Texas Judge Will Not Be Charged for Severely Beating His Daughter

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Owyn_Merrilin said:
That last part is what confused me about the way the court system claimed they believed he was guilty, and he was only getting off on a technicality. As far as I know, none of the physical abuse in this video actually breaks any laws; certainly not in Texas, probably nowhere in the US. What's much more worrying is the emotional abuse that was on display. That may actually be what they would have prosecuted him for, had the statute of limitations not already passed.
I don't anything about it I was just quoting the other guy :D

But I can say that here in Denmark that shit wouldn't fly.
 

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I'm a parent. And there's really no need to beat a child like this. To those who say 'OH THIS ISN'T SEVERLY BEATING!! THERE'S WORSE OUT THERE!' STFU and get out. Sure, nothing was broken. Sure, she wasn't thrown into anything, etc. She was hit, with a belt, so many times it's not funny. It's a beating, pure and simple. And it's still wrong.

Oh, she was stealing? So what? Ground them, do what that other guy up there said and take away her computer, give her lots of chores. Our eldest caused a lot of trouble, back chatting, fighting with her sister, the rest of it. She's grounded for two weeks, bed at 7pm, has to clean her room every day after school, has to do homework as soon as she's home, etc. She's behaving now, because guess what? It's boring.

You don't need to beat your child. You don't need to hurt them like this.

And if anyone else was beaten worse than this, then dudes: Your parents sucked at being parents. It's simple.

Also: You're right, a smack never hurt anyone. Are they needed? Not really. You're an adult. Use your head when it comes to punishing your child.
What I was saying was not to diminish the severity of the crime. It was not to let the hyperbolic reaction of the internet at large diminish the severity of the far, far more severe crimes that occur on a regular basis. I can almost guarantee you that right now, somewhere in the US a child is being given a beating that makes this one look like a time out. Where is the outrage for that level of child abuse? Why make an example of this one man, when what we really have is a systemic problem, which needs a lot more than one person going to jail seven years after the fact for anything to be done about it? That's the real issue here.

Edit: Also, ironically enough, I am both the guy who said they should have taken away her computer, and the guy who pointed out that there are much, much worse cases of abuse going on. You might want to pay more attention to usernames, or at least avatars.
Don't really care too much about who's who, tbh. And no, people ARE up in arms about that level of child abuse, whenever a case gets brought to light. The reason why people are angry about /This/ is because they can see a video of it taking place, and to make matters worse, then man is a judge, who, correct me if I'm wrong, is ment to be a paragon of Law And Justice.

So no, this subhuman deserves what you'd get for assaulting a child reguardless.

And if this is Legal in Texas, well, this makes me sad about the United States.
I guess what bothers me about the internet's reaction to the video (not the video itself, which is its own set of horrors) is just the whole "out of sight, out of mind" aspect. The fact is, when talking about abused children, what we're seeing in this video is relatively mild -- in fact, the physical abuse on display is probably even legal in most states, although the emotional abuse could still get Judge Adams in trouble. If a video of this level of abuse sets the internet off into a righteous fury, what is stopping them from mobilizing to truly do something about child abuse? They're upset more because this video reminded them that it happens than anything else -- like I said, much worse occurs on a daily basis, but they didn't get angry about it until this video was released. Out of sight, out of mind.
 

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Owyn_Merrilin said:
ScreamingNinja said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
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I'm a parent. And there's really no need to beat a child like this. To those who say 'OH THIS ISN'T SEVERLY BEATING!! THERE'S WORSE OUT THERE!' STFU and get out. Sure, nothing was broken. Sure, she wasn't thrown into anything, etc. She was hit, with a belt, so many times it's not funny. It's a beating, pure and simple. And it's still wrong.

Oh, she was stealing? So what? Ground them, do what that other guy up there said and take away her computer, give her lots of chores. Our eldest caused a lot of trouble, back chatting, fighting with her sister, the rest of it. She's grounded for two weeks, bed at 7pm, has to clean her room every day after school, has to do homework as soon as she's home, etc. She's behaving now, because guess what? It's boring.

You don't need to beat your child. You don't need to hurt them like this.

And if anyone else was beaten worse than this, then dudes: Your parents sucked at being parents. It's simple.

Also: You're right, a smack never hurt anyone. Are they needed? Not really. You're an adult. Use your head when it comes to punishing your child.
What I was saying was not to diminish the severity of the crime. It was not to let the hyperbolic reaction of the internet at large diminish the severity of the far, far more severe crimes that occur on a regular basis. I can almost guarantee you that right now, somewhere in the US a child is being given a beating that makes this one look like a time out. Where is the outrage for that level of child abuse? Why make an example of this one man, when what we really have is a systemic problem, which needs a lot more than one person going to jail seven years after the fact for anything to be done about it? That's the real issue here.

