tell me why you are childfree
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And yet we wonder why the population is shrinking in the western world...
Haven't had a chance to get kids. I think I will if I find a wife. getting a bit late for that, though.
Haven't had a chance to get kids. I think I will if I find a wife. getting a bit late for that, though.
I'm in my thirties. I have no maternal instinct whatsoever and don't sleep with men - I would think that the odds of winding up pregnant are beyond astronomical.
That I also seem to have inherited a psychological condition would also suggest to me that my genes shouldn't really go any further. Having hallucinations is not at all fun and a lifetime on medication makes a nasty mess.
That I also seem to have inherited a psychological condition would also suggest to me that my genes shouldn't really go any further. Having hallucinations is not at all fun and a lifetime on medication makes a nasty mess.
It is a money drain, it is a struggle and they can be damn annoying.Magic Hobo said:
But in end it's all worth it, I think.
I am 23 and I have 2 kids (2 and 4 years odl atm), and I wouldn't trade em for the world!
Hard to explain what makes it so awesome, but trust me, it really is.
I'm 35. I haven't had any kids and I won't be. Why?Wounded Melody said:
* Loss of time
* Loss of autonomy
* I don't like living with other people, I like my personal space
* My lifestyle is not a good role model for any child (or adult, if we're going to get really nitpicky)
* I find babies physically repulsive, the "awwww" feeling some people get when they hold babies, I don't get that
* I don't earn enough money to support a child, it's hard enough feeding and clothing myself
* Given the drain on resources the average human creates, the world may in fact function better without my offspring
* The child will almost certainly be able to beat me at computer games
I'm neutral to the idea of having kids.
While I do see the satisfaction to be had from raising your own offspring I:
A) Am single.
B) Am 23 and still have lots of things I want to do not tied down.
C) Hate babies.
On the point of C, notice I did not say 'children' or 'teenagers' but babies. Once kids hit about four or so, have semi-coherent language skills and don't shit themselves all the time I have no problem with them in general and indeed they can even be kind of fun. Babies on the other hand are just demanding, loud, smelly little shit-n-piss factories that aren't cute in the slightest.
That's probably the single largest stumbling block in my mind to the prospect of my future reproduction. If or when it happens I'll probably get my significant other to agree to us having two and only two and having them as close to each other time-wise as possible so they'll both be out of the 'useless demanding meatsack' phase as quick as possible.
Then once that unpleasant phase is out of the way we'll never have to deal with or think about it again.
The one thing that absolutely does not figure into the equation at all is overpopulation. When I see virtually all modern western countries have low birthrates and populations in decline all it does is further prove that the best form of population control is having a functioning economy and a not-fucked-in-the-ass society. As such I think the best way to save the Earth is to raise the standard of living world-wide to western standards, not smugly running around sneering at people who have kids as evil eco-destroyers which helps no one and is useless at best. About the only lip service I pay to the concept is that as mentioned before if I do have kids then I plan to have only two thus effectively replacing myself and whoever I have kids with therefore balancing the equation out, if that's not good enough for Some People(TM) [http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/] they can stuff it.
Bah, that's all a topic in-of-itself for another day.
While I do see the satisfaction to be had from raising your own offspring I:
A) Am single.
B) Am 23 and still have lots of things I want to do not tied down.
C) Hate babies.
On the point of C, notice I did not say 'children' or 'teenagers' but babies. Once kids hit about four or so, have semi-coherent language skills and don't shit themselves all the time I have no problem with them in general and indeed they can even be kind of fun. Babies on the other hand are just demanding, loud, smelly little shit-n-piss factories that aren't cute in the slightest.
That's probably the single largest stumbling block in my mind to the prospect of my future reproduction. If or when it happens I'll probably get my significant other to agree to us having two and only two and having them as close to each other time-wise as possible so they'll both be out of the 'useless demanding meatsack' phase as quick as possible.
Then once that unpleasant phase is out of the way we'll never have to deal with or think about it again.
The one thing that absolutely does not figure into the equation at all is overpopulation. When I see virtually all modern western countries have low birthrates and populations in decline all it does is further prove that the best form of population control is having a functioning economy and a not-fucked-in-the-ass society. As such I think the best way to save the Earth is to raise the standard of living world-wide to western standards, not smugly running around sneering at people who have kids as evil eco-destroyers which helps no one and is useless at best. About the only lip service I pay to the concept is that as mentioned before if I do have kids then I plan to have only two thus effectively replacing myself and whoever I have kids with therefore balancing the equation out, if that's not good enough for Some People(TM) [http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/] they can stuff it.
Bah, that's all a topic in-of-itself for another day.
I really have no interest in having kids. Of course I'm still young (nearly 20) and all this can change as I get older... I have thought it through a lot though.
I do love kids, I love other peoples kids. I love interacting with kids and I love their innocence and joy. I'm also surprisingly good at entertaining kids, but they are only really good for me in small doses. There are certain things (numerous) that I could not deal with on a daily basis, and raising a child is a lot of work that I don't think I would be able to cope with. It just doesn't fit in with my lifestyle and I can't see it ever fitting in. I also personally do not see much of a life reward for all the effort I would have to go through, and I really don't think having my own child would 'add' anything to my life in my honest opinion. But what do I know, right?
The only problem with this ideal is finding a woman who feels the same, as there are definitely more women who want kids than women who don't, from my experience. and having a child is such a huge life changer and such a personal NIGHTMARE for me that my choice in the matter is not a freedom I would be able to just sacrifice for the sake of my relationship.
I do understand why people want them but I just personally don't. All I want in life is to find a gorgeous, interesting girl who I love and who loves me; and wants the same things, so we can live out our lives just enjoying each other without being too tied down. If this ever happens I will honestly feel like my life is complete at that point.
I do love kids, I love other peoples kids. I love interacting with kids and I love their innocence and joy. I'm also surprisingly good at entertaining kids, but they are only really good for me in small doses. There are certain things (numerous) that I could not deal with on a daily basis, and raising a child is a lot of work that I don't think I would be able to cope with. It just doesn't fit in with my lifestyle and I can't see it ever fitting in. I also personally do not see much of a life reward for all the effort I would have to go through, and I really don't think having my own child would 'add' anything to my life in my honest opinion. But what do I know, right?
The only problem with this ideal is finding a woman who feels the same, as there are definitely more women who want kids than women who don't, from my experience. and having a child is such a huge life changer and such a personal NIGHTMARE for me that my choice in the matter is not a freedom I would be able to just sacrifice for the sake of my relationship.
I do understand why people want them but I just personally don't. All I want in life is to find a gorgeous, interesting girl who I love and who loves me; and wants the same things, so we can live out our lives just enjoying each other without being too tied down. If this ever happens I will honestly feel like my life is complete at that point.
What else was there to read? All I said was I don't understand why people use the argument "If everyone did (Y) (X) would happen" and I went about voicing my reasons why the argument (at least in this context) is flawed.Gxas said:
