Teenager Shot Dead for Holding a Wii Remote

[Roxas1359]

I think it's 48 hours not 24 (correct me if I am wrong) and you're missing the point. Jail sucks and no one wants to be there so I would call it special treatment if she didn't get her 48 hour pit stop in the can before charges were filed or she was set free.

Varies depending on state, but the normal time I believe is 24 hours at max. Anyway, the reason for that is because they can't hold her in custody without a warrant after that.

 

[lacktheknack]

What if they're already stupid?

CAPTCHA: 'more cowbell'.

Because really, you can never have enough.

This is the worst question I've ever been asked. Ever.

I think it's 48 hours not 24 (correct me if I am wrong) and you're missing the point. Jail sucks and no one wants to be there so I would call it special treatment if she didn't get her 48 hour pit stop in the can before charges were filed or she was set free.

That's just being vengeful.

We already know there are no charges to be laid against her (not until the end of the investigation), so she doesn't have to go to jail.

Neither does anyone else if they have charges off the bat or know there won't be any.

That's not preferential treatment at all.

 

[otakon17]

The only "special treatment" she's getting is that she's getting far more death threats than the random stranger.

Well now hold on a minute, if she weren't a cop, wouldn't she have been in jail right after the shooting?

A person can not be held in jail without charges being filed for more than 24 hours. Police officer or not. If she were not a police officer, they would no more be able to hold her then if she were.

How so? She shot a person and killed them. In this hypothetical situation she'd have been immediately charged with the bear minimum of manslaughter to my knowledge, with the possibility of murder charges. However because she was an officer of the law, she's given leeway in this.

They will hold an investigation and the worst she'll get on a manslaughter charge is a few years in jail and expulsion from the police force and being barred from being gainfully employed from any similar job. What is this going to do? There could always be the factor that she feels justified in what she did, that she believed she was defending herself from a possible threat so all the social stigma in the world won't change that if she's stubborn enough.

However the real point here is nothing that is done after this event will matter for that family. It won't bring their son back and right now anyone concerned with the incident should send their condolences to them if possible.

All I want to know is how well lighted was the room and what color the Wii remote was.

 

[WeepingAngels]

The only "special treatment" she's getting is that she's getting far more death threats than the random stranger.

Well now hold on a minute, if she weren't a cop, wouldn't she have been in jail right after the shooting?

A person can not be held in jail without charges being filed for more than 24 hours. Police officer or not. If she were not a police officer, they would no more be able to hold her then if she were.

I think it's 48 hours not 24 and you're missing the point. Jail sucks and no one wants to be there so I would call it special treatment if she didn't get her 48 hour pit stop in the can before charges were filed or she was set free.

No, I believe it is 24. And you're missing the point. Placing her in jail without charges being filed for a period of time that exceeds that, would be biased against her. The police will not place you in jail unless they are planning to file charges. Even if they suspect you of a crime, they will wait until they have evidence. Otherwise that would be false imprisonment. Which she could actually sue for, much like you or I could.

I looked it up. It varies from state to state with some states allowing up to 72 hours.

I never said they should throw her in jail exceeding the amount of time they have to file charges. If Georgia only allows 24 hours before filing charges then they should have thrown in a holding cell for 24 hours. Just like they would if a regular citizen had shot and killed someone.

 

[lacktheknack]

The only "special treatment" she's getting is that she's getting far more death threats than the random stranger.

Well now hold on a minute, if she weren't a cop, wouldn't she have been in jail right after the shooting?

A person can not be held in jail without charges being filed for more than 24 hours. Police officer or not. If she were not a police officer, they would no more be able to hold her then if she were.

I think it's 48 hours not 24 and you're missing the point. Jail sucks and no one wants to be there so I would call it special treatment if she didn't get her 48 hour pit stop in the can before charges were filed or she was set free.

No, I believe it is 24. And you're missing the point. Placing her in jail without charges being filed for a period of time that exceeds that, would be biased against her. The police will not place you in jail unless they are planning to file charges. Even if they suspect you of a crime, they will wait until they have evidence. Otherwise that would be false imprisonment. Which she could actually sue for, much like you or I could.

I looked it up. It varies from state to state with some states allowing up to 72 hours.

I never said they should throw her in jail exceeding the amount of time they have to file charges. If Georgia only allows 24 hours before filing charges then they should have thrown in a holding cell for 24 hours. Just like they would if a regular citizen had shot and killed someone.

Not gonna respond to what I said?

 

[WeepingAngels]

That's just being vengeful.

We already know there are no charges to be laid against her (not until the end of the investigation), so she doesn't have to go to jail.

Neither does anyone else if they have charges off the bat or know there won't be any.

That's not preferential treatment at all.