Edit: Also, ironically enough, I am both the guy who said they should have taken away her computer, and the guy who pointed out that there are much, much worse cases of abuse going on. You might want to pay more attention to usernames, or at least avatars.
Don't really care too much about who's who, tbh. And no, people ARE up in arms about that level of child abuse, whenever a case gets brought to light. The reason why people are angry about /This/ is because they can see a video of it taking place, and to make matters worse, then man is a judge, who, correct me if I'm wrong, is ment to be a paragon of Law And Justice.

So no, this subhuman deserves what you'd get for assaulting a child reguardless.

And if this is Legal in Texas, well, this makes me sad about the United States.
I guess what bothers me about the internet's reaction to the video (not the video itself, which is its own set of horrors) is just the whole "out of sight, out of mind" aspect. The fact is, when talking about abused children, what we're seeing in this video is relatively mild -- in fact, the physical abuse on display is probably even legal in most states, although the emotional abuse could still get Judge Adams in trouble. If a video of this level of abuse sets the internet off into a righteous fury, what is stopping them from mobilizing to truly do something about child abuse? They're upset more because this video reminded them that it happens than anything else -- like I said, much worse occurs on a daily basis, but they didn't get angry about it until this video was released. Out of sight, out of mind.
Cool story bro. Doesn't change that fact that this is wrong, for normal humans. Doesn't change that what he did is disgusting. I don't think anyone really has to point out that worse than this happens, and happens all the time. And I'm sure if you sit there and ask anyone 'Hey, do you think bouncing a kids head off the pavement for stealing some candy is cool?' I can promise you that most humans would be all 'Fuck no, what the hell!'

So yeah. Just seemed like you're pointing out something that doesn't really need to be pointed out, and kinda takes away from the whole 'This Judge is a douchebag who shouldn't spawn more overlords.'
 

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the guy probably had connections or the US justice system is more backwards then people have thought.
Nope. That's just how the system works. It blows.

However, this man will receive very negative repercussions, even without going to jail. He is taken off the bench for the next two weeks, and probably will not be able to have a professional career after this. As a judge, at least. This incident will not go away for a long time, and during that time he is essentially blacklisted. So while he won't go to jail for beating a child with a belt, his career as a judge, and really, anything else, is over.
 

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A guy beat his daughter, but because he was part of the legal system he got off clean?

I don't want to live on this planet any more.
 

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Owyn_Merrilin said:
I guess what bothers me about the internet's reaction to the video (not the video itself, which is its own set of horrors) is just the whole "out of sight, out of mind" aspect. The fact is, when talking about abused children, what we're seeing in this video is relatively mild -- in fact, the physical abuse on display is probably even legal in most states, although the emotional abuse could still get Judge Adams in trouble. If a video of this level of abuse sets the internet off into a righteous fury, what is stopping them from mobilizing to truly do something about child abuse? They're upset more because this video reminded them that it happens than anything else -- like I said, much worse occurs on a daily basis, but they didn't get angry about it until this video was released. Out of sight, out of mind.
I don't really know how it is in the U.S, but in Denmark you have a duty as a citizen to report abuse if you have a reasonable suspicion of it happening. People working in kindergartens, and youth clubs have a "sharpened" (can't find the word I'm looking for) duty to report it.

As far as I know there isn't any "loopholes" in the child abuse laws here either.
 

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ScreamingNinja said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
ScreamingNinja said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
ScreamingNinja said:
I'm a parent. And there's really no need to beat a child like this. To those who say 'OH THIS ISN'T SEVERLY BEATING!! THERE'S WORSE OUT THERE!' STFU and get out. Sure, nothing was broken. Sure, she wasn't thrown into anything, etc. She was hit, with a belt, so many times it's not funny. It's a beating, pure and simple. And it's still wrong.

Oh, she was stealing? So what? Ground them, do what that other guy up there said and take away her computer, give her lots of chores. Our eldest caused a lot of trouble, back chatting, fighting with her sister, the rest of it. She's grounded for two weeks, bed at 7pm, has to clean her room every day after school, has to do homework as soon as she's home, etc. She's behaving now, because guess what? It's boring.

You don't need to beat your child. You don't need to hurt them like this.

And if anyone else was beaten worse than this, then dudes: Your parents sucked at being parents. It's simple.

