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Finishing uni, moving away from loads of friends and having to go out into the real world and get a job but also not being able to because I'm doing a teacher training course but also might not be able to do that because I can't get the required three fucking days of work experience. Wow, that sentence had almost no punctuation
Heh, I was about to become aghast at that myself (I make a point of never commenting on someone's punctuation and spelling, it's colossally rude), especially when you mentioned training to be a teacher.
Hey, you know it didn't have the polish it otherwise would have so why worry? lol

A friend is in a similar situation looking for teaching hours.
Not fun to say the least!
Best of luck out there, man.
I'm training to be an English teacher as well but don't worry, my grammar is the king of all grammar! Also nice avatar, my man, I've read that book like twelve times. You have good taste!
I could say the exact same about your avatar! Been getting into Green Lantern for the past year now, and it's brilliant. One of the finest comics I've read, particularly what Geoff Johns has been doing.
The big damn space opera of it all, the cosmic stakes, ancient alien technology- it has it all.
Then there's the original Han Solo- Hal Jordan! You should check out The Big Picture about Green Lantern if you haven't already.

Someone with excellent taste in hero books like yourself is bound to make a kick ass English teacher!
Are you me? You're me, aren't you? I've also been getting into Green Lantern for the past year and oh-my-fucking-wow! The stories Geoff Johns has been writing since '04 are the biggest and most epic (in scale, content, art, pacing, beauty) DC have ever done. Blackest Night was fantastic and Blackest Night: Green Lantern was even better. Last night I ordered the trade of Brightest Day Vol. 1 and can't wait to get my hands on it!
I watched the big picture yesterday and loved it. I've watched his 'Continanity' episode like five times, I love his issues surrounding comic books and I'd loved to do my own Escapist show on them, it'd be so much fun.
I am a little worried that, when I'm a teacher, I'll just waffle on about how the work of Henry James pales in comparison to Alan Moore and Grant Morrison...
Ooh! Have you read 52? Definitely the best thing DC have ever written. I've read the whole thing several times, it is truly mind-blowing
Good lord, that's creepy... I don't think I'm you, but you may just be me :p lol
But British, whereas I'm Irish. Mirror worlds! :O

52 is one of the finest things I've ever read- I considerate part of literature as a whole, not just confined to the comicbook genre.
The whole 52 saga is a shining example of what can be achieved in the medium using the supposedly tired super hero angles.
I'm a Batman fanatic, but I'd proudly wear one of the Green Rings any day!
Johns is a genius. I'd always heard about the Green Lantern, but I first encountered Kyle Raynor, then John Stewart in the Justice League cartoons (if you can call what Bruce Timm et al do merely cartoons).

I borrowed 52 off a mate of mine, but I think I'll start hunting down the volumes myself.
Haven't had a chance to read of Blackest Night or Blackest Night: GL yet, but I'm waiting so I can buy it rather than borrow it!
I've heard it's astonishing. My buddy may have ruined a slight part of War of The Green Lanterns for me, but that's also on the list!

So much to read... so little time!
I think that it's your duty to introduce kids to writers like that when they come of age! lol
Agreed, it's so hard to convince non-comic book readers that there are comic series' out there which are so much more well-written than standard works of literature. 52 is better than all of the Dan Brown novels, this is a fact.
Blackest Night is interesting because it focuses on other members of the JLA for the first half (mainly Barry Allen and The Atom) and then Hal joins in during the second half. Blackest Night: GL explains what he was up to during the first half. They go together very well, make sure you pick up both!
I'm a huge Batman-lover as well, his books were the first I got into and The Long Halloween will forever be my joint favourite comic book alongside Watchmen. Have you read the current Batman & Robin story by Morrison? It is absolutely fantastic, especially with the art by Frank Quitely in Batman Reborn. It's just... wow!
 

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Finishing uni, moving away from loads of friends and having to go out into the real world and get a job but also not being able to because I'm doing a teacher training course but also might not be able to do that because I can't get the required three fucking days of work experience. Wow, that sentence had almost no punctuation
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Good lord, that's creepy... I don't think I'm you, but you may just be me :p lol
But British, whereas I'm Irish. Mirror worlds! :O

52 is one of the finest things I've ever read- I considerate part of literature as a whole, not just confined to the comicbook genre.
The whole 52 saga is a shining example of what can be achieved in the medium using the supposedly tired super hero angles.
I'm a Batman fanatic, but I'd proudly wear one of the Green Rings any day!
Johns is a genius. I'd always heard about the Green Lantern, but I first encountered Kyle Raynor, then John Stewart in the Justice League cartoons (if you can call what Bruce Timm et al do merely cartoons).