So you don't think that I would go straight to jail if I, a civilian, had shot and killed this kid accidently?

 

[lacktheknack]

That's just being vengeful.

We already know there are no charges to be laid against her (not until the end of the investigation), so she doesn't have to go to jail.

Neither does anyone else if they have charges off the bat or know there won't be any.

That's not preferential treatment at all.

So you don't think that I would go straight to jail if I, a civilian, had shot and killed this kid accidently?

Not if your job required you to carry and use a gun. There'd be an investigation first, because it's job-related.

If the cop was off-duty when this happened, then she'd be in jail instantly, because it's not job related.

There's a reason a negligent factory worker isn't jailed the instant a poor repair job gets someone killed, even though he "tampered with the machinery and made it unsafe", which would get a civilian jailed instantly if they did that.

It's not hard to connect the dots, dude.

 

[Reed Spacer]

No cop, even the malicious ones, are stupid enough to run for it.

What if they're already stupid?

CAPTCHA: 'more cowbell'.

Because really, you can never have enough.

This is the worst question I've ever been asked. Ever.

I think it's 48 hours not 24 (correct me if I am wrong) and you're missing the point. Jail sucks and no one wants to be there so I would call it special treatment if she didn't get her 48 hour pit stop in the can before charges were filed or she was set free.

That's just being vengeful.

We already know there are no charges to be laid against her (not until the end of the investigation), so she doesn't have to go to jail.

Neither does anyone else if they have charges off the bat or know there won't be any.

That's not preferential treatment at all.

Well, I'm glad I could make this a red letter day for you.

You can take a screencap, and years down the road you can dazzle the grandkids.

 

[major_chaos]

I'm increasingly sure they want goat sacrifices.

I'm going to bring those up in future threads.

You know I hadn't considered that. Silly me thinking it was just robots or mayhem, I totally didn't think of using satanic rituals to summon demons from hell to act as law enforcement. Although I'm still not 100% sure that sounds better than the system we have now...

 

[lacktheknack]

I'm increasingly sure they want goat sacrifices.

I'm going to bring those up in future threads.

You know I hadn't considered that. Silly me thinking it was just robots or mayhem, I totally didn't think of using satanic rituals to summon demons from hell to act as law enforcement. Although I'm still not 100% sure that sounds better than the system we have now...

As a religious man, I'm heavily inclined against it. D:

 

[WeepingAngels]

That's just being vengeful.

We already know there are no charges to be laid against her (not until the end of the investigation), so she doesn't have to go to jail.

Neither does anyone else if they have charges off the bat or know there won't be any.

That's not preferential treatment at all.

So you don't think that I would go straight to jail if I, a civilian, had shot and killed this kid accidently?

Not if your job required you to carry and use a gun. There'd be an investigation first, because it's job-related.

If the cop was off-duty when this happened, then she'd be in jail instantly, because it's not job related.

It's not hard to connect the dots, dude.

So we are right back to: She didn't go straight to jail because she is a cop. I call that special treatment but that's just me.

In the end it's a small thing. Worth mentioning but not worth arguing about for hours.

 

[lacktheknack]

That's just being vengeful.

We already know there are no charges to be laid against her (not until the end of the investigation), so she doesn't have to go to jail.

Neither does anyone else if they have charges off the bat or know there won't be any.

That's not preferential treatment at all.

So you don't think that I would go straight to jail if I, a civilian, had shot and killed this kid accidently?

Not if your job required you to carry and use a gun. There'd be an investigation first, because it's job-related.

If the cop was off-duty when this happened, then she'd be in jail instantly, because it's not job related.

It's not hard to connect the dots, dude.

So we are right back to: She didn't go straight to jail because she is a cop. I call that special treatment but that's just me.

In the end it's a small thing. Worth mentioning but not worth arguing about for hours.

I did edit in an example of a factory worker skipping jail, but if you're willing to put it to bed, so am I.

 

[Saltyk]

The only "special treatment" she's getting is that she's getting far more death threats than the random stranger.

Well now hold on a minute, if she weren't a cop, wouldn't she have been in jail right after the shooting?

A person can not be held in jail without charges being filed for more than 24 hours. Police officer or not. If she were not a police officer, they would no more be able to hold her then if she were.

How so? She shot a person and killed them. In this hypothetical situation she'd have been immediately charged with the bear minimum of manslaughter to my knowledge, with the possibility of murder charges. However because she was an officer of the law, she's given leeway in this.

They will hold an investigation and the worst she'll get on a manslaughter charge is a few years in jail and expulsion from the police force and being barred from being gainfully employed from any similar job. What is this going to do? There could always be the factor that she feels justified in what she did, that she believed she was defending herself from a possible threat so all the social stigma in the world won't change that if she's stubborn enough.