Also: You're right, a smack never hurt anyone. Are they needed? Not really. You're an adult. Use your head when it comes to punishing your child.
What I was saying was not to diminish the severity of the crime. It was not to let the hyperbolic reaction of the internet at large diminish the severity of the far, far more severe crimes that occur on a regular basis. I can almost guarantee you that right now, somewhere in the US a child is being given a beating that makes this one look like a time out. Where is the outrage for that level of child abuse? Why make an example of this one man, when what we really have is a systemic problem, which needs a lot more than one person going to jail seven years after the fact for anything to be done about it? That's the real issue here.

Edit: Also, ironically enough, I am both the guy who said they should have taken away her computer, and the guy who pointed out that there are much, much worse cases of abuse going on. You might want to pay more attention to usernames, or at least avatars.
Don't really care too much about who's who, tbh. And no, people ARE up in arms about that level of child abuse, whenever a case gets brought to light. The reason why people are angry about /This/ is because they can see a video of it taking place, and to make matters worse, then man is a judge, who, correct me if I'm wrong, is ment to be a paragon of Law And Justice.

So no, this subhuman deserves what you'd get for assaulting a child reguardless.

And if this is Legal in Texas, well, this makes me sad about the United States.
I guess what bothers me about the internet's reaction to the video (not the video itself, which is its own set of horrors) is just the whole "out of sight, out of mind" aspect. The fact is, when talking about abused children, what we're seeing in this video is relatively mild -- in fact, the physical abuse on display is probably even legal in most states, although the emotional abuse could still get Judge Adams in trouble. If a video of this level of abuse sets the internet off into a righteous fury, what is stopping them from mobilizing to truly do something about child abuse? They're upset more because this video reminded them that it happens than anything else -- like I said, much worse occurs on a daily basis, but they didn't get angry about it until this video was released. Out of sight, out of mind.
Cool story bro. Doesn't change that fact that this is wrong, for normal humans. Doesn't change that what he did is disgusting. I don't think anyone really has to point out that worse than this happens, and happens all the time. And I'm sure if you sit there and ask anyone 'Hey, do you think bouncing a kids head off the pavement for stealing some candy is cool?' I can promise you that most humans would be all 'Fuck no, what the hell!'

So yeah. Just seemed like you're pointing out something that doesn't really need to be pointed out, and kinda takes away from the whole 'This Judge is a douchebag who shouldn't spawn more overlords.'
The problem here is that "this judge," while clearly a douchebag, is actually representative of a good chunk of parents -- and I'm not talking about the ones who get in trouble for child abuse. Spanking your kids, even with a belt, is legal in most, if not all states in the union. It's not just that worse than this happens: it's that people are acting like this is the worst abuse they've ever heard of. It's not, and we really need to be going after the people who do worse. Going after this guy, and not those guys, is akin to having a public outrage over a mugger who left his one victim alive, while completely ignoring the serial killer next door, because his crime wasn't caught on video; again, out of sight, out of mind.
 

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That's kind of... annoying. Can someone explain to me the purpose of a statue of limitations?
Basically so the justice system doesn't get bogged down with relatively minor stuff from years ago when there are much more pressing concerns in the present. It sucks but that's just the way it is. If it's any consolation this is probably a career ender for the guy.
 

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Caff said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
I guess what bothers me about the internet's reaction to the video (not the video itself, which is its own set of horrors) is just the whole "out of sight, out of mind" aspect. The fact is, when talking about abused children, what we're seeing in this video is relatively mild -- in fact, the physical abuse on display is probably even legal in most states, although the emotional abuse could still get Judge Adams in trouble. If a video of this level of abuse sets the internet off into a righteous fury, what is stopping them from mobilizing to truly do something about child abuse? They're upset more because this video reminded them that it happens than anything else -- like I said, much worse occurs on a daily basis, but they didn't get angry about it until this video was released. Out of sight, out of mind.
I don't really know how it is in the U.S, but in Denmark you have a duty as a citizen to report abuse if you have a reasonable suspicion of it happening. People working in kindergartens, and youth clubs have a "sharpened" (can't find the word I'm looking for) duty to report it.

As far as I know there isn't any "loopholes" in the child abuse laws here either.
Actually, we have the same laws in the US, especially for people involved in medicine, education, and childcare. My issue isn't that this man is being reported for abuse; it's that his abusing days are over, (I mean, do you really think his daughter is going to leave any grandkids around him?) but the internet hate machine is still going full tilt after him, instead of going after people who are currently abusing their children; if they would do that, they could do some actual good. Instead, Anonops is posting his address and telling people to order pizzas in his name, like that will do any good.

Edit: As for the "loophole" you mentioned, it's not a loophole; corporal punishment, from a parent to a child, is legal in this country, as long as it doesn't actually injure the kid. Chalk it up to our puritan heritage.
 

