If the smokers want to continue paying ridiculous amounts of money to slowly kill themselves, then I will not stand in their way.
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Smokers don't pay to kill themselves directly for those who say 'You can go pay $XXX.XX a year to kill yourself.' It is the same as saying 'You pay $XXX.XX a year to give yourself liver damage from alcohol or arthritis from joining a gym and others.' Just wanted to point that out and help you lot get off your high horse. Saying 'I'm not on my high horse just because I don't smoke / pay to kill myself' is the act of being on ones high horse.
The Government is not trying to stop people smoking, read the back of any cigarette pack for statistics and you'll see how many people die from cigarettes a year, now imagine how many didn't and are still buying them. Charges taxes and claiming it's an attempt to help people quit is just them trying to appear caring to the masses and generally it works.
The Government is not trying to stop people smoking, read the back of any cigarette pack for statistics and you'll see how many people die from cigarettes a year, now imagine how many didn't and are still buying them. Charges taxes and claiming it's an attempt to help people quit is just them trying to appear caring to the masses and generally it works.
Yes, but not of cigarettes.sirdanrhodes said:
I'd personally rather not go to public places where people are playing silly buggers whilst on their 10th cheap drink of the
All this is is an evolution of the 'extra tax drug'. With my parent's generation, about 90% of people ended up smoking because it was seen as the thing to do, whilst giving the government some more money.
It's the same with our generation except with drinking. Because I don't really drink (once every other month or so), people's general perception of me is that I'm weird or gay or retarded or something.
How very nice of you. Maybe you could aim that at the drinkers too, the people who choose to drive around in a car or fly on planes, seeing as you have just as much chance dying from one of these as you do from smoking.Ace of Spades said:
I love this new trendy anti-smoking fad; Shouting out at the smokers from inside the pub with a whiskey in your hand, go on tell them again how unhealthy it is and continue pretending alcohol isn't a drug....what's that? They can't hear you because you're pissed? Oh what a shame.
When I first read that cigarettes were $6 a pack where you were from, I immediately assumed you were from NJ since I live there and spend the same amount on a pack. It seems my assumptions were correct. The reason NJ prices are so high is that the government is trying to ban smoking in the state (i.e. you can't smoke in public buildings, or in Six Flags for that matter. god i hated enforcing that rule) but to get back on track, they are trying to tax the living hell out of them so people won't want to buy them. We see how well that is working [sarcasm]whoops1995 said:
^^ The other thing with increasing taxes is that the government are sulking because so many people buy duty free tobacco. No tax = much easier on the wallet.
So instead of the gov. lowering the price of cigs/tobacco at home so more people buy from them, they try to stop people buying as much duty free goods abroad and RAISE the home price.
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So instead of the gov. lowering the price of cigs/tobacco at home so more people buy from them, they try to stop people buying as much duty free goods abroad and RAISE the home price.
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That's why I drive about 15 min. away to PA to buy them for about 3-4 dollars cheaper most of the time.
Well, in the US, much of our healthcare system runs on money taken from tobacco companies. In fact, much of Obama's "wonderful" health care plan depends on money taken in from tobacco companies. I don't smoke and I don't like the smell of smoke, but I don't agree with heavily taxing an industry to support something the government shouldn't be involved in either. If knowing the danger of smoking, someone is willing to do it, then I say we should let them without imposing hefty fines or supporting them later with a universal health care system.
I've always wanted to see it too, but never had the time, though, the novel is really good and a quick read.Littaly said:
then again would you really want to be smoking a cigarette while riding kingdom ka. Though i think that smoking in pbulic places is very annoying. For my birthday one time I went to restaurant for dinner, the meal was completely ruined by the amount of people smoking and my clothes smelled for a week. I think that smokers shouldn't have to smoke in a restaurant, they can just smoke after or before. If they really badly had the urge to smoke i don't see the problem in stepping outside. I see it as a common courtesy.njautobody said:
I am a smoker and I actually agree with you. Seeing as second-hand smoke is harmful, I like to avoid situations where I am exposing someone else to harm just because I feel the urge for a fix. So I'm with you there. I can wait till after dinner. : )whoops1995 said:
As for the escalating prices for cigarettes, I would suggest people pick up the habit of rolling your own. Saves you a bundle, and avoids some of the more dubious chemicals in pre-rolled packs. : 3
when you sya north breaking away from the south I really hope your not talking about the U.S. because we tried dividing the states back in the 1860's and we learned the hadr way that a civil war is pretty much like shooting ourselves in the foot.ohellynot said:
You're presuming a bit much here. I'm not telling people they shouldn't smoke, or drink or any of that. People can do whatever they want. I also don't recall saying anything about alcohol not being a drug. I just hold up a metaphorical sign "Smoke/Drink/Drive/Fly at own risk".DannyDamage said:
Cigarette prices are so exuberant do to their addictive nature and because the Government collects a massive amount of tax from cigarette sales. I believe the last estimate was within the 70% range. The attempts to deter people from smoking through commercials and other forms of media are purely an excuse so they may claim they have tried to wane people from smoking when in actuality they want the complete opposite.
My stance on smoking is do so if you so desire and be done with it. The sudden serge of "no smoking" laws especially in bars and restaurants has become ridiculous. Bars relied heavily on those sales and restaurants had a proper section for smoking and non smoking; granted not all however if that is the case then do not dine at the aforementioned establishment. The newest law they are attempting to pass is no smoking in your vehicle with children in said vehicle.
My stance on smoking is do so if you so desire and be done with it. The sudden serge of "no smoking" laws especially in bars and restaurants has become ridiculous. Bars relied heavily on those sales and restaurants had a proper section for smoking and non smoking; granted not all however if that is the case then do not dine at the aforementioned establishment. The newest law they are attempting to pass is no smoking in your vehicle with children in said vehicle.