Trust me, if stayed with it, the story will make your brain hurt and the gameplay will make you want to straggle kittens.canadamus_prime said:
Surprisingly Useless Characters
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Collette in Tales of Symphonia is pretty damn worthless as far as combat goes. Hated when I had to have her in the party. Its like going in with a huge handicap because she can't do a damn thing.
Hell, with her Celestial weapon, you could Bludgeon to death everything except Penance and some of the Dark aeons.Miles Tormani said:
Bidoof is goodAlways_Remain said:I shall one up you!irishdelinquent said:Really?!
REALLY?!
I'm the one who gets to play this card first? Okay, here we go.
Yeah, Gyarados is bad-ass, but Magikarp is a giant pile of suck. It can't even hurt anything until level 15, and even then it still sucks something fierce.
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Zubat is pretty good tooNoblePhilistineFox said:what about Zubat?Aura Guardian said:Feebas is worseirishdelinquent said:Really?!
REALLY?!
I'm the one who gets to play this card first? Okay, here we go.
Yeah, Gyarados is bad-ass, but Magikarp is a giant pile of suck. It can't even hurt anything until level 15, and even then it still sucks something fierce.
I thought he was cool but hes not good, like, at all.
see this actually depends on your edition.The Eggplant said:
In 2nd Ed. it was really quite useful in early game to be multi-classed as you were essentially lvl 2 as soon as you roll.[footnote]See: Bauldur's Gate on PC[/footnote]
In 3.5th Ed. it was more balanced, once you reach lvl 2 (for your character) it was assumed that you would progress your class to lvl 2, however you could[footnote]See: It's possible in the same way punching yourself in the groin is[/footnote] gain 1 level in a different class making your character lvl 2 with 1 lvl in two different classes.
In 4th Ed. Multiclass is a joke.
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What are you on? Goofy was awesome in the first one. Especially when he did that spinning shield attack.
I'd say Geno in Super Mario RPG was kinda bad, he did pretty good dps with his stronger moves, but he is quite frail. This wouldn't really be a problem, but because his high dps attracted aggro he fell down quite a lot. Another fairly underpowered character in that game is Mario, I remember quite wanting to replace him with a different party member.
Then again I wouldn't exactly call either of those characters useless, Super Mario RPG is a pretty well balanced game.
Then again I wouldn't exactly call either of those characters useless, Super Mario RPG is a pretty well balanced game.
Sinclair - Bioshock 2
"Go here and do this!" I dislike characters who's only function is to tell you what to do.
"Go here and do this!" I dislike characters who's only function is to tell you what to do.
Actualy, as soon as you can get him "Null Ailment" he quickly becomes REALLY useful. He's got no weaknesses at that point, IIRC he still RESISTS Electricity, and he's got relatively high speed and Magic. And because of events in 2, He and Gale are probably some of the BEST characters to keep in your party. , cuzLordNue said:
you know, everyone kicks the bucket. They're the last 2 (There's literally zero time between when Ceilo dies and when you get him back for him to miss ANY exp/mantra).
On my end, though, I found Wakka really useless in FFX, in Shadow Hearts Covenant I couldn't stand using Geppetto, and subsequently Hilda in From the New World.
And the returning cast in Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World, since they're all capped at 50, and I was in my sixties when I got them, especially infuriating because I was well into my 100's at the end of Symphonia.
Oh, and bloody Savyna in Baten Kaitos, she moves too fast to pick cards with any kind of strategy unless they're laid out in JUST the right order.
And Naoto in Persona 4, sure, access to Insta-Death of both elements AND Almighty is great, but NOT at the rate that MP gets consumed with those spells in the MegaTen series.
I'm SURE there are more, but since I try to mix up my parties when I replay games, I can't really say.
Sheena I'll give you. She wasn't that great either, though she did have her niche as you said in her summoning. Collette never does a damn thing when she's fighting. She's always a liability.LordNue said:
Presea is good, but she comes along way to late in the game, and by then, you've already got a team you are comfortable with. Same goes for Regal. The guy learns some really good moves, and if he'd use his hands he'd be a much better, if less interesting, character to have in the party.
Really, Lloyd, Genus, Zelos/Kratos, and Raine make up the perfect team. Lloyd as the straight up attacker, Genus casts his fantastic spells and stays out of trouble, which is good due to his lack of any really defenses, Zelos/Kratos cover the mid-ground with solid physical and magic attacks, and Raine is that all important healer that is absolutely necessary on a first run through.
Yes! That pissed me off. As soon as Lloyd joined up with me, I was so excited, because by the end of the original ToS, he was the most powerful being there was! Then they just make him so weak... I hated it.Brain_Cleanser said:
so glad people are like-minded with me on this point, FF7 was not that great of a game. materia was cool but one system doesn't make up for more or less alot of fail.LeonLethality said:
but more on topic, did anyone here play NIER? The only useful ally in that game was the kid when he could one-hit petrify enemies for you. other than that, they served no purpose but to get in your way and do some really retarded stuff. more often then not, they got me killed during the platforming parts
Have a look at the players handbook but it's like this.spartan773 said:
Group of people, one person is the DM (Dungeon Master) they run almost everything the computer/developers would do. They voice the NPC's they roll attacks and damage for the mobs, come up with the story, plot, traps, maps etc.
Everyone else is a PC (Player Character, obviously) they have a normal RPG Character Sheet but they write all of the stats etc on the sheet rather than have a computer do it.
You actually talk rather than have Dialog trees and the DM will tell you what you see, hear, smell, feel and such. They won't tell you what you think (They do say such things as "You feel a sence of foreboding" if they're shitty.) or do unless you're being mind controlled which most DM's won't do.
In anything that you have a chance of failing at, Running along a beam, swimming, jumping over a hedge, climbing a rope hand-over-hand, swinging a sword at an enemy, lying to the guards, trying to find the hidden switch, you roll a d20, a twenty sided die. You then add or subtract bonuses etc based on such things as, your skill at the task, your general atributes (No Charisma = Negatives on lying), and the circumstances (almost everything is harder if you're on a ship in a storm).
In combat you will also roll dice to see how much damage, this is the only time you will need to roll dice other than the d20. These dice can have, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 20, 100 sides (no one uses the d100 exept DM's).
The DM decides before hand how difficult all of these things are going to be, they plan alot of stuff. I would suggest that if you want to find out how to play D&D, go to a comicbook store and ask the guy/girl behind the counter about it. There should be fliars. I would not suggest watching "I hit it with my axe". I don't think this is an accurate representation of D&D (My opinion.)
Yeah. Njoy. PM if you have more Questions.
PS. Also, The DM's word is ALWAYS LAW!
In my case there are either characters who I dislike because of their character but have to put them in my party because they are useful in that respect (SEE: Shion in Xenosaga), OR characters who are utterly useless or redundant in battle but whom I personally like so I use them anyway. The most extreme example being my soft spot for FF10's Rikku, who at least becomes non-useless in serious fights after you level her excessively. I also use Auron a lot because he is awesome in both respects, and Rikku is still leveled to a point where she does as much physical damage as he does.
Though in the case of FF10's Tidus he was blissfully useless in battle as well. The only thing I ever really used him for was haste and slow spells, so once I gave those to other characters Tidus was never heard from again. Except for the cutscenes. Blah.
Though in the case of FF10's Tidus he was blissfully useless in battle as well. The only thing I ever really used him for was haste and slow spells, so once I gave those to other characters Tidus was never heard from again. Except for the cutscenes. Blah.