I borrowed 52 off a mate of mine, but I think I'll start hunting down the volumes myself.
Haven't had a chance to read of Blackest Night or Blackest Night: GL yet, but I'm waiting so I can buy it rather than borrow it!
I've heard it's astonishing. My buddy may have ruined a slight part of War of The Green Lanterns for me, but that's also on the list!

So much to read... so little time!
I think that it's your duty to introduce kids to writers like that when they come of age! lol
Agreed, it's so hard to convince non-comic book readers that there are comic series' out there which are so much more well-written than standard works of literature. 52 is better than all of the Dan Brown novels, this is a fact.
Blackest Night is interesting because it focuses on other members of the JLA for the first half (mainly Barry Allen and The Atom) and then Hal joins in during the second half. Blackest Night: GL explains what he was up to during the first half. They go together very well, make sure you pick up both!
I'm a huge Batman-lover as well, his books were the first I got into and The Long Halloween will forever be my joint favourite comic book alongside Watchmen. Have you read the current Batman & Robin story by Morrison? It is absolutely fantastic, especially with the art by Frank Quitely in Batman Reborn. It's just... wow!
I know, it's such an uphill battle trying to get people to realise that yes, it's got superheroes and stuff, but it's more than capable of having mature themes and artwork that evokes far more than men in spandex!
I'd heard that the gaps (if you can call them that) in BL are explained in Blackest Night: Green Lantern- it seems DC like making us hunt around and buy every damn book in the shop!
Pain in the arse trying to do that with my comic shop in Cork, unfortunately!
I can't wait to get round to picking it up,though.

Heh, don't get me started on Dan Brown! He writes a good thriller, a good page turner, I'll admit. Little else than chewing gum for the mind, with pretensions at serious scholarship.
Being a history graduate, that stuff makes my blood boil...

My God, the Long Halloween. Astonishing, that's all I can say. I love how so much of the Falcone family's dialogue is lifted more or less straight from the Godfather. Jeph Loeb's finest- I have it right next to its follow up Dark Victory. Worthy, if not quite ground breaking.
I've a sort of complicated relationship with Grant Morrison's take on Batman. I hated the idea of killing him, then bringing in all these science fiction/meta fiction takes in The Return of Bruce Wayne seemed a little insane. But that's just me- I loved what he did with the Joker,though. Batman RIP is a dark, twisted little book, but it's brilliant.

I'm sort of torn about Batman Inc. I didn't like the fact that Dick Grayson was Batman (though to be fair, it's been done really well) probably because I couldn't get it out of my head that it wasn't really Batman. It was Dick wearing the costume.. I also can't stand Damien, although I realise that it's never good to leave characters and stories to remain static or stale.
What I've seen of Dick as Batman, I've actually quite liked. It's just not the same as having Bruce under the cowl!

What do you make of all this rebooting that DC is going to do in September?
 

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I know, it's such an uphill battle trying to get people to realise that yes, it's got superheroes and stuff, but it's more than capable of having mature themes and artwork that evokes far more than men in spandex!
I'd heard that the gaps (if you can call them that) in BL are explained in Blackest Night: Green Lantern- it seems DC like making us hunt around and buy every damn book in the shop!
Pain in the arse trying to do that with my comic shop in Cork, unfortunately!
I can't wait to get round to picking it up,though.

Heh, don't get me started on Dan Brown! He writes a good thriller, a good page turner, I'll admit. Little else than chewing gum for the mind, with pretensions at serious scholarship.
Being a history graduate, that stuff makes my blood boil...

My God, the Long Halloween. Astonishing, that's all I can say. I love how so much of the Falcone family's dialogue is lifted more or less straight from the Godfather. Jeph Loeb's finest- I have it right next to its follow up Dark Victory. Worthy, if not quite ground breaking.
I've a sort of complicated relationship with Grant Morrison's take on Batman. I hated the idea of killing him, then bringing in all these science fiction/meta fiction takes in The Return of Bruce Wayne seemed a little insane. But that's just me- I loved what he did with the Joker,though. Batman RIP is a dark, twisted little book, but it's brilliant.

