Teen faces expulsion after brining stun-gun to school to fend off bullies

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ElPatron

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Treblaine said:
snippage 2: electric boogaloo
Let's end this for once and for all.

I am simply stating that aiming at center mass from 1m away with finger off the trigger allows you to have a standoff distance to work with if the attacker is on drugs and just decided to jump on an armed person. I am not saying that the finger must be on the trigger.

About Bin Ladden: his guards were armed, and he might have had weapons with him, so they could have just shot him for good measure. They didn't, they shot it because he was a target to be eliminated. Like Von Strauffenberg tried to eliminate Hitler. Hitler was not in the frontline. But he was a legit target, and so was Bin Laden: his armed organization made him lose any right the Geneva Convention gives to civilians.

The Green Berets do not resort to bomb schools, to my knowledge.

Finally... What we all have been waiting for....


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/Breaking-Autopsy-Reveals-Trayvon-Martin-Had-Drugs-in-System

 

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this is so freaking stupid the mom should not of given the kid a weapon the princapal should of done somthing

and failing that the mom should of gone over his head to the schoolboard thats what my mom did when i was bullyed ( but of course my mom had angry powers on par with flutterage)
 

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ElPatron said:
Treblaine said:
snippage 2: electric boogaloo
Let's end this for once and for all.

I am simply stating that aiming at center mass from 1m away with finger off the trigger allows you to have a standoff distance to work with if the attacker is on drugs and just decided to jump on an armed person. I am not saying that the finger must be on the trigger.

About Bin Ladden: his guards were armed, and he might have had weapons with him, so they could have just shot him for good measure. They didn't, they shot it because he was a target to be eliminated. Like Von Strauffenberg tried to eliminate Hitler. Hitler was not in the frontline. But he was a legit target, and so was Bin Laden: his armed organization made him lose any right the Geneva Convention gives to civilians.

The Green Berets do not resort to bomb schools, to my knowledge.

Finally... What we all have been waiting for....


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/Breaking-Autopsy-Reveals-Trayvon-Martin-Had-Drugs-in-System

I think its good to end it here as well, I think we have all said what we wanted to say, but just to clarify I didn't mean to imply Green Berets attacked schools, but that if elements of Taliban only attack military targets and restrain from murdering citizens then they should be treated as regular prisoners of war with the prospect to return home, but only once their organisation surrenders.

I'll accept in general it is a good idea to keep a distance and aim centre mass but I'm sure you realise I was describing very specific circumstance.

Also, I don't see how cannabis being in Martin's system is relevant to his culpability in any assault. THC lingers in the body long after it is consumed (up to 1 month) and after is has ANY effect on the brain. And of all the things cannabis does, predisposition towards violence is NOT one of them, it makes people mellow and relaxed like Cheech and Chong. The only bad thing to come from this is a hyper-legalistic premise that "he was a criminal" but he still had not just committed any crime to justify Zimmerman's aggressive and provocative intervention.

Cannabis in his system is as irrelevant as having nicotine in his system, or evidence that 2 days ago he had a beer, all illegal for a 17 year old but hardly singles him out as a thug. It is not the same as other cases where young men are high on PCP and Crack Cocaine and fight it out with the police, this kid had a doobie some time in the past month.
 

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Treblaine said:
Also, I don't see how cannabis being in Martin's system is relevant to his culpability in any assault. THC lingers in the body long after it is consumed (up to 1 month) and after is has ANY effect on the brain. And of all the things cannabis does, predisposition towards violence is NOT one of them
However, it might trigger paranoia.

I don't have sauce on the amount of drugs he had in his system so I have no way to tell if the traces actually mean anything.

Basically, it tells us that Zimmerman did not profile him for being black, he said in the call that he suspected the kid for being on drugs.
 

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ElPatron said:
Treblaine said:
Also, I don't see how cannabis being in Martin's system is relevant to his culpability in any assault. THC lingers in the body long after it is consumed (up to 1 month) and after is has ANY effect on the brain. And of all the things cannabis does, predisposition towards violence is NOT one of them
However, it might trigger paranoia.

I don't have sauce on the amount of drugs he had in his system so I have no way to tell if the traces actually mean anything.

Basically, it tells us that Zimmerman did not profile him for being black, he said in the call that he suspected the kid for being on drugs.
Except that it is an urban myth that weed makes you paranoid. The only link is how marijuana users are so hounded by police. What is however linked with violent crime are:
-Anger management issues
-Domestic abuse against loved ones
-getting into fights with police officers

All of which describe George Zimmerman and not Trayvon Martin. In most US states Zimmerman wouldn't be allowed to even buy a handgun let alone be granted a CCW licence for his history of violence.

It would be meaningless to have the amounts of THC in his system anyway as the active ingredient of cannabis has a very long and variable biological half life. Biological half life is the time it takes for the concentration to fall by half, so the time it takes to go from 100units per litre of blood to 50 units per litre is the same time it takes to fall from 50 units to 25 units. In other words it's impossible to tell if they smoked recently or a long time ago, the biological half life is so long and variable.

There is absolutely no way at all Zimmerman could profile him for drugs. The way he described him he profiled him for his attire and failing to recognise his own new neighbour. But even if he did profile him, that in itself isn't the problem, the problem was not just talking to this kid in a calming manner and identifying himself, before immediately calling the cops and chasing after him.
 

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Treblaine said:
biological half life. Biological half life is the time it takes for the concentration to fall by half
Wait. I know what Half Life is. The whole point of a Half Life is determining how "old" is something independently of the concentration of the father isotope.

You mean that THC breaks down into components we can't identify?
 

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ElPatron said:
Treblaine said:
biological half life. Biological half life is the time it takes for the concentration to fall by half
Wait. I know what Half Life is. The whole point of a Half Life is determining how "old" is something independently of the concentration of the father isotope.

You mean that THC breaks down into components we can't identify?
THC It isn't mainly broken down, it is removed via urine where it is lost to the sewer system.

You can't tell how old the THC was introduced as as you do not know:
-how large a dose originally went into the body
-how efficient their body is at removing it

When you are talking of halfing then a small change in the duration can lead to a huge change in the outcome.

Half life in RADIOMETRIC dating can be reliably done as radioisotopes have extremely regular half-life and you can compare the half-lives of different radioisotpes and their decay product to tell when a rock was last in a molten stage (where the products mixed constantly). And various other tricks with carbon dating. But THC this cannot be done