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Dr Snakeman

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Da Orky Man said:
If people take everything said to then to heart, the Internet is a dangerous place. Thick skin is a must when traversing these twisted skeins.
Indeed. I take it that y'all are familiar with the GIFT?



Normal people tend to become assholes when protected by anonymity. It's one of humanity's many flaws.
 

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"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me." This is more then relevant in this situation.
 

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I can't protect everyone from hearing things that hurt them. Because the simple truth is everyone has at one time or another said some thoughtless thing that could have hurt someone. What is important to realize is typically people aren't trying to hurt you. With anonymity people are generally just trying to say things to entertain an audience, and not everyone on the internet is the best entertainer in the world, so some of them suck at knowing their audience. What they think is funny or meaningless, another might find very hurtful. But people aren't evil, they are either mistaken or doing something they think is for the right reason, even if that reason is very selfish.

Everyone has to be willing to forgive others for this (except the moderators), because who knows when you'll find yourself selfish or thoughtless for a moment and make a similar mistake. Bullies are often the very people who get picked on and abused the worse, no different than those they target, but it's up to the person being abused to make the decision to be the better person, to forgive the bully out of pity and vow they never become a bully themselves. When a person feels weak or despairs, they need to realize they have the power to make the parts of the world they touch better.

People should think before they say things, but then people should also think before they react to what someone has said. Is what was said really worth feeling this bad over? Did the person saying it really want to hurt you? Do you really want to give someone trying the hurt you the satisfaction of succeeding?

I'm proud of anyone willing to open themselves up enough to perfect strangers to risk being hurt. That takes a lot of courage. Stay strong, and give others courage to do the same, I know you have it in you. But if it helps, know you'll never have to be that strong alone.
 

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Agayek said:
Ickorus said:
This is a pretty basic thread just asking everyone to sit back and think a moment before you hurl abuse at someone, i've known people in my life who really take to heart the stuff said online and i've seen the sort of things it does to these people im not talking about just being sad for a night but people who have been right on the verge of suicide (I have had to talk one person down before, not something I want to have to do ever again) because of the terrible things people say to them without a second thought whilst they are online.

What im getting at is you don't know who you're talking to online or their circumstance so take a moment to think before you hit the enter key when you're online, just remember that the faceless name you're shouting at is another living person and they have feelings too, it doesn't take a moment and in the end everyone and I mean everyone leaves happier from the situation, even if it's a crappy one.
It's more a matter of those people you know not being retarded than people not throwing abuse at them. If you're really insecure enough that someone else's criticisms can drive you to suicide, that may be a better alternative than continuing to live.
Quoted for the fucking truth. If you do not have thick skin on the internet then you have no right to be here.

The OP thinks that we all need to stop and think about the fact that none of use know the circumstances of the other people we are "abusing" but I say that the people who are taking everything said about them seriously need to stop and think about the fact that we indeed do not know them and are talking out of our collective asses. If they still have a mental breakdown after reviewing this simple fact then they are way too insecure and either need to get the hell over themselves, or just end it right there, because they will never succeed in life if they expect everyone to be nice to them.
 

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What OP wants, to me, is very utopia-esque: For everyone to create a response on the level so plain that no one can be offended by it. Anyone who's read a Utopian novel knows how that ends. ;P

Anyway, I agree with others about the thick-skinned necessity. If one enters into a lawless land, they can not expect to be protected by anyone but themselves. Fortunately, this is with something as simple as words, over a computer, via one's OWN choices. Versus something like not being able to move anywhere due to weapons and violence due to anarchy. The internet is it's own medium, it CAN be avoided in parts or as a whole if one is not able to handle the off-chance of someone else blowing up at them.

Furthermore, as OP said, they don't know their situation. The opposite is also true: The person could be merely trolling, power-tripping, letting off steam, taken something the wrong way, doesn't know how to handle situations well, going through a rough point in life, etc. No one knows anothers' situations, unless told. Hence the anonymity of the internet that makes it both awesome, and gruesome.

Plus, hasn't anyone ever heard of the phrase, "Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me." I mean, seriously! :p
 

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The solution for this comes down to the person who doesn't have thick skin more than the people that throw out the abusive comments.
The internet is a flame war just waiting to happen, you like Xbox but CaptianDerpF4c32011 has posted his rather strong feelings on his Sony fanboyism, he's also taken great offence to you saying Xbox is a superior console.