I'm sort of torn about Batman Inc. I didn't like the fact that Dick Grayson was Batman (though to be fair, it's been done really well) probably because I couldn't get it out of my head that it wasn't really Batman. It was Dick wearing the costume.. I also can't stand Damien, although I realise that it's never good to leave characters and stories to remain static or stale.
What I've seen of Dick as Batman, I've actually quite liked. It's just not the same as having Bruce under the cowl!

What do you make of all this rebooting that DC is going to do in September?
Bringing out loads of tie-ins to big events like Blackest Night can be annoying but if it was all brought out in one trade, it'd be like 1000 pages thick!
The reason I love Dick as Batman is that it's done what it was supposed to, it brought a new take on Batman. I've always been a big fan of Dick Grayson and Tim Drake but it's so difficult to keep Batman (Bruce) interesting because he's so dark, so mysterious and so... blank. Having a Batman who shows emotions and sarcasm and his relationship with Damian... it's all fantastic and really refreshing. In fact, I like it so much that I would've been fine with keeping Bruce dead!
I personally thought that The Return Of Bruce Wayne was a total mess! Each chapter wasn't fleshed out enough and he never becomes a bad-ass pirate like the promotional art led us to believe. The final chapter at the end of time made absolutely no sense to me at all. I've read it twice and I still have no idea who those librarian robots were and why the end of time was dying etc. I think that book actually stole some of my I.Q. points...
At first I was furious at the idea of a reboot but it is mostly being written and controlled by Johns and that man is a literary genius so it couldn't be in better hands. Also, it's not a straight-up reboot, it's an event which follows the Flash stoyline 'Flashpoint' so it is all part of the ongoing canon. I'm still sceptical but I honestly think it has the potential to be absolutely brilliant! What are your thoughts on it?
 

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Bringing out loads of tie-ins to big events like Blackest Night can be annoying but if it was all brought out in one trade, it'd be like 1000 pages thick!
The reason I love Dick as Batman is that it's done what it was supposed to, it brought a new take on Batman. I've always been a big fan of Dick Grayson and Tim Drake but it's so difficult to keep Batman (Bruce) interesting because he's so dark, so mysterious and so... blank. Having a Batman who shows emotions and sarcasm and his relationship with Damian... it's all fantastic and really refreshing. In fact, I like it so much that I would've been fine with keeping Bruce dead!
I personally thought that The Return Of Bruce Wayne was a total mess! Each chapter wasn't fleshed out enough and he never becomes a bad-ass pirate like the promotional art led us to believe. The final chapter at the end of time made absolutely no sense to me at all. I've read it twice and I still have no idea who those librarian robots were and why the end of time was dying etc. I think that book actually stole some of my I.Q. points...
At first I was furious at the idea of a reboot but it is mostly being written and controlled by Johns and that man is a literary genius so it couldn't be in better hands. Also, it's not a straight-up reboot, it's an event which follows the Flash stoyline 'Flashpoint' so it is all part of the ongoing canon. I'm still sceptical but I honestly think it has the potential to be absolutely brilliant! What are your thoughts on it?
Wow. We have hijacked the shit out of this thread...
Maybe we should start giving out about something.

But first!
That's actually an excellent point. I think that Dick and Tim bring a humour and are well fleshed out characters in their own right. I still haven't forgiven Damien for treating Tim the way he did, but that's my own personal gripe. I want to pick up the trade of Batman and Robin for the scene where Joker gets whaled on by Damien with a crowbar... Sickly, weirdly hilarious. Although, granted, Jason Todd got there first.

Personally, I think that Bruce is the one true Batman for a reason- the darkness still clings to him in ways it doesn't to Dick and Tim, which I think makes him somewhat dour as Bruce Wayne, but at the same time, the most effective Batman.
Actually, have you ever read Kevin Smith's Cacophony or the Widening Gyre? Some incredible story telling, and an interesting peek into Bruce Wayne's mind. Approaches the theme of succession really well. Love when non canon stuff like that works so well.

