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A Skynet Beach resort would explain why Terminators look like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Kristanna Loken. So they can wear tight swimsuits and serve drinks. Robert Patrick can be the head waiter, and Summer Glau can be a Yoga Instructor. Hang on. I have an idea for a Sitcom...
Oh and that Superman story is too awful for even an "Elseworlds" mini-series. Not that I'm saying Elseworlds series are awful (I'd love a Red Son movie, or animated DVD), but to bastardise the canon at that level is blasphemy.
Oh and that Superman story is too awful for even an "Elseworlds" mini-series. Not that I'm saying Elseworlds series are awful (I'd love a Red Son movie, or animated DVD), but to bastardise the canon at that level is blasphemy.
Is it just me or does that synopsis for the Superman movie sound like the worst thing ever conceived of by man? I don't even like Superman as a hero and I think it sounds crap beyond words.
I don't particularly like the 'twist' for Terminator either. Terminator 1+2 were very good movies that should not have been cheapened by the events of 3, the TV series (whcih I still liked) and such a crappy 'twist'. (I haven't seen the fourth movie, my heart was too broken by the third.) We do not need another deconstruction of the classic hero just because writers are too bad to write the old stories well. John Connor was a hero, and Terminator 1 and 2 established that very well thank you very much.
I like the Spider Man idea though, that would have brilliant for the final confrontation to finally see him arrive and just go 'yeah, it's Spider-Man!'
I don't particularly like the 'twist' for Terminator either. Terminator 1+2 were very good movies that should not have been cheapened by the events of 3, the TV series (whcih I still liked) and such a crappy 'twist'. (I haven't seen the fourth movie, my heart was too broken by the third.) We do not need another deconstruction of the classic hero just because writers are too bad to write the old stories well. John Connor was a hero, and Terminator 1 and 2 established that very well thank you very much.
I like the Spider Man idea though, that would have brilliant for the final confrontation to finally see him arrive and just go 'yeah, it's Spider-Man!'
I'm a modest fan of Terminator and Superman but had those been the movies delivered, I would have become a fanboy troll and would never have admitted the movies existed. Wow. Maybe it is a good thing some scripts get leaked occasionally.
See that would have saved Twilight from being one of the most hated series on the internet. Action minimizing romance with Vampires against the world. It could almost be turned into a superpowered version of the Borne trilogy...
Heck, if they did it right, I would see those movies.
That would be incredible. Sure the complaining about the sparkly vampire thing would still be around but at least their bonding could happen in the best circumstance (IE: We can't take too long to love each other because the FBI are right behind us). By having the constant action, the movie wouldn't just be about the romance. They could have even had them team up to destroy a helicopter or something.katsumoto03 said:
See that would have saved Twilight from being one of the most hated series on the internet. Action minimizing romance with Vampires against the world. It could almost be turned into a superpowered version of the Borne trilogy...
Heck, if they did it right, I would see those movies.
To be honest the twist for the latest terminator seems more interesting that what the ended up making, which frankly felt unsatisfying and overall unimpressive compared to the first 2
I think I would have loved the Terminator one, it unexpected and might have helped a series that hasn't been great since number 2.
Also that Superman one isn't half bad in my opinion but why have it be a Superman movie it seems like it would be easier to just start a new franchise up with that concept, All they would have to do is rework the Superman elements which by the summary seem very limited to begin with.
thats also what they should have done with the upcoming "adaptation" of the manga Priest, which I'm told has nothing to do with the source manga.
Also that Superman one isn't half bad in my opinion but why have it be a Superman movie it seems like it would be easier to just start a new franchise up with that concept, All they would have to do is rework the Superman elements which by the summary seem very limited to begin with.
thats also what they should have done with the upcoming "adaptation" of the manga Priest, which I'm told has nothing to do with the source manga.
I'll probably take some flak for this but that revised Terminator script you mentioned didn't sound too bad actually. I think also, that the Marcus character in the last movie was really the only likeable character too. The movie itself in it's current format was horrible, several times I found myself questioning what was going on (like when the terminators located the survivors living close to the city.. I mean come on.. don't these guys post scouts?).
