Technology, the end of mankind - my theory

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Trippy Turtle

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I've always thought it would be good for the planet if we just tore down everything we ever made and start fresh in a cave again. This includes getting rid of all our ideas and stuff so take a new generation and don't teach them anything the cave men wouldn't know. This way by the time we get our stuff back together the planet will have healed and our population will be way down.
 

Griff

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Wait I have this somewhere

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7ezeYJUz-84
 

Thaluikhain

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Soods said:
The whole planet is dying, because of technology. All life on this planet could die at any moment, if a handful of humans push wrong buttons and launch some nukes.
Not true. Firstly, a full scale nuclear war wouldn't even eradicate our species. There are organisms that live 2km down in solid bedrock...good luck wiping all them out.

Secondly, we aren't killing the planet. Changing it, yes, in a way that's killing off all sorts of things, yes, but that's not the same thing.

Species which are suited to this new environment prosper, ones that are not die out...such has it always been, and so shall it ever be.
 

Bloodstain

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So what is the point of the human racfe if we should live like monkeys?
The great thing about us is that we have the emntal capabilities to reflect upon our own instincts and devlop ourselves and the world further. Abandoning that would be a waste of potential.

Rather a productive, if ultimately self-destroying life than a pointless one.

Besides, without technology we would die out quicklier than now. Look at yourself. A weak body, compared with other species. They will exterminate us quickly. They only way we managed to survive for that long was by using technology (like inventing spears or bows, and working with fire).
 

Vault101

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Mr.K. said:
I see someone enjoys a good dose of Apocalypse porn, hey whatever get's you off.

But out in the real world only one thing can doom mankind, ignorance.
what he said ^

also for some reason I dont think you can really "go backwards" and what would be the point of that?

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launchpadmcqwak

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McMullen said:
Soods said:
I get the impression that you're a junior high or high schooler who's learned a little bit about science, technology, and history, and are coming to all the wrong conclusions by building on what little you've learned with wild speculation. While I like your enthusiasm, you should learn to do research when you reach the end of your knowledge on a subject, or you will write posts like the one you just did. Here and now it's not so bad, but later in life you can make a real fool of yourself by doing this.

For starters, we were not monkeys 2,000 years ago. Rome was an empire 2,000 years ago. Before that it was a republic. Before that, there were the Greeks. Before that, there were dozens if not hundreds of other civilizations. The oldest written document is estimated to be 5,500 years old.

Also, we are not and have never been Monkeys. We are apes. Monkeys showed up after their branch and our branch of the evolutionary tree separated.

No organism in the history of life has ever been "in harmony" with its environment. They are only kept in balance with everything else by external forces, most of them derived from the presence of predators, the availability of food, and the prevalence of disease.

We aren't even the first organisms to cause environmental devastation and climate change. Blue-Green algae did that 3.3 billion years ago. They altered the composition of the atmosphere so drastically that they poisoned and killed off over 90% of all life on the planet. It was the greatest mass-extinction the world has ever experienced. The toxic gas, by the way, was oxygen. The atmosphere got polluted with a corrosive, dangerously reactive gas, and everything that survived evolved to either hide from it or use it as metabolic fuel.

You are right that as our production has gone up, our energy demand has gone up as well. However, it's really ignorant to characterize it as an addiction. It isn't even unusual or unnatural. It's merely a parallel to the same kind of mechanism that drives an organism's, or a community's calorie intake based on their size. Doesn't matter if the community is a bacterial colony, an ant hill, a city, or a civilization. The inability to sustain large populations is far from unprecedented. Yes, if it happens to us it will be a bigger crash, but it's not apocalyptic, and the mass famine will be followed by a period of stability or even growth.

The whole planet is most certainly not dying. As I said before, it's faced far bigger crises than us. The earth is too big, its climates too varied, and its life too adaptable, to be sterilized by anything short of complete crustal melting. Freeze it, bombard it, boil away its oceans, life will still persist on the earth in some form.

Now if you're worried about us, then sure, there's reason for concern. Even then though, just because we've adapted to be dependent on technology doesn't mean we're totally screwed if we run out of our main energy sources. A lot of people will starve, but there will be survivors, and they will get by with whatever's left.

Also, how is quitting technology cold turkey better than moving forward? Not even (some) non-human apes abstain completely from the use of tools. An energy crisis is bad but nowhere near as devastating as simply quitting technology.
OWNED.
OT. dude check out the singularity theory
 

Soods

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What I was trying to point out with my post is the situation we are stuck in: we are trying to fix problems created by technology with technology.
LobsterFeng said:
Saying "He would have died in fifty years anyways" wont let you walk free after killing someone.
 

ShindoL Shill

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So what you're saying is you'd rather have cholera than TV?
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Or, you know, we could just use technology to create some kind of infinitely renewable source of fuel.
what, you mean like get power from the WIND? or maybe the SUN? oh, why not the tides while we're at it?
/meta-sarcasm.
yeah, we do all those things already. and we're working on cold fusion. and we already have fission. technically, we can perform fusion, but just not on a large enough scale. we can fuse particles, but one at a time in very specific circumstances.
 

Zack Alklazaris

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Running out of resources will be a major issue before we ever run out of a source of fuel. (Considering we can still get power from water and sunlight)

I agree we are too dependent on technology and many of us would die if we found ourselves suddenly without it. But it would certainly not be an extinction.
 

Superior Mind

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You need a dose of George Carlin my friend.

Edit: Okay for some reason I managed to post Yahtzee's Psychonaut's review... what the fuck?


Edit: That's better.
 

Soods

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Monoochrom said:
Soods said:
Look OP, I won't question the results of your thinking because you lost me right up there (yes I read it all). If you start out with false information, your thoughts aren't worth anything, by no means am I trying to put you down with this by the way, your just working with faulty logic here and I consider it fairly likely that you might reach a different conclusion if you understood the things you brought up better. Go back, look some things up, rethink this, then I'll be glad to discuss this with you. :)
First post summarized: I don't think we should fix problems caused by technology with more technology.
 

LordFisheh

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The idea of being addicted to technology and that we should give it all up and tough it like we used to only holds water if we hold survival as the only goal for our species. Personally, I'd like to do a whole lot more than just survive, and for that technology is needed. And even if survival is so important, well, there's not going to be any way of surviving the inevitable planetary apocalypse without technologies like off world colonies, or at least bunkers.

Ultimately, it looks to me like the guy who wrote that is yet another person conned into thinking that mankind has a magical ordained goal - survival - and that everything else is therefore expendable in blind pursuit of a single goal.
 
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TrilbyWill said:
So what you're saying is you'd rather have cholera than TV?
Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
Or, you know, we could just use technology to create some kind of infinitely renewable source of fuel.
what, you mean like get power from the WIND? or maybe the SUN? oh, why not the tides while we're at it?
/meta-sarcasm.
You have a very needlessly aggressive way of agreeing with people.