I think Return of Bruce Wayne had a lot of potential, even if it wasn't fully realised. It made more sense when read with Final Crisis, which also wasn't great. Not the worst, but it was no 52! I think the main problem was that it wasn't really explaining anything about the wider events, just what and where Batman was. Bugs me when the main story is missing things that other books are explaining, all to sell more copies.
The art was all over the place,though. The cool pirate thing was a huge let down, but as bad as the cowboy one. Western style Batman looked great, but that was about the only that did in that comic. Where did he get the clothes? The horse? Who made the batarangs?
God, the colours were awful as well. It started picking up in the last two issues, I thought.
I didn't even want to know what the hell Morrison was taking when he came up with those library guys! Deus Ex Machina taken to a new level, I guess!

I've missed Flashpoint so far, but seeing as how it's Johns again, I have no doubt I'll be enjoying it soon.
I'm not too adverse to the 'reboot', if we can even call it that, but I'm only happy to accept it because it Geoff Johns and Jim Lee is involved as well.
 

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Wow. We have hijacked the shit out of this thread...
Maybe we should start giving out about something.

But first!
That's actually an excellent point. I think that Dick and Tim bring a humour and are well fleshed out characters in their own right. I still haven't forgiven Damien for treating Tim the way he did, but that's my own personal gripe. I want to pick up the trade of Batman and Robin for the scene where Joker gets whaled on by Damien with a crowbar... Sickly, weirdly hilarious. Although, granted, Jason Todd got there first.

Personally, I think that Bruce is the one true Batman for a reason- the darkness still clings to him in ways it doesn't to Dick and Tim, which I think makes him somewhat dour as Bruce Wayne, but at the same time, the most effective Batman.
Actually, have you ever read Kevin Smith's Cacophony or the Widening Gyre? Some incredible story telling, and an interesting peek into Bruce Wayne's mind. Approaches the theme of succession really well. Love when non canon stuff like that works so well.

I think Return of Bruce Wayne had a lot of potential, even if it wasn't fully realised. It made more sense when read with Final Crisis, which also wasn't great. Not the worst, but it was no 52! I think the main problem was that it wasn't really explaining anything about the wider events, just what and where Batman was. Bugs me when the main story is missing things that other books are explaining, all to sell more copies.
The art was all over the place,though. The cool pirate thing was a huge let down, but as bad as the cowboy one. Western style Batman looked great, but that was about the only that did in that comic. Where did he get the clothes? The horse? Who made the batarangs?
God, the colours were awful as well. It started picking up in the last two issues, I thought.
I didn't even want to know what the hell Morrison was taking when he came up with those library guys! Deus Ex Machina taken to a new level, I guess!

I've missed Flashpoint so far, but seeing as how it's Johns again, I have no doubt I'll be enjoying it soon.
I'm not too adverse to the 'reboot', if we can even call it that, but I'm only happy to accept it because it Geoff Johns and Jim Lee is involved as well.
Actually, brilliant point! I was so focussed on Dick being an awesome Batman that I forgot all about why Bruce is the Batman: the darkness. I've not even heard of those Kevin Smith books but I'll definitely check them out asap! I love going back and reading the older Batman storylines (A Death In The Family, Batman: Gothic etc.); he's one of the few DC heroes to remain consistently awesome for so long thanks to being a character with so much freedom in terms of the city he rules, the villains he fights and so on.
I was asking the same questions when reading The Return Of Bruce Wayne, it felt like I was constantly reading half a story, wondering how long he spent in each era because it felt like he was only in each one for as long as it took me to read it. It all felt so rushed and if there's one thing that frustrates me about Morrison, it's his ability to be absolutely ridiculous and confusing. I always like to know what the hell is going one when I read a book (unless it's a thriller or crime novel) and it's as if Morrison knows that and spits in my face!
I only pick up trades because single issues are expensive and confuse me so I'll pick up Flashpoint as soon as it's collected in trade. It means I'm always a little behind but meh, it's cheaper. Have you read Flash: Rebirth? That was awesom! I've not picked up Dastardly Death Of The Rogues yet; I'll get that as soon as I've read vol. 1 of Brightest Day
 

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Wow. We have hijacked the shit out of this thread...
Maybe we should start giving out about something.

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Personally, I think that Bruce is the one true Batman for a reason- the darkness still clings to him in ways it doesn't to Dick and Tim, which I think makes him somewhat dour as Bruce Wayne, but at the same time, the most effective Batman.
Actually, have you ever read Kevin Smith's Cacophony or the Widening Gyre? Some incredible story telling, and an interesting peek into Bruce Wayne's mind. Approaches the theme of succession really well. Love when non canon stuff like that works so well.