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Owyn_Merrilin said:
ScreamingNinja said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
ScreamingNinja said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
ScreamingNinja said:
I'm a parent. And there's really no need to beat a child like this. To those who say 'OH THIS ISN'T SEVERLY BEATING!! THERE'S WORSE OUT THERE!' STFU and get out. Sure, nothing was broken. Sure, she wasn't thrown into anything, etc. She was hit, with a belt, so many times it's not funny. It's a beating, pure and simple. And it's still wrong.

Oh, she was stealing? So what? Ground them, do what that other guy up there said and take away her computer, give her lots of chores. Our eldest caused a lot of trouble, back chatting, fighting with her sister, the rest of it. She's grounded for two weeks, bed at 7pm, has to clean her room every day after school, has to do homework as soon as she's home, etc. She's behaving now, because guess what? It's boring.

You don't need to beat your child. You don't need to hurt them like this.

And if anyone else was beaten worse than this, then dudes: Your parents sucked at being parents. It's simple.

Also: You're right, a smack never hurt anyone. Are they needed? Not really. You're an adult. Use your head when it comes to punishing your child.
What I was saying was not to diminish the severity of the crime. It was not to let the hyperbolic reaction of the internet at large diminish the severity of the far, far more severe crimes that occur on a regular basis. I can almost guarantee you that right now, somewhere in the US a child is being given a beating that makes this one look like a time out. Where is the outrage for that level of child abuse? Why make an example of this one man, when what we really have is a systemic problem, which needs a lot more than one person going to jail seven years after the fact for anything to be done about it? That's the real issue here.

Edit: Also, ironically enough, I am both the guy who said they should have taken away her computer, and the guy who pointed out that there are much, much worse cases of abuse going on. You might want to pay more attention to usernames, or at least avatars.
Don't really care too much about who's who, tbh. And no, people ARE up in arms about that level of child abuse, whenever a case gets brought to light. The reason why people are angry about /This/ is because they can see a video of it taking place, and to make matters worse, then man is a judge, who, correct me if I'm wrong, is ment to be a paragon of Law And Justice.

So no, this subhuman deserves what you'd get for assaulting a child reguardless.

And if this is Legal in Texas, well, this makes me sad about the United States.
I guess what bothers me about the internet's reaction to the video (not the video itself, which is its own set of horrors) is just the whole "out of sight, out of mind" aspect. The fact is, when talking about abused children, what we're seeing in this video is relatively mild -- in fact, the physical abuse on display is probably even legal in most states, although the emotional abuse could still get Judge Adams in trouble. If a video of this level of abuse sets the internet off into a righteous fury, what is stopping them from mobilizing to truly do something about child abuse? They're upset more because this video reminded them that it happens than anything else -- like I said, much worse occurs on a daily basis, but they didn't get angry about it until this video was released. Out of sight, out of mind.
Cool story bro. Doesn't change that fact that this is wrong, for normal humans. Doesn't change that what he did is disgusting. I don't think anyone really has to point out that worse than this happens, and happens all the time. And I'm sure if you sit there and ask anyone 'Hey, do you think bouncing a kids head off the pavement for stealing some candy is cool?' I can promise you that most humans would be all 'Fuck no, what the hell!'

So yeah. Just seemed like you're pointing out something that doesn't really need to be pointed out, and kinda takes away from the whole 'This Judge is a douchebag who shouldn't spawn more overlords.'
The problem here is that "this judge," while clearly a douchebag, is actually representative of a good chunk of parents -- and I'm not talking about the ones who get in trouble for child abuse. Spanking your kids, even with a belt, is legal in most, if not all states in the union. It's not just that worse than this happens: it's that people are acting like this is the worst abuse they've ever heard of. It's not, and we really need to be going after the people who do worse. Going after this guy, and not those guys, is akin to having a public outrage over a mugger who left his one victim alive, while completely ignoring the serial killer next door, because his crime wasn't caught on video; again, out of sight, out of mind.
You've gotta start somewhere. And people do go after the other people who do the terrible child abusing, you seem to forget that. People don't just shrug their shoulders while some Dad is shanking his son because he ate all the cookies. That shit gets reported too. This is an outcry because A) You're right, it's on youtube, lots of people have seen it, B) This is still considering 'Brutal' in a lot of the 'first world' countries and is wrong/shocking and C) The guy is a judge.

Look, we all know that what this guy did is wrong. We all know that there's worse out there. But overlooking this BECAUSE there's worse out there, is stupid.

And if this is legal in most Union states, then dude, all the parents who do this shit need to man up and actually act like adults, not fucktards.

Seriously: Anyone reading this forum who hits their children with belts.. You are offically a fucking idiot who should give your child to someone who knows how to treat little people.
 

