Thanks, Xbox, for breaking my Red Dead Redemption.

[Sonic Doctor]

Well my launch xbox never did anything like that. Besides you really should of upgraded a long time ago especially if you haev an xbox. You need to install games on your hard drive to prevent this sorta thing. It sucks and it is MS's fault but you bought the console. You as a consumer haev a right not to buy another one and that is the only thing MS will understand.

I can tell you right now that installing a game onto the hard drive isn't going to solve the scratched disc problem. The system will still need to read from the disc occasionally. That is obvious, because even with a game installed on the system, you still can't play it without the disc in.

Case in point, a friend of mine installed his Halo 3 multiplayer disc onto the hard drive. Somebody knocked his 360 over during a get together and the system burnt a line into the disc, and of course he now can't play Halo 3 multiplayer, because he needs a new disc.

Installing onto the system just puts some of the information needed for playing a game into the system, but not the core game running information.

 

[Robert2812]

Yep, it happened. My Xbox 360 literally scratched my Red Dead until it was unplayable. I played in the basement, sat on the couch, and played it. But after awhile those real loud noises which are the signs of the xbox F'ing my disc eventually got worse. I had paid $60 for it, and got Undead Nightmare for $10. All to see it scratched to death. Thanks, Microsoft, you're just...wonderful!


NOTE: Couldn't install to hard drive due to only having 10 GB harddrive.

Or you could buy the DLC disc, I had the same problem but the Undead Nightmare disc is more resilient

 

[Rusty Bucket]

Well my launch xbox never did anything like that. Besides you really should of upgraded a long time ago especially if you haev an xbox. You need to install games on your hard drive to prevent this sorta thing. It sucks and it is MS's fault but you bought the console. You as a consumer haev a right not to buy another one and that is the only thing MS will understand.

I can tell you right now that installing a game onto the hard drive isn't going to solve the scratched disc problem. The system will still need to read from the disc occasionally. That is obvious, because even with a game installed on the system, you still can't play it without the disc in.

Case in point, a friend of mine installed his Halo 3 multiplayer disc onto the hard drive. Somebody knocked his 360 over during a get together and the system burnt a line into the disc, and of course he now can't play Halo 3 multiplayer, because he needs a new disc.

Installing onto the system just puts some of the information needed for playing a game into the system, but not the core game running information.

The disk will only spin when you start the game up, just to check you've actually got it. After that, it shouldn't do it at all.

 

[Fawcks]

Must resist urge... to say.... fanboy... stuff about... playstation....

Resisting.... Failing...!! Must resist... new urge.... to kill!!

Actually, my old PS2 made several of my disks unplayable this same way.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

I can tell you right now that installing a game onto the hard drive isn't going to solve the scratched disc problem. The system will still need to read from the disc occasionally. That is obvious, because even with a game installed on the system, you still can't play it without the disc in.

Case in point, a friend of mine installed his Halo 3 multiplayer disc onto the hard drive. Somebody knocked his 360 over during a get together and the system burnt a line into the disc, and of course he now can't play Halo 3 multiplayer, because he needs a new disc.

Installing onto the system just puts some of the information needed for playing a game into the system, but not the core game running information.

The disk will only spin when you start the game up, just to check you've actually got it. After that, it shouldn't do it at all.

I've heard the disc in mine spin long after start up of a game, and this is with games I ripped onto the system. I have heard the same with other people's 360's.

I should have been clear with my story. The friend's disc was burnt when we had already been playing some custom multiplayer games for sometime. It was just about done loading up the next custom map that we were about to play, when the knock over and scratching happened.

Other than that, I have Fable 3 ripped to my system and I still hear the disc occasionally when it is loading an area. I actually can't tell the difference in loading time with it ripped and not ripped. It makes me wonder why I don't take it off my hard drive.

 

[Rusty Bucket]

I can tell you right now that installing a game onto the hard drive isn't going to solve the scratched disc problem. The system will still need to read from the disc occasionally. That is obvious, because even with a game installed on the system, you still can't play it without the disc in.

Case in point, a friend of mine installed his Halo 3 multiplayer disc onto the hard drive. Somebody knocked his 360 over during a get together and the system burnt a line into the disc, and of course he now can't play Halo 3 multiplayer, because he needs a new disc.

Installing onto the system just puts some of the information needed for playing a game into the system, but not the core game running information.

The disk will only spin when you start the game up, just to check you've actually got it. After that, it shouldn't do it at all.

I've heard the disc in mine spin long after start up of a game, and this is with games I ripped onto the system. I have heard the same with other people's 360's.

I should have been clear with my story. The friend's disc was burnt when we had already been playing some custom multiplayer games for sometime. It was just about done loading up the next custom map that we were about to play, when the knock over and scratching happened.

Other than that, I have Fable 3 ripped to my system and I still hear the disc occasionally when it is loading an area. I actually can't tell the difference in loading time with it ripped and not ripped. It makes me wonder why I don't take it off my hard drive.

I've had the exact opposite experience. I never play a game without installing it first. Never once heard the disc spin after start up, the only noise coming out of it is the fans, which are still pretty damn loud.

 

[Arawn]

Sorry to say this (not that sorry), but Xbox can/will scratch your disc in the vertical and horizontal position. 9:10 I've seen scratched disc in the while vert, and then when laying flat. It's just odd the system does this so easily and this isn't restricted to the older models. Friends with the "remodeled" units are getting scratches as well. And for some reason everyone still loves 360. I owned a Xbox, but play most my games on PC now. I got a PS3 long ago that's just barely starting to show some problems. I say go with the option A, a high percentage of 360 games are on PC anyway. Won't miss much. If you really want a console get PS3 or new 360. Now a days there are getting to be fewer and fewer system exclusives.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

I've had the exact opposite experience. I never play a game without installing it first. Never once heard the disc spin after start up, the only noise coming out of it is the fans, which are still pretty damn loud.