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I've missed Flashpoint so far, but seeing as how it's Johns again, I have no doubt I'll be enjoying it soon.
I'm not too adverse to the 'reboot', if we can even call it that, but I'm only happy to accept it because it Geoff Johns and Jim Lee is involved as well.

Actually, brilliant point! I was so focussed on Dick being an awesome Batman that I forgot all about why Bruce is the Batman: the darkness. I've not even heard of those Kevin Smith books but I'll definitely check them out asap! I love going back and reading the older Batman storylines (A Death In The Family, Batman: Gothic etc.); he's one of the few DC heroes to remain consistently awesome for so long thanks to being a character with so much freedom in terms of the city he rules, the villains he fights and so on.
I was asking the same questions when reading The Return Of Bruce Wayne, it felt like I was constantly reading half a story, wondering how long he spent in each era because it felt like he was only in each one for as long as it took me to read it. It all felt so rushed and if there's one thing that frustrates me about Morrison, it's his ability to be absolutely ridiculous and confusing. I always like to know what the hell is going one when I read a book (unless it's a thriller or crime novel) and it's as if Morrison knows that and spits in my face!
I only pick up trades because single issues are expensive and confuse me so I'll pick up Flashpoint as soon as it's collected in trade. It means I'm always a little behind but meh, it's cheaper. Have you read Flash: Rebirth? That was awesom! I've not picked up Dastardly Death Of The Rogues yet; I'll get that as soon as I've read vol. 1 of Brightest Day
Trust me- the Smith stuff is well worth picking up (Cacophony should be read first,though). His Joker is off the fucking wall and then some. There's a new villain in it that appears first in Green Arrow: Sounds of Violence, but it's not essential reading. It's just a damn good read.
For me, Batman will always be Kevin Conroy's interpretation from The Animated Series.
Michael Keaton and Christian Bale are my go to people for live action, as they bring such incredible performances to the character.

But it's Conroy's smoky, low voice as Batman, juxtaposed onto the lighter, charming smoothness of Bruce Wayne that really stayed with me, ever since a kid. Batman can smile from time to time, in a rare moment of victory, or when something has gone right for a change.
Not all the time, but sometimes.

Dick's better as Nightwing, although I do like how they've used his chatty demeanour to good effect while getting him to take the mantle seriously. After all, if not him, then who?

I hear ya on the trades! Shame they take so long to come out, but they're what I try to focus on as much as possible. That said, I do have a weakness for seeing an interesting cover and picking it up, as I did recently with Gates of Gotham. Interesting little title that looks back to Gotham's history and the men who built its towers. Such as the Waynes, the Cobblepots and the Kanes, no less!

I used to kinda hate what Morrison had done... and then I read his other stuff and was blown away by it. Especially WE3 ('we three') which is.. nuts. All Star Superman is actually what got me to put down the pitch fork,though. I think he was trying to do something bold and exciting and new, but that it wasn't allowed enough time to distil a proper, coherent story. The end kinda felt flat. He really respects the material, but man... his choice of artists, or how they've been employed has been hit and miss to say the leas.

Can't say the same about Johns and Ivan Reis,though!
 

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Trust me- the Smith stuff is well worth picking up (Cacophony should be read first,though). His Joker is off the fucking wall and then some. There's a new villain in it that appears first in Green Arrow: Sounds of Violence, but it's not essential reading. It's just a damn good read.
For me, Batman will always be Kevin Conroy's interpretation from The Animated Series.
Michael Keaton and Christian Bale are my go to people for live action, as they bring such incredible performances to the character.

But it's Conroy's smoky, low voice as Batman, juxtaposed onto the lighter, charming smoothness of Bruce Wayne that really stayed with me, ever since a kid. Batman can smile from time to time, in a rare moment of victory, or when something has gone right for a change.
Not all the time, but sometimes.

Dick's better as Nightwing, although I do like how they've used his chatty demeanour to good effect while getting him to take the mantle seriously. After all, if not him, then who?

I hear ya on the trades! Shame they take so long to come out, but they're what I try to focus on as much as possible. That said, I do have a weakness for seeing an interesting cover and picking it up, as I did recently with Gates of Gotham. Interesting little title that looks back to Gotham's history and the men who built its towers. Such as the Waynes, the Cobblepots and the Kanes, no less!