This is a situation that happens all the time on the internet, you know what you do? You just avoid the subject or make a post and don't read the possible responses if you care that much to share your opinion.

Are you going to share your feelings on abortion and don't want to be called a monster when you say you're for it?
Then don't post it or again, just don't read responses if you think you're going to get hate for it.

That's how I view the internet anyhow.
 

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What? You want me to think before I insult someone that dares have a differing opinion or interest than me by calling them a basement dwelling, neck-bearded man-child? How rude!
 

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usmarine4160 said:
I just tried to flick that bug off the screen
Same :(

On Topic: I do often wish the internet could be nicer and I have been in a similar situation with a close friend (not online gaming but just the internet in general) so I do see where you're coming from. Usually when I communicate online I try to be competitive (gaming) or just nice (forums) and when someone is being particularly annoying I just mute them :)

But you aren't alone and you are a good person for being there for them (even if they didn't let you know)
 

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J.J said:
What OP wants, to me, is very utopia-esque: For everyone to create a response on the level so plain that no one can be offended by it. Anyone who's read a Utopian novel knows how that ends. ;P [/i] :p
Even in my ideal world I wouldn't want everything that perfect (I like opinions and heated discussions), but I think the OP is looking for less shit stirring, which I realize is probably impossible but that shouldn't stop him bringing it up. Keep in mind this isn't himself he's worried about, merely going off what happened to someone he knew.
 

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I had people try to kick me from 3 or 4 games on MAG last night, I'm guessing 'cus I'm such a fucking n00b.

But I stuck it out and proved my talent for total ownage*.



Seemed to do the trick.


*as in fluke run of kills.
 

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I'm not as considerate as all of you. I don't know why, but I have something of a lag when I'm considering something, where I sort of think every word individually as I type it. That makes me slow, that means that I must say whatever comes to mind, and hope it isn't too foolish or misguided.

This happens in spoken conversations too. I've been known to hurt people's feelings for being "too blunt". But in the end, if I want to talk to anyone, what else am I supposed to do?
 

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WoodenPlanck said:
I figured that's what you were getting at, and I understand that saying the story that way wouldn't exactly lend credit to your cause.

I play HoN and LoL, and I know how bothersome negative feedback gets when the tide of war is going poorly. It's too bad when a virtual refuge turns into another 'shouting' match.
I play LoL too (not as much now, but I'm probably going to start up again soon) and the crap people are so willing to spew onto the screen drove me away from solo queue. Offhand comments or criticisms are usually fine, but some people just go over the top with insulting everyone and it just destroys the team dynamic.

I had to deal with a LOT of bullying at a young age, and since then I've developed a fairly thick skin. People saying crap doesn't bother me, but when it messes up the rest of the team, (or the person is just flat out uncooperative because they think they're SOOOOOOO much better than the rest of us and working together is beneath him/her) it's really annoying.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Unlike in a spoken conversation, people have plenty of time to think about what they're writing. They can fact check, proof read and basically make sure that what they're saying isn't stupid.

After all of that and they still end up saying something completely ignorant, they deserve the wrath of billion exploding suns.
I Second That Notion. Not thinking about what you are typing on a forum is tantamount to walking up to a total stranger and mouthing off to them.

My "fix" for those heated Forum conversations is to write out what I want to say in a note pad, go get a cup of coffee and a biscuit and come back and read what I wrote. If I still feel good about it I post it. Usually I end up heavily editing it and then posting it. It's worth the extra time, not just to save me from looking like a moron, but to make sure that what I want to say isn't lost in the emotion of the moment.

I recommend this to anyone responding to a post that they feel emotional about.
 

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J.J said:
Plus, hasn't anyone ever heard of the phrase, "Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me." I mean, seriously! :p
I though it was "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains exite me?

OT: people are allways gunna be douchebags on the internet because they think they can be as obnoxious as they want and noone cn do anything about it, when you really can.
It may be petty but if someone says something offensive and really gets on my nerves, i report them, block them(if XBL) and i move on.
And if comments people say on the internet are that bad that you cant handle it, then i would think that you should cancel your internet sunscription now, because as sad as it is, you will never get 100% nice people, ever.
 

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The_Deleted said:
I had people try to kick me from 3 or 4 games on MAG last night, I'm guessing 'cus I'm such a fucking n00b.

But I stuck it out and proved my talent for total ownage*.



Seemed to do the trick.


*as in fluke run of kills.
I was on LoL yesterday and did just that and my team just started callin me a KSer instead. :p