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Booze Zombie

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Samnite said:
Not quite bullshit - getting hit on the forehead is far from an instant K-O; I've been kneed in the forehead while being thrown to the floor (Jiu Jitsu) and was back on my feet immediately afterwards.

The only way you can get knocked out by being punched in the head in one is taking a roundhouse shot to the jaw or the temple. When they take a stance, a lot of boxers bring up their lead shoulder to defend the jaw, and use their hands to fend off other strikes. You -can- take multiple strikes to the face, and certainly to the forehead, but that doesn't mean it don't hurt ;)

And on the other martial artists' point about a double-punch to the chest... While Zinedine Zidane can cause a fair amount of damage to the chest with a headbutt, in you're inside their guard you're much better off going for something which isn't protected by a lattice of bones, such as the throat or solar plexus.
Yeah, a lot of literature I've been looking at focuses on not taking knocks to the jaw bone or side of the head and I can get why. I just wouldn't have though the optimal spot for a knock would've been my forehead, really.

I didn't think it'd be painless either, but I was hoping with it being a strong-point it'd hurt less than taking a hit to, say, an eye.

Just gotta keep it all in perspective... even when your face is being hit.
 

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Threads like this always brings out a handful of tuff guys who bring up their 2-3 highschool or kindergarden fights as experience material.

To give you a simple answer, yes, the forehead.
Not the top of the head, it's surprisingly soft.
A punch to the forehead is rather unlikely to knock you out, and also there is a good chance they might break their hand or damage it on your forehead.
Also, as someone else said, you may cut easily on the forehead, but better than getting knocked out and raped, right? :)

I'm pretty sure that martial artist guy you watched was complete bs though, who really teaches to eat bare knuckle punches? If you can react to a punch in time to think "Oh, I can't block, I better headbutt his punch" I'm pretty sure you could just as well try to dodge or block it with your forearms or something.


^ Samnite, while it's the most common it's certainly not the only way.
 

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Booze Zombie said:
Yeah, a lot of literature I've been looking at focuses on not taking knocks to the jaw bone or side of the head and I can get why. I just wouldn't have though the optimal spot for a knock would've been my forehead, really.

I didn't think it'd be painless either, but I was hoping with it being a strong-point it'd hurt less than taking a hit to, say, an eye.

Just gotta keep it all in perspective... even when your face is being hit.
And you'd be right in that belief. Although if you want to know about fighting, I'd say train in a martial art over read a book or watch youtube videos ;)

Udyrfrykte - True enough, but it's certainly the easiest way to do so with one strike.
 

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Samnite said:
Although if you want to know about fighting, I'd say train in a martial art over read a book or watch youtube videos ;)
Totally agree on that. I think everyone should have experienced a point in their lives to "fight" in safe conditions, and if it interests you then there is no discussion really. Sign up for a class of some sort.
 

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What idiot 'Martial artist' advised you to headbutt a punch to the noggin?

Here's a handy hint for those who haven't been in a fight or studied biology:

YOUR SKULL CONTAINS YOUR 'THINK-THINK' (BRAIN) AND USING IT AS A FIST BRAKE WILL CAUSE YOU TO LOSE 'THINK-THINK' POWER.

Then again, if you think accelerating your head towards an accelerating object is going to 'mediate' the damage caused, you've probably already taken too many blows to the 'think-think'.
 

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FarleShadow said:
What idiot 'Martial artist' advised you to headbutt a punch to the noggin?

Here's a handy hint for those who haven't been in a fight or studied biology:

YOUR SKULL CONTAINS YOUR 'THINK-THINK' (BRAIN) AND USING IT AS A FIST BRAKE WILL CAUSE YOU TO LOSE 'THINK-THINK' POWER.

Then again, if you think accelerating your head towards an accelerating object is going to 'mediate' the damage caused, you've probably already taken too many blows to the 'think-think'.
It is ever so slighty counter-inuitive. But the idea is that if you're going to take a hit to the head, better if bounce off the hard point than break your jaw or something.
 

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RockSiccors said:
In theory it works because the top part of your forehead is very strong, but, (and this is a pretty big but) it's only practical against a punch to the face and it's not as easy as it seems. You have to time it right and be able to react, or else you might just get a jab in the eye or the nose. On the bright side, you can actually harm the hitter's wrist. Take this from one who's done this on more than one occation.
yeah Talk to the Fighter Urijah Faber bout this hes broken both of his hands in a fight against Mike Brown
 

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The idea is simple. It's quite easy to break someone's hand on your skull.

So, you may be stumbling around a bit, seeing double, but the other bastard's down to one swinger.

This whole problem can be avoid though: Learn jujitsu. Every fight ends on the ground, so you might as well grab the bastard, take him down, and then break his arms and choke the living shit out of him.
 

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Pararaptor said:
Bullets failing to penetrate the forehead is not unheard-of.
Yeah, my mum claims to have known a guy who, while working as a bodyguard or security guard, was fired at from a ways away, it hit him at his hairline, went under the skin and followed the skull the whole way round, breaking the skin at the top of the neck.

I don't know how true that is, but from various factors I use to gauge the truth of her stories, it's looking about 60/30/10 in her favour.

OT: Generally, avoid getting punched in the first place, but from the common theme in this thread, apparently the hairline/forehead is the way to go.
 