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Got to ask this question because it only seems fair. This girl do anything else besides downloading stuff? Girl got hit with a belt over and over again and that is wrong. Belt could of been used like once or twice to scare her into not doing it ever again. Like to think we are a nation of marshmellows now. Think back to when your parents where children. Your father would smack the crap out of your behind for being a brat, your mom to. Your not allowed to spank your child without some douchbag office type getting you in trouble. You know my mom spanked me when I was a kid and it helped me to be a better person. It seems like the guy in the video just a went a little overboard.
Yea, but the reason corporal punishment is so frowned upon is that it's easy to confuse doing it out of concern for the child's behavior or just because you're pissed off at the kid and want to hit him/her. I think the latter case applies to this guy.
 

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That's genuinely disappointing.

I wasn't aware that stature of limitations applied in the face of hard, video evidence. Sure the prosecution couldn't prove that the abuse carried on beyond the events of the video but he can prove that, for eight minutes, a disgusting bully and sorry excuse for a person beat his underage mentally challenged daughter cruelly.

If you want justice for this girl, post this video everywhere you can. Send it to everyone you know and ask them to pass it along. Make it so that this thug can't walk down the street without people pointing and whispering. Make it so that he can't go grocery shopping without mothers and fathers pulling their children away from him. Make him synonymous with child abuse and some small justice may still be done for Hillary
 

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Actually, we have the same laws in the US, especially for people involved in medicine, education, and childcare. My issue isn't that this man is being reported for abuse; it's that his abusing days are over, (I mean, do you really think his daughter is going to leave any grandkids around him?) but the internet hate machine is still going full tilt after him, instead of going after people who are currently abusing their children; if they would do that, they could do some actual good. Instead, Anonops is posting his address and telling people to order pizzas in his name, like that will do any good.

Edit: As for the "loophole" you mentioned, it's not a loophole; corporal punishment, from a parent to a child, is legal in this country, as long as it doesn't actually injure the kid. Chalk it up to our puritan heritage.
Well the whole pizza thing is people pissed at the fact that he won't be doing any jail time... or just state punishment.. at least that's what I think.

The loophole thing... well for me it's a loophole not much there other than personal oppinion... which most of my post have been. I suck at arguing :p
 

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ScreamingNinja said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
ScreamingNinja said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
ScreamingNinja said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
ScreamingNinja said:
I'm a parent. And there's really no need to beat a child like this. To those who say 'OH THIS ISN'T SEVERLY BEATING!! THERE'S WORSE OUT THERE!' STFU and get out. Sure, nothing was broken. Sure, she wasn't thrown into anything, etc. She was hit, with a belt, so many times it's not funny. It's a beating, pure and simple. And it's still wrong.

Oh, she was stealing? So what? Ground them, do what that other guy up there said and take away her computer, give her lots of chores. Our eldest caused a lot of trouble, back chatting, fighting with her sister, the rest of it. She's grounded for two weeks, bed at 7pm, has to clean her room every day after school, has to do homework as soon as she's home, etc. She's behaving now, because guess what? It's boring.

You don't need to beat your child. You don't need to hurt them like this.

And if anyone else was beaten worse than this, then dudes: Your parents sucked at being parents. It's simple.

Also: You're right, a smack never hurt anyone. Are they needed? Not really. You're an adult. Use your head when it comes to punishing your child.
What I was saying was not to diminish the severity of the crime. It was not to let the hyperbolic reaction of the internet at large diminish the severity of the far, far more severe crimes that occur on a regular basis. I can almost guarantee you that right now, somewhere in the US a child is being given a beating that makes this one look like a time out. Where is the outrage for that level of child abuse? Why make an example of this one man, when what we really have is a systemic problem, which needs a lot more than one person going to jail seven years after the fact for anything to be done about it? That's the real issue here.

Edit: Also, ironically enough, I am both the guy who said they should have taken away her computer, and the guy who pointed out that there are much, much worse cases of abuse going on. You might want to pay more attention to usernames, or at least avatars.
Don't really care too much about who's who, tbh. And no, people ARE up in arms about that level of child abuse, whenever a case gets brought to light. The reason why people are angry about /This/ is because they can see a video of it taking place, and to make matters worse, then man is a judge, who, correct me if I'm wrong, is ment to be a paragon of Law And Justice.

So no, this subhuman deserves what you'd get for assaulting a child reguardless.