I used to kinda hate what Morrison had done... and then I read his other stuff and was blown away by it. Especially WE3 ('we three') which is.. nuts. All Star Superman is actually what got me to put down the pitch fork,though. I think he was trying to do something bold and exciting and new, but that it wasn't allowed enough time to distil a proper, coherent story. The end kinda felt flat. He really respects the material, but man... his choice of artists, or how they've been employed has been hit and miss to say the leas.

Can't say the same about Johns and Ivan Reis,though!
I agree, Kevin Conroy was almost born to be Batman. He's voiced him in everything from the amazing Animated Series and Batman Of The Future to Justice League and even Arkham Asylum. He has the ability to slip in ingenuously funny lines without them seeming out of place coming from Batman's lips. That man is amazing.
With Christian Bale, I think he does an excellent Bruce Wayne but his portrayal of Batman in The Dark Knight was... odd. In Batman Begins, his voice is gruff but understandable. In TDK he went a little overboard with the voice and exaggerated facial expressions for no real reason. I found it pretty jarring.

Gates Of Gotham sounds interesting! Another reason I never buy single issues, though, is that I don't live anywhere near a comic book shop. I went to uni in a tiny seaside town in Wales and now I'm back home in Hereford so the nearest comic shop is in Birmingham. I'm going there next week so I'm gonna pick up quite a few books rather than spend all my money on Amazon like usual

I confess I've not yet read All-Star Superman even though it's Morrison and Quitely and it's been critically acclaimed. I've not bought it simply because it's hard to get your hands on but I'll look for it next week, as well as Kingdom Come; I hear that book is absolutely mind-blowing

Have you read Identity Crisis? The one comic book that was so perfectly written that, I confess, I actually shed a tear half way through. That story is absolutely incredible and one of the best I've ever read. I'd put it on par with 52!

If you think Ivan Reis' artwork is good (and, oh god, it is!) then you definitely need to get your hands on Blackest Night: Green Lantern. The art by Doug Mahnke is beautiful. It's similar to Reis with very bold colours and epic page-filling action scenes but, at the same time, it's somehow... better. I can't explain how but it is!
 

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I agree, Kevin Conroy was almost born to be Batman. He's voiced him in everything from the amazing Animated Series and Batman Of The Future to Justice League and even Arkham Asylum. He has the ability to slip in ingenuously funny lines without them seeming out of place coming from Batman's lips. That man is amazing.
With Christian Bale, I think he does an excellent Bruce Wayne but his portrayal of Batman in The Dark Knight was... odd. In Batman Begins, his voice is gruff but understandable. In TDK he went a little overboard with the voice and exaggerated facial expressions for no real reason. I found it pretty jarring.

Gates Of Gotham sounds interesting! Another reason I never buy single issues, though, is that I don't live anywhere near a comic book shop. I went to uni in a tiny seaside town in Wales and now I'm back home in Hereford so the nearest comic shop is in Birmingham. I'm going there next week so I'm gonna pick up quite a few books rather than spend all my money on Amazon like usual

I confess I've not yet read All-Star Superman even though it's Morrison and Quitely and it's been critically acclaimed. I've not bought it simply because it's hard to get your hands on but I'll look for it next week, as well as Kingdom Come; I hear that book is absolutely mind-blowing

Have you read Identity Crisis? The one comic book that was so perfectly written that, I confess, I actually shed a tear half way through. That story is absolutely incredible and one of the best I've ever read. I'd put it on par with 52!

If you think Ivan Reis' artwork is good (and, oh god, it is!) then you definitely need to get your hands on Blackest Night: Green Lantern. The art by Doug Mahnke is beautiful. It's similar to Reis with very bold colours and epic page-filling action scenes but, at the same time, it's somehow... better. I can't explain how but it is!
Actually, if you can find it on Amazon cheaply, try out 'Gotham Knight'. It's Conroy in six short animated films, which are written by the usual guys but animated by some big guys in Japanese animation. Nothing crazy, don't worry! Very dark, murky and brooding artwork which fits Batman perfectly.
He actually gets to stretch his legs as regards his range- in two of the stories he plays a much younger Bruce Wayne; the delivery of which is astonishing.

I agree with you about Bale- his Bruce Wayne was the hook for his Batman, and he's done a great job there, but in TDK it sounded ridiculous at times. He moved from this great low growl to this totally over the top snarling, raspy roar which suited Batman in anger, but my God, when talking to Gordon was totally unnecessary. I think that Nolan has to share the blame for that as well. Let's hope they tone it down a notch in The Dark Knight Rises.