However the real point here is nothing that is done after this event will matter for that family. It won't bring their son back and right now anyone concerned with the incident should send their condolences to them if possible.

All I want to know is how well light was the room and what color the Wii remote was.

And she was there serving a warrant. She had every right to be there. She wasn't at the wrong home or breaking down doors. She was there on official police business. There is conflicting testimony on what happened. An investigation could even prove that she acted in defense or was in the right.

There is also conflicting testimony on whether it was a Wiimote or a BB Gun. A BB gun could easily be confused for an actual gun.

No matter what you or anyone says or thinks, they will not hold her until they are prepared to press charges. The law can not hold a person in prison without charges being filed. This is done to protect everyone. Not just a police officer. If something comes up that gives them reason to think that she acted in the wrong (which is all too possible) they will arrest her.

As for her potential punishment, that is not up to me or you. Manslaughter is there as an alternative to Murder. If we didn't have it, odds are a lot of people would not serve any jail time. Cruel and Unusual punishment is illegal.

The only "special treatment" she's getting is that she's getting far more death threats than the random stranger.

Well now hold on a minute, if she weren't a cop, wouldn't she have been in jail right after the shooting?

A person can not be held in jail without charges being filed for more than 24 hours. Police officer or not. If she were not a police officer, they would no more be able to hold her then if she were.

I think it's 48 hours not 24 and you're missing the point. Jail sucks and no one wants to be there so I would call it special treatment if she didn't get her 48 hour pit stop in the can before charges were filed or she was set free.

No, I believe it is 24. And you're missing the point. Placing her in jail without charges being filed for a period of time that exceeds that, would be biased against her. The police will not place you in jail unless they are planning to file charges. Even if they suspect you of a crime, they will wait until they have evidence. Otherwise that would be false imprisonment. Which she could actually sue for, much like you or I could.

I looked it up. It varies from state to state with some states allowing up to 72 hours.

I never said they should throw her in jail exceeding the amount of time they have to file charges. If Georgia only allows 24 hours before filing charges then they should have thrown in a holding cell for 24 hours. Just like they would if a regular citizen had shot and killed someone.

And it will likely take more than 24 hours to finish the investigation. It would be premature to do so.

 

[WeepingAngels]

That's just being vengeful.

We already know there are no charges to be laid against her (not until the end of the investigation), so she doesn't have to go to jail.

Neither does anyone else if they have charges off the bat or know there won't be any.

That's not preferential treatment at all.

So you don't think that I would go straight to jail if I, a civilian, had shot and killed this kid accidently?

Not if your job required you to carry and use a gun. There'd be an investigation first, because it's job-related.

If the cop was off-duty when this happened, then she'd be in jail instantly, because it's not job related.

It's not hard to connect the dots, dude.

So we are right back to: She didn't go straight to jail because she is a cop. I call that special treatment but that's just me.

In the end it's a small thing. Worth mentioning but not worth arguing about for hours.

I did edit in an example of a factory worker skipping jail, but if you're willing to put it to bed, so am I.

Yeah, arguing on the internet just keeps me wide awake and I really need to start winding down. It's after midnight here.

 

[sageoftruth]

Ugh! That guy. I took an interest in his videos once since his opening music clicked for me, but I haven't been able to watch a single video of his all the way through. All of them are complete emotional wankfests and I worry about what extended exposure to them would do to my perception of the world.

 

[ecoho]

ok honestly id blame the teen for this. Here's why;

A) the idiot violated his parole there by bringing the cop there.
B) he then proceeded to open the door to someone who did not identify themselves
C) he did this while holding an object that can be easily mistaken for a gun(whether a wii remote or a bb gun both look like guns in the right light)

So yeah I blame the teen for his own death and no I don't think the cop should be charged with anything, trust me when I say this taking a human life is not something you get over even when its not your fault or they deserved it.(not saying the kid deserved it just want to clarify that)

To be fair, police are supposed to identify themselves. ("Open up! Police!")

Whether she identified herself or not will factor greatly into her reprimand.

very true and we wont know till after the trial. Till then I take no info from the family or there lawyer as fact as they are biased.

 

[DeadlyYellow]

It's sad that you don't instead wonder about the lost future for this innocent teenager.

Why would I care honestly? People of all ages are constantly dying, and I'm not shedding a tear for them either.

I'm really just taking a stick to a beehive for a larf, as I tend to do when some sod posts stories about saps getting beaten or killed by police.

 

[Jehovatron]

I have a feeling that the wiimote/BB gun-matter will end up focusing on this: https://www.google.com/search?q=wii+remote+gun+attachment&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=U7IIU-PcIqSQyAH_5YG4DQ&sqi=2&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAg&biw=1260&bih=829