Texas wants to secede from the Union?

[Goldbling]

Actually Texas can't secede from the Union anymore, our first constitution let us, but when one of our governors tried to pull some shit they made a secound one that didn't let us.
Now of course if we did secede, there would be a distict lack of Chuck Norris and ass kicking in america, no one wants that.

Nope. Even in the second one it lets us, as long as we have a noticeable cause that is.

 

[NeutralDrow]

If I'm not mistaken... I believe that Texas is the one state that has the legal right to secede, due to the fact that they actually rebelled against the old Mexican government to join the United States.

Of course, I may be hallucinating.

That is correct. We fought for our right to join the united states, and against popular belief, we never actually gave that right up

We can succeed anytime we want. Although I don't think that its a good idea. Rick Perry is a dumb ass anyways

Edit: and if we do succeed were taking Louisiana and Mexico

Actually, according to international law, Texas is considered part of the US's sovereign territory and has no legal right to secede (the only exceptions to this law I can think of are Kosovo and Bangladesh). And according to national law, not only did ascribing to the constitution of the US place Texas under the jurisdiction of the national government, but that particular aspect of the law was enforced very strongly in the mid-19th century. After all, South Carolina also fought for the right to be a part of the United States, and the government didn't put up with that from them, either.

 

[Dr Pussymagnet]

Well, I sure as hell wouldn't want that to happen, cause then I wouldn't have a place to live.

 

[Pimppeter2]

Lets fight at the Alamo

 

[Goldbling]

If I'm not mistaken... I believe that Texas is the one state that has the legal right to secede, due to the fact that they actually rebelled against the old Mexican government to join the United States.

Of course, I may be hallucinating.

That is correct. We fought for our right to join the united states, and against popular belief, we never actually gave that right up

We can succeed anytime we want. Although I don't think that its a good idea. Rick Perry is a dumb ass anyways

Edit: and if we do succeed were taking Louisiana and Mexico

Actually, according to international law, Texas is considered part of the US's sovereign territory and has no legal right to secede (the only exceptions to this law I can think of are Kosovo and Bangladesh). And according to national law, not only did ascribing to the constitution of the US place Texas under the jurisdiction of the national government, but that particular aspect of the law was enforced very strongly in the mid-19th century. After all, South Carolina also fought for the right to be a part of the United States, and the government didn't put up with that from them, either.

Yeah, my bad.

It says that in our STATE constitution but in the official submitted Constitution we have no such right

 

[Matronadena]

alot of the states threaten it time to time... though one state that I think has more of a right away to do so is Hawaii...they never wanted to be part of the U.S they just one day woke up and ooopps guess who's suddenly a state >.<

 

[Loiosh91]

Every place has its people who want to secede, heck I bet even Washington d.c. has some. I personally think the north east should secede as I am sick of us pulling the rest of Americas weight.

wow u really are an idiot

Texas can secede, because it used to be it's own country and is large enough to be divided into 7 states

we have been our own country before and can do it again

the Bush family is from up north, Illinois I think, they ARE NOT TEXAN, we do not claim them

since when has the northeast carried everybody else? you'd be fucked without us, don't act so high and mighty

im not saying Texas seceding from the Union is a good idea, but we're the only state that can pull it off

i could say more but i really don't care enough to go into detail, it's not worth arguing if my opponents don't understand what im talking about

 

[NeutralDrow]

alot of the states threaten it time to time... though one state that I think has more of a right away to do so is Hawaii...they never wanted to be part of the U.S they just one day woke up and ooopps guess who's suddenly a state >.<

Still, Hawaii's making pretty good as a US state right now, huh?

California could technically function as a viable nation-state, but I like to think we have fewer nutjobs who actually suggest such a thing (a thought that's probably totally, totally wrong).

 

[Mookie_Magnus]

Texas no longer has the right to secede... we gave that up when we joined the Confederate States of America, and lost the war. When the CSA lost the war, all the states had to write new State Constitutions... and Texas had their right to secede taken away.

As for Rick Perry... all we have to do is wait until the next election and he'll be gone.
If I'm 18 by that time, I'm voting for Kinky Friedman. Yes, his name really is Kinky.. It's probably been legally changed to that, or something.

 

[Matronadena]

alot of the states threaten it time to time... though one state that I think has more of a right away to do so is Hawaii...they never wanted to be part of the U.S they just one day woke up and ooopps guess who's suddenly a state >.<

Still, Hawaii's making pretty good as a US state right now, huh?