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Booze Zombie said:
It is ever so slighty counter-inuitive. But the idea is that if you're going to take a hit to the head, better if bounce off the hard point than break your jaw or something.
If, as op says, you can't help but take it, I suggest moving your braincage in a manner that /decreases/ the exchanged energy of the blow, not increasing it.

That said, i'd rather lose some teeth that damage my think-think, but then again I'm more likely to take one punch to the head, see red and end up picking bits of someone else from under my nails. (Whoo, another angry internet-er statement!)
 

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Well, your skull is pretty hardcore but I think it more depends who is doing the punching. When you see somebody punch somebody in the head it's usually aimed at the temple or the jaw, which are the weak points.
 

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FarleShadow said:
If, as op says, you can't help but take it, I suggest moving your braincage in a manner that /decreases/ the exchanged energy of the blow, not increasing it.

That said, i'd rather lose some teeth that damage my think-think, but then again I'm more likely to take one punch to the head, see red and end up picking bits of someone else from under my nails. (Whoo, another angry internet-er statement!)
That's the whole point, though.
Your forehead is supposed to hit the other guy's hand before he can fully extend his arm, lessening the amount of force he can exert and also possibly breaking his hand from the impact.
 

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Booze Zombie said:
FarleShadow said:
If, as op says, you can't help but take it, I suggest moving your braincage in a manner that /decreases/ the exchanged energy of the blow, not increasing it.

That said, i'd rather lose some teeth that damage my think-think, but then again I'm more likely to take one punch to the head, see red and end up picking bits of someone else from under my nails. (Whoo, another angry internet-er statement!)
That's the whole point, though.
Your forehead is supposed to hit the other guy's hand before he can fully extend his arm, lessening the amount of force he can exert and also possibly breaking his hand from the impact.
Yeah, but unless you're literally throwing yourself at his fist, the range of movement of your head is small and the range of his fist is multiples of your head, so moving your head towards the brainwrecker is going to amp up the damage while moving away will minimize it.

And hoping to break the other guy's fist with your head is fucking stupid, as I said previously, its your braincase, not an all-purpose limb stopper.
 

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FarleShadow said:
Yeah, but unless you're literally throwing yourself at his fist, the range of movement of your head is small and the range of his fist is multiples of your head, so moving your head towards the brainwrecker is going to amp up the damage while moving away will minimize it.

And hoping to break the other guy's fist with your head is fucking stupid, as I said previously, its your braincase, not an all-purpose limb stopper.
It's your last resort for a reason and I won't pretend that I'd do it without hesitating in a real fight; I'd look for every other option before throwing my head at someone's bony knuckle.
 

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A punch to the chin is a KO. If you've ever watched boxing, those lucky haymakers that knock a guy clean out are usually right on the chin.
 

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I was gonna say take it in the ass as a joke but decided to write something more serious.

The best place to take a punch is not to actually be punched at all. Dodge in other words. Although it is true that the skull is extremely strong and would probably absorb alot of the force from the punch but in my opinion that sounds like a really stupid idea. Heads are for headbutting not deflecting punchs. I mean ask Captain Shepard. He knows how to dish it with his head (should be an attack in ME3...). Personally I would try to take the punch in a shoulder seeing as it can also absorb alot of force from punchs although it may pain a little when you go to return blows. Taking it in the chest, face, throat, forearms, privates, back or hands are a big no no unless your hands are like a slab of meat and thick enough. You can try taking it in the stomach but you need to know how to tense if your going to try that otherwise it would be stupid to try. I can tell you its painful. So to recap Don't take it in the ass, chest, face, throat, forearms, privates, back or hands, Try and take it in the shoulder or slab of meat hands or if your insane the very top of your forehead.

PLEASE NOTE I AM NOT INFORMING ANYONE TO GO OUTSIDE AND GET THE S*** BEATEN OUTTA THEM SO THAT THEY CAN TRY DEFENDING THEMSELVES. IF YOU DO GO DO THIS IT IS AT YOUR OWN RISK AND I'LL CALL YOU AN IDIOT IF YOU COME BACK AND WHINE AT ME SAYING ITS ALL MY FAULT. IN OTHER WORDS DON'T GO LOOKING FOR FIGHTS.

Knusper said:
The best place to take a punch is the space you just were before you started running away. Pacifism ftw.
I also agree with this guy.
 

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Booze Zombie said:
Your skull would be a good idea as it is made to survive a knock or two and there is a high chance the attacker would break his knuckles from the impact. until boxing gloves came in there were hardly any punches to the head due to the risk of injury to your hand.
 

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Getting punched in the head is going to suck regardless of where it hits. The forehead/hairline is the place that can absorb impact the best. The best bet is not to be hit at all, but if the head is going to be hit anyway, the forehead is the least likely to do damage.
 

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I'm sure you've heard the expression "Roll with the punches."
It comes from boxing. You never want to take a hit full on, instead you want to try and absorb some of the impact by rolling with it... ie. Punch coming from the left side, roll right.


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inFAMOUSCowZ said:
Forehead man, take a punch in the head forehead, I saw it on an episode of manswers.
If that is the name of a real show, people will die by my hands.
Unfortunately it is in fact a real show. Airs on Spike
Its a wonderful show that answers such age-old questions as: How many pounds of boobage are required to crush a beer can, and, how much alcohol must you insert into your rectum to get inebriated?