And if this is Legal in Texas, well, this makes me sad about the United States.
I guess what bothers me about the internet's reaction to the video (not the video itself, which is its own set of horrors) is just the whole "out of sight, out of mind" aspect. The fact is, when talking about abused children, what we're seeing in this video is relatively mild -- in fact, the physical abuse on display is probably even legal in most states, although the emotional abuse could still get Judge Adams in trouble. If a video of this level of abuse sets the internet off into a righteous fury, what is stopping them from mobilizing to truly do something about child abuse? They're upset more because this video reminded them that it happens than anything else -- like I said, much worse occurs on a daily basis, but they didn't get angry about it until this video was released. Out of sight, out of mind.
Cool story bro. Doesn't change that fact that this is wrong, for normal humans. Doesn't change that what he did is disgusting. I don't think anyone really has to point out that worse than this happens, and happens all the time. And I'm sure if you sit there and ask anyone 'Hey, do you think bouncing a kids head off the pavement for stealing some candy is cool?' I can promise you that most humans would be all 'Fuck no, what the hell!'

So yeah. Just seemed like you're pointing out something that doesn't really need to be pointed out, and kinda takes away from the whole 'This Judge is a douchebag who shouldn't spawn more overlords.'
The problem here is that "this judge," while clearly a douchebag, is actually representative of a good chunk of parents -- and I'm not talking about the ones who get in trouble for child abuse. Spanking your kids, even with a belt, is legal in most, if not all states in the union. It's not just that worse than this happens: it's that people are acting like this is the worst abuse they've ever heard of. It's not, and we really need to be going after the people who do worse. Going after this guy, and not those guys, is akin to having a public outrage over a mugger who left his one victim alive, while completely ignoring the serial killer next door, because his crime wasn't caught on video; again, out of sight, out of mind.
You've gotta start somewhere. And people do go after the other people who do the terrible child abusing, you seem to forget that. People don't just shrug their shoulders while some Dad is shanking his son because he ate all the cookies. That shit gets reported too. This is an outcry because A) You're right, it's on youtube, lots of people have seen it, B) This is still considering 'Brutal' in a lot of the 'first world' countries and is wrong/shocking and C) The guy is a judge.

Look, we all know that what this guy did is wrong. We all know that there's worse out there. But overlooking this BECAUSE there's worse out there, is stupid.

And if this is legal in most Union states, then dude, all the parents who do this shit need to man up and actually act like adults, not fucktards.

Seriously: Anyone reading this forum who hits their children with belts.. You are offically a fucking idiot who should give your child to someone who knows how to treat little people.
Thing is, I'm not saying we should overlook it. I'm saying we don't need to be pouring all of our energies into bringing some kind of karmic justice down on a guy who can't legally be prosecuted at this point. He's not likely to be left in charge of anyone's kids from this point on anyway; if we're really trying to do some good here, we need to move onto the next abusive parent, and then once we've taken that to its conclusion, the abusive parent after that. Continually sending takeout to this guy's house isn't going to do any good.
 

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Owyn_Merrilin said:
ScreamingNinja said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
ScreamingNinja said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
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I'm a parent. And there's really no need to beat a child like this. To those who say 'OH THIS ISN'T SEVERLY BEATING!! THERE'S WORSE OUT THERE!' STFU and get out. Sure, nothing was broken. Sure, she wasn't thrown into anything, etc. She was hit, with a belt, so many times it's not funny. It's a beating, pure and simple. And it's still wrong.

Oh, she was stealing? So what? Ground them, do what that other guy up there said and take away her computer, give her lots of chores. Our eldest caused a lot of trouble, back chatting, fighting with her sister, the rest of it. She's grounded for two weeks, bed at 7pm, has to clean her room every day after school, has to do homework as soon as she's home, etc. She's behaving now, because guess what? It's boring.

You don't need to beat your child. You don't need to hurt them like this.

And if anyone else was beaten worse than this, then dudes: Your parents sucked at being parents. It's simple.

Also: You're right, a smack never hurt anyone. Are they needed? Not really. You're an adult. Use your head when it comes to punishing your child.
What I was saying was not to diminish the severity of the crime. It was not to let the hyperbolic reaction of the internet at large diminish the severity of the far, far more severe crimes that occur on a regular basis. I can almost guarantee you that right now, somewhere in the US a child is being given a beating that makes this one look like a time out. Where is the outrage for that level of child abuse? Why make an example of this one man, when what we really have is a systemic problem, which needs a lot more than one person going to jail seven years after the fact for anything to be done about it? That's the real issue here.

Edit: Also, ironically enough, I am both the guy who said they should have taken away her computer, and the guy who pointed out that there are much, much worse cases of abuse going on. You might want to pay more attention to usernames, or at least avatars.
Don't really care too much about who's who, tbh. And no, people ARE up in arms about that level of child abuse, whenever a case gets brought to light. The reason why people are angry about /This/ is because they can see a video of it taking place, and to make matters worse, then man is a judge, who, correct me if I'm wrong, is ment to be a paragon of Law And Justice.