California could technically function as a viable nation-state, but I like to think we have fewer nutjobs who actually suggest such a thing (a thought that's probably totally, totally wrong).

yeah their not hurting too bad thanks to the tourists.... natives are alittle pissed off at the development going on.. but I think considering where they are they are safer at the moment being part of a major nation...be it the U.S, or Japan.. I can only imagine how many people would kill to make a land grab for it.

 

[Silver]

Okay, so why are people so against this? America is a far too big country already, especially for the inefficient form of government you have, it's a far too powerful country as well. Dividing it up a bit would make it both easier for people in the country to be heard, to be able to live as they wanted, and it would serve to calm down a huge portion of the world, since we wouldn't have to worry about America snapping anymore and taking out half the world with nuclear weapons.

Just let them leave if they want to, what's the big deal? If they want to stay in America, great (or not), if they want to leave, so what?

 

[SeleneRose]

I believe the so-what is that secession implies weakness on America's part
Also, the last time a serious secession occured, we had a civil war
..
I'd rather not have that happen

 

[kawligia]

First you have Palin making comments that Alaska is a sovereign government*, and now a week later we get this.

* Though the Palin comment was probably more her not knowing what the word sovereign meant than it was a call for rebellion

States DO have sovereignty. They were the original sovereigns. The states created the federal government, not the other way around. The federal government only has powers that the states collectively granted it under the Constitution. All other authority not given to the federal government remains with the states.

 

[NeutralDrow]

Okay, so why are people so against this? America is a far too big country already, especially for the inefficient form of government you have, it's a far too powerful country as well. Dividing it up a bit would make it both easier for people in the country to be heard, to be able to live as they wanted, and it would serve to calm down a huge portion of the world, since we wouldn't have to worry about America snapping anymore and taking out half the world with nuclear weapons.

Just let them leave if they want to, what's the big deal? If they want to stay in America, great (or not), if they want to leave, so what?

You want inefficient? Look up the Articles of Confederation, or the Confederate States of America. Splitting up would be an incredibly bad idea (no, we're not too powerful to be held in check).

And frankly, if the world is concerned about us having nukes, I'm surprised they aren't crapping their pants at the idea that China, India, and Pakistan, and the possibility of North Korea (trying) and Iran (maybe, maybe not) becoming so. Trust me, we need to pay more attention to personal non-proliferation, but we're probably the third least likely country to ever use nukes again (I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to France and the UK).

First you have Palin making comments that Alaska is a sovereign government*, and now a week later we get this.

* Though the Palin comment was probably more her not knowing what the word sovereign meant than it was a call for rebellion

States DO have sovereignty. They were the original sovereigns. The states created the federal government, not the other way around. The federal government only has powers that the states collectively granted it under the Constitution. All other authority not given to the federal government remains with the states.

Regardless of the ultimate source of power, the states have only limited sovereignty. They gave up complete sovereignty by agreeing to the constitution in the first place.

 

[Oldmanwillow]

First you have Palin making comments that Alaska is a sovereign government*, and now a week later we get this.

* Though the Palin comment was probably more her not knowing what the word sovereign meant than it was a call for rebellion

States DO have sovereignty. They were the original sovereigns. The states created the federal government, not the other way around. The federal government only has powers that
the states collectively granted it under the Constitution. All other authority not given to the federal government remains with the states.

The reasons why alaska wants to leave the union

1)the lower 48 always fucks us over when we want to develop our natural resources.
2) we are tired of the lower 48 saying they know whats best for Alaska when they dont have a clue
3) we have a libertarian mind set and the government has had too much power since Jimmy Carter and as gotten worse every prez since.(worse prez ever)
4) The US gets all of our natural resource when we could make more money by selling to china.
5) 4 would brother us so much if the US would let us have some facilities to refine our natural resource.

We will never get a chance to leave because we accepted too much federal money.

State have the best understanding on how to deal with states problems not a federal government. If a state feels like it will be in their best option to leave then they should be able too.

So if the people of texas want to leave they should be able too. but the situation appears to me that its their governor is just being dumb so this is pretty much a non issue.

 

[SeleneRose]

Alaska is surprisingly held down
because its natural beauty must be preserved and such!
Ignore its wellbeing otherwise

 

[zoozilla]

Texas all by itself?

Huh. It's happened before.

 

[Snotnarok]

Every place has its people who want to secede, heck I bet even Washington d.c. has some. I personally think the north east should secede as I am sick of us pulling the rest of Americas weight.

This made me spit my soda, very funny and fairly true. Let's secede and call ourselves Escapitauria.