but he's not perfect. After a while he'd get tired of cranking, and we couldn't stop him for doing what he wanted.

Aleos Vance said:
I feel tempted to point out that as an alien Superman would be completely impartial. Surprised that nobody's considered what would happen if he decided that America and co. were in the wrong...
Not quite. I direct you to the Red Son comics, where Superman lands in Cold War-era Ukraine and grows up "as the Champion of the common worker who fights a never-ending battle for Stalin, socialism, and the international expansion of the Warsaw Pact." He's only a baby when he lands, so he gets shaped by whoever finds him, with all the moral questions and ambiguity that entails.
 

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Sacman said:
Time travel obviously...

-youtube snip-

Because that's totally how it works...<.<
Last week I saw something that blew my mind on xkcd's What If section

Someone recently blew my mind by telling me I?d been misinterpreting that scene all my life. I like their take on it way better:

Superman wasn't exerting a force on the Earth. He was just flying fast enough to go back in time. (Faster than light, I guess? Comic book physics.) The Earth changed direction because we were watching time run backward as he traveled. It didn't actually have anything to do with the direction he was flying.

Now that I see it, it makes a lot more sense. I mean, as much sense as a red-cape-and-outside-underwear time traveler can make.
Mindblowception. Also, I agree with the written there.
 

Mycroft Holmes

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http://www.cracked.com/article_20069_5-classic-superman-comics-that-prove-he-used-to-be-dick.html

Worse. Much Worse. Superman is a dick.