So no, this subhuman deserves what you'd get for assaulting a child reguardless.

And if this is Legal in Texas, well, this makes me sad about the United States.
I guess what bothers me about the internet's reaction to the video (not the video itself, which is its own set of horrors) is just the whole "out of sight, out of mind" aspect. The fact is, when talking about abused children, what we're seeing in this video is relatively mild -- in fact, the physical abuse on display is probably even legal in most states, although the emotional abuse could still get Judge Adams in trouble. If a video of this level of abuse sets the internet off into a righteous fury, what is stopping them from mobilizing to truly do something about child abuse? They're upset more because this video reminded them that it happens than anything else -- like I said, much worse occurs on a daily basis, but they didn't get angry about it until this video was released. Out of sight, out of mind.
Cool story bro. Doesn't change that fact that this is wrong, for normal humans. Doesn't change that what he did is disgusting. I don't think anyone really has to point out that worse than this happens, and happens all the time. And I'm sure if you sit there and ask anyone 'Hey, do you think bouncing a kids head off the pavement for stealing some candy is cool?' I can promise you that most humans would be all 'Fuck no, what the hell!'

So yeah. Just seemed like you're pointing out something that doesn't really need to be pointed out, and kinda takes away from the whole 'This Judge is a douchebag who shouldn't spawn more overlords.'
The problem here is that "this judge," while clearly a douchebag, is actually representative of a good chunk of parents -- and I'm not talking about the ones who get in trouble for child abuse. Spanking your kids, even with a belt, is legal in most, if not all states in the union. It's not just that worse than this happens: it's that people are acting like this is the worst abuse they've ever heard of. It's not, and we really need to be going after the people who do worse. Going after this guy, and not those guys, is akin to having a public outrage over a mugger who left his one victim alive, while completely ignoring the serial killer next door, because his crime wasn't caught on video; again, out of sight, out of mind.
You've gotta start somewhere. And people do go after the other people who do the terrible child abusing, you seem to forget that. People don't just shrug their shoulders while some Dad is shanking his son because he ate all the cookies. That shit gets reported too. This is an outcry because A) You're right, it's on youtube, lots of people have seen it, B) This is still considering 'Brutal' in a lot of the 'first world' countries and is wrong/shocking and C) The guy is a judge.

Look, we all know that what this guy did is wrong. We all know that there's worse out there. But overlooking this BECAUSE there's worse out there, is stupid.

And if this is legal in most Union states, then dude, all the parents who do this shit need to man up and actually act like adults, not fucktards.

Seriously: Anyone reading this forum who hits their children with belts.. You are offically a fucking idiot who should give your child to someone who knows how to treat little people.
Thing is, I'm not saying we should overlook it. I'm saying we don't need to be pouring all of our energies into bringing some kind of karmic justice down on a guy who can't legally be prosecuted at this point. He's not likely to be left in charge of anyone's kids from this point on anyway; if we're really trying to do some good here, we need to move onto the next abusive parent, and then once we've taken that to its conclusion, the abusive parent after that. Continually sending takeout to this guy's house isn't going to do any good.
The man was a judge. He should be thrown down, and every single case with abused/abusive children that he's presided over reopened. This is what happens when someone in a poistion of power is a fucking retard.
 

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For those people who are parents and choose not to beat their children, that's perfectly fine, glad you have a guide to perfect parenting. There is no real "right" way to be a parent, different methods work for different children. Some need to be beaten, others don't. But if you are a parent who does beat their children, or plan to become a parent who'll beat their children, keep it reasonable and keep it legal.
 

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ScreamingNinja said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
ScreamingNinja said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
ScreamingNinja said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
ScreamingNinja said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
ScreamingNinja said:
I'm a parent. And there's really no need to beat a child like this. To those who say 'OH THIS ISN'T SEVERLY BEATING!! THERE'S WORSE OUT THERE!' STFU and get out. Sure, nothing was broken. Sure, she wasn't thrown into anything, etc. She was hit, with a belt, so many times it's not funny. It's a beating, pure and simple. And it's still wrong.

Oh, she was stealing? So what? Ground them, do what that other guy up there said and take away her computer, give her lots of chores. Our eldest caused a lot of trouble, back chatting, fighting with her sister, the rest of it. She's grounded for two weeks, bed at 7pm, has to clean her room every day after school, has to do homework as soon as she's home, etc. She's behaving now, because guess what? It's boring.

You don't need to beat your child. You don't need to hurt them like this.