Oh I can hear the fans of course, but then there is the clickity wuuuurrring sound of a disc being read coming from the disc area.

Maybe my friends and I all got weirdly made 360's. It can't be the type though, I have an Elite and they have Arcades.

 

[SpaceGhost2K]

Yep, it happened. My Xbox 360 literally scratched my Red Dead until it was unplayable. I played in the basement, sat on the couch, and played it. But after awhile those real loud noises which are the signs of the xbox F'ing my disc eventually got worse. I had paid $60 for it, and got Undead Nightmare for $10. All to see it scratched to death. Thanks, Microsoft, you're just...wonderful!


NOTE: Couldn't install to hard drive due to only having 10 GB harddrive.

They don't make a 10 GB HDD.

If there were real loud noises "after a while", then it's your fault because you should have stopped playing it when you knew there was a problem, not after it scratched your disc.

In unrelated news, I spent $2 on 1/4" rubber feet, and put them on my Xbox, which I keep horizontal. They absorb any little motion that might occur from bumping the shelf ,plus they add some additional clearance for increased ventilation.

 

[Grygor]

Weird. That doesn't seem to happen unless you move the 360 while it's on and a disk is in.

I have an old '07 model. Fuck. My SNES still works completely fine, and it's been what? 1990? 1991? Yet, a $300 Xbox 360 still manages to bumfuck your disc, even if you keep it completely still. (Which I always did)

To be fair though, the SNES (and other cartridge-based systems) has very few moving parts, and once the system is on, none of those parts actually needs to be working. And none of those moving parts requires fine, precision-controlled movement to do it's job.

Disc-based systems, on the other hand, have many moving parts that must be controlled with a high degree of precision in order for the system to work properly, with potentially bad things happening when they are not - such as read errors and scratched media. (To say nothing of the many other design elements that can fail on modern consoles that simply were not an issue with older consoles, such as detaching heat sinks.)

Remember after all that the switch from cartridges to optical discs was made on grounds of capacity and cost, not durability or speed.

 

[darksakul]

Yep, it happened. My Xbox 360 literally scratched my Red Dead until it was unplayable.
NOTE: Couldn't install to hard drive due to only having 10 GB harddrive.

I am hearing that is the biggest issue the Non-slim Xbox 360 is having, 2nd to the Imfamous RROD.

 

[Snotnarok]

Email Microsoft with a non rage filled email and they might take care of it.

THQ offered to take care of Darksiders which was damaged by the fucking eco box when I messaged them.

 

[mikeybuthge]

Put on your duster, pull out your revolver, and pay Microsoft a visit on horseback

 

[Geekosaurus]

I'm really glad that complaining to us on here has fixed all your problems. Thanks, bro.

 

[Sn1P3r M98]

Same happened to me! Luckily, good ol' Target gave me a new one

 

[BENZOOKA]

I don't understand how that's even possible.

Never mind. Carry on.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Only reasons i can think of are that you either moved the xbox while the game was being played, or your xbox is on a slant for some ridiculous reason. Apart from that, no clue.

Nope, I have the TV in a TV wardrobe (go figure) and the Xbox in the shelf under it. Sideways, for reduced vibration. This is a perfectly good reason to either A) FINALLY upgrade my PC and actually enjoy or B) Buy a PS3. OR secret answer C) Finally beat Okami on the Wii. F@#%!

I'd go with Option B).

Option A) will have to be repeated every three years due to PC gaming upgrade needs.
Option B) will be fun until you either beat the game, or realize that Okami is really Legend Of Zelda with a wolf all the wat through. Whatever comes first.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Well my launch xbox never did anything like that. Besides you really should of upgraded a long time ago especially if you haev an xbox. You need to install games on your hard drive to prevent this sorta thing. It sucks and it is MS's fault but you bought the console. You as a consumer haev a right not to buy another one and that is the only thing MS will understand.

I can tell you right now that installing a game onto the hard drive isn't going to solve the scratched disc problem. The system will still need to read from the disc occasionally. That is obvious, because even with a game installed on the system, you still can't play it without the disc in.

Case in point, a friend of mine installed his Halo 3 multiplayer disc onto the hard drive. Somebody knocked his 360 over during a get together and the system burnt a line into the disc, and of course he now can't play Halo 3 multiplayer, because he needs a new disc.

Installing onto the system just puts some of the information needed for playing a game into the system, but not the core game running information.

No if you install the game in the first place adn don't drop the damn console this won't happen. You completely missed the point of what I was saying. I was saying he should of been installing games from the get go. I highlighted knocked for a reason. This is something you have to live with with a 360. It contains no locking mechanism. So that is you don't moved the console about a different axis to which the game rotates. If you don't like that or your friend doesn't they shouldn't off gotten a 360 in the first place. I don't mean to sound bad but it is the only thing companies understand you need to talk with your money. If MS build a console with a glaring flaw with a simple solution yet you buy it anyway knowing there is no proper locking mechanism you are accepting that this will happen whether you were aware of it or not.

So I was not saying install the game from this point onward to avoid problem I was saying install in the first place don't move console while playing or g et a different console those are your options. Yes accidents happen but regardless it is your stuff it should really be in a place where it won't get knocked over or with the smallest chance of being knocked over.