I smelled touches of the Matrix influence in both the Terminator and Superman alternative directions. The whole 4400 thing for Terminator wouldn't have made much sense to me... why would they need to keep people around for? A sequel? Any robot will tell you that a planet run entirely by robots with no people would be a better place. I could understand if they were using the people for the purpose of creating more believable terminators. However, at some point, innovation would take a back seat to efficiency and it would make more sense to overrun the enemy with sheer numbers than by implanting spies.
As for Superman... holy fucking asscrackers did that sound terribly confusing. An emo kid afraid of his powers, being chased by an interplanetary group of killers, and also being pursued by an alien FBI agent? Were they going to make him green too? How about we throw some ninjas into that shitstorm to help clear up some confusion? I am not against the idea of a reboot of something that is in dire need of it. Superman didn't really fall into that category. The old movies were fine, and we didn't really need them brought up to date, especially with the turd they delivered in the final cut. Maybe we'll luck out with the new reboot of Spiderman and it'll have some crazy unbelievable twist in it that will have Peter Parker die from the spider bite before the end of the movie.
As for Superman... holy fucking asscrackers did that sound terribly confusing. An emo kid afraid of his powers, being chased by an interplanetary group of killers, and also being pursued by an alien FBI agent? Were they going to make him green too? How about we throw some ninjas into that shitstorm to help clear up some confusion? I am not against the idea of a reboot of something that is in dire need of it. Superman didn't really fall into that category. The old movies were fine, and we didn't really need them brought up to date, especially with the turd they delivered in the final cut. Maybe we'll luck out with the new reboot of Spiderman and it'll have some crazy unbelievable twist in it that will have Peter Parker die from the spider bite before the end of the movie.
That Superman plot sounded fucking awesome, As long as it had a director who realized exactly how ridiculous the entire the entire setup is. But of course, I actually like All-Stars Batman and Robin. Desecrating a long, storied character beloved by millions for the sake of a cheap laugh doesn't bother me at all.
In fairness to the screenwriters, I somewhat "simplified" the rationale in the article.GodKlown said:
The broader "hook" was that Skynet (which, you'll recall from Terminator 1 & 2, was originally an artificially-intelligent computer designed to kick-in and automate military installations in the event of catastrophic war) had "ensure survival of the human race" as it's prime directive.
"Salvation's" ultimately-aborted twist was that, because Skynet "knew" it had a bunch of technically-still-human cyborgs (i.e. other "body donors like Marcus) "on ice" thanks to Cyberdyne aquiring the research firm Marcus donated his body to, it reasoned that the most logical and efficient means of carrying out said directive was to preserve and nurture THOSE healthy, extra-durable specimens while simultaneously wiping out the inferior, war-decimated resistance population and letting the world ecosystem "reboot" itself to be repopulated by Skynet's "pet" humans later.
Granted, this STILL would've resulted in the movie climaxing with a battle between humans and Terminators in a Potemkin Village version of an upscale Southern California gated suburb, but at least it would've made some kind of "ironic" logical sense
I was shocked at just how bad it was.qbanknight said:
I'm usually open minded about convoluted stories, but that was almost painful.
I like the Spider-Man one. They could have had him in the Scarlet Spidey suit for a bit, and the Bombtastic Bag-Man suit for a bit...Would have been really cool, if you ask me.
I actually found the script online. It's even worse to read it, but I couldn't stop. It was like watching a car crash happen in slow motiontheultimateend said:
On the Superman movie. Don't get me wrong, that sounds like a great story and it would be an awesome movie...if it wasn't about Superman. There is one thing you can't really do to a cherished icon, change the mythology. You can flip around some minor details, alter a few powers, change the timing of certain events, but the basic mythology, the origin story, the character's personality, those things have to shine through. They could have crafted a WHOLE new super hero with that story and I bet it would have been GREAT, but the moment they try to put Superman's name on it it becomes crap. I'm not saying the movie would be technically bad just because you decide to call it Superman, but EVERYONE who likes Superman (there are a lot of us) will hate it, which isn't a good thing since we'd be the ones most likely to go see it.
You forgot to mention that Fransic Ford Copola was almost not the dirrector of The Godfather part 1, after the studio saw how dark they were making the scenes