And if anyone else was beaten worse than this, then dudes: Your parents sucked at being parents. It's simple.

Also: You're right, a smack never hurt anyone. Are they needed? Not really. You're an adult. Use your head when it comes to punishing your child.
What I was saying was not to diminish the severity of the crime. It was not to let the hyperbolic reaction of the internet at large diminish the severity of the far, far more severe crimes that occur on a regular basis. I can almost guarantee you that right now, somewhere in the US a child is being given a beating that makes this one look like a time out. Where is the outrage for that level of child abuse? Why make an example of this one man, when what we really have is a systemic problem, which needs a lot more than one person going to jail seven years after the fact for anything to be done about it? That's the real issue here.

Edit: Also, ironically enough, I am both the guy who said they should have taken away her computer, and the guy who pointed out that there are much, much worse cases of abuse going on. You might want to pay more attention to usernames, or at least avatars.
Don't really care too much about who's who, tbh. And no, people ARE up in arms about that level of child abuse, whenever a case gets brought to light. The reason why people are angry about /This/ is because they can see a video of it taking place, and to make matters worse, then man is a judge, who, correct me if I'm wrong, is ment to be a paragon of Law And Justice.

So no, this subhuman deserves what you'd get for assaulting a child reguardless.

And if this is Legal in Texas, well, this makes me sad about the United States.
I guess what bothers me about the internet's reaction to the video (not the video itself, which is its own set of horrors) is just the whole "out of sight, out of mind" aspect. The fact is, when talking about abused children, what we're seeing in this video is relatively mild -- in fact, the physical abuse on display is probably even legal in most states, although the emotional abuse could still get Judge Adams in trouble. If a video of this level of abuse sets the internet off into a righteous fury, what is stopping them from mobilizing to truly do something about child abuse? They're upset more because this video reminded them that it happens than anything else -- like I said, much worse occurs on a daily basis, but they didn't get angry about it until this video was released. Out of sight, out of mind.
Cool story bro. Doesn't change that fact that this is wrong, for normal humans. Doesn't change that what he did is disgusting. I don't think anyone really has to point out that worse than this happens, and happens all the time. And I'm sure if you sit there and ask anyone 'Hey, do you think bouncing a kids head off the pavement for stealing some candy is cool?' I can promise you that most humans would be all 'Fuck no, what the hell!'

So yeah. Just seemed like you're pointing out something that doesn't really need to be pointed out, and kinda takes away from the whole 'This Judge is a douchebag who shouldn't spawn more overlords.'
The problem here is that "this judge," while clearly a douchebag, is actually representative of a good chunk of parents -- and I'm not talking about the ones who get in trouble for child abuse. Spanking your kids, even with a belt, is legal in most, if not all states in the union. It's not just that worse than this happens: it's that people are acting like this is the worst abuse they've ever heard of. It's not, and we really need to be going after the people who do worse. Going after this guy, and not those guys, is akin to having a public outrage over a mugger who left his one victim alive, while completely ignoring the serial killer next door, because his crime wasn't caught on video; again, out of sight, out of mind.
You've gotta start somewhere. And people do go after the other people who do the terrible child abusing, you seem to forget that. People don't just shrug their shoulders while some Dad is shanking his son because he ate all the cookies. That shit gets reported too. This is an outcry because A) You're right, it's on youtube, lots of people have seen it, B) This is still considering 'Brutal' in a lot of the 'first world' countries and is wrong/shocking and C) The guy is a judge.

Look, we all know that what this guy did is wrong. We all know that there's worse out there. But overlooking this BECAUSE there's worse out there, is stupid.

And if this is legal in most Union states, then dude, all the parents who do this shit need to man up and actually act like adults, not fucktards.

Seriously: Anyone reading this forum who hits their children with belts.. You are offically a fucking idiot who should give your child to someone who knows how to treat little people.
Thing is, I'm not saying we should overlook it. I'm saying we don't need to be pouring all of our energies into bringing some kind of karmic justice down on a guy who can't legally be prosecuted at this point. He's not likely to be left in charge of anyone's kids from this point on anyway; if we're really trying to do some good here, we need to move onto the next abusive parent, and then once we've taken that to its conclusion, the abusive parent after that. Continually sending takeout to this guy's house isn't going to do any good.
The man was a judge. He should be thrown down, and every single case with abused/abusive children that he's presided over reopened. This is what happens when someone in a poistion of power is a fucking retard.
I've got good news on that front: while the damage he did in office has already been done, most (if not all) state level judges in this country are elected to their position. All that needs to be done to get him off the bench is for the people of Texas to remember this long enough to vote him out in the next election -- which is coming up pretty darned soon.