Wow, that's quite the treck just to get some funnybooks! Ouch. Still, it's one of those hobbies where you'd end up spending every penny you had if you weren't careful... I know I totally would! Identity Crisis is such a gut wrenching, hard hitting read...
It really goes after your emotions. God almighty... Poor Sue. Poor Ralph...
So much suffering for people who didn't deserve it. An incredible piece of work.
It's made me a bit of a hard liner on people who commit the same crime as Dr. Light, to be honest. They make him so grotesque in the book, it's hard not to cheer as the League savagely put him down.
I liked how 52 gave Ralph the peace he was searching for at the end.

Kingdom Come will blow your mind- Alex Ross' work is astonishing. It's truly a special book because you can see how much work went into the comic made of paintings, but you don't notice unless you go looking for it. It's that effortless.
Superman has a pony tail for some reason,though... Which is kinda silly, but it doesn't distract from the earth shattering events at all.
Pick that up first, then All Star Supes! Actually, the animated version of All Star Superman is sublime. They perfectly mimic the comic's style.

God damn it, you've persuaded me to get Blackest Night sooner than I was planning! lol!
 

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Actually, if you can find it on Amazon cheaply, try out 'Gotham Knight'. It's Conroy in six short animated films, which are written by the usual guys but animated by some big guys in Japanese animation. Nothing crazy, don't worry! Very dark, murky and brooding artwork which fits Batman perfectly.
He actually gets to stretch his legs as regards his range- in two of the stories he plays a much younger Bruce Wayne; the delivery of which is astonishing.

I agree with you about Bale- his Bruce Wayne was the hook for his Batman, and he's done a great job there, but in TDK it sounded ridiculous at times. He moved from this great low growl to this totally over the top snarling, raspy roar which suited Batman in anger, but my God, when talking to Gordon was totally unnecessary. I think that Nolan has to share the blame for that as well. Let's hope they tone it down a notch in The Dark Knight Rises.

Wow, that's quite the treck just to get some funnybooks! Ouch. Still, it's one of those hobbies where you'd end up spending every penny you had if you weren't careful... I know I totally would! Identity Crisis is such a gut wrenching, hard hitting read...
It really goes after your emotions. God almighty... Poor Sue. Poor Ralph...
So much suffering for people who didn't deserve it. An incredible piece of work.
It's made me a bit of a hard liner on people who commit the same crime as Dr. Light, to be honest. They make him so grotesque in the book, it's hard not to cheer as the League savagely put him down.
I liked how 52 gave Ralph the peace he was searching for at the end.

Kingdom Come will blow your mind- Alex Ross' work is astonishing. It's truly a special book because you can see how much work went into the comic made of paintings, but you don't notice unless you go looking for it. It's that effortless.
Superman has a pony tail for some reason,though... Which is kinda silly, but it doesn't distract from the earth shattering events at all.
Pick that up first, then All Star Supes! Actually, the animated version of All Star Superman is sublime. They perfectly mimic the comic's style.

God damn it, you've persuaded me to get Blackest Night sooner than I was planning! lol!
Yeah he's got to tone it down for TDKR, especially since there are hundreds of videos on YouTube all poking fun at it
And speaking of TDKR, I'm starting to get really sceptical about the next in a series of 'gritty, realistic, could-possibly-happen-in-real-life' films which contains a fraking Lazarus Pit! Does that make any sense to you? Catwoman? Awesome! Bane? Even more awesome! Lazarus Pits?! ....uhhh no. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

I shed a single tear at the moment in Identity Crisis when Tim's father died, specifically the page which depicts Batman with his arms wrapped around Tim who's eyes are piercing wide with tears and horror. It was the shock of what had just happened mixed with how touching it was to see Batman act like a real father figure and someone who really does care (because that can be easy to forget sometimes)
I'm definitely gonna grab Kingdom Come next week, I can't wait to read it! My flatmate had been bugging me to get it for two years! But, because of all the bugging, I just didn't get it out of sheer stubbornness... but now, now I'm gonna grab it asap!

Yes! Get Blackest Night now! Like right now! It doesn't have the grand super space battles that Sinestro Corps War had but it's so dark and disturbing and changes so many things right from the start. It's awesome, vicious and hugely interesting! Plus, my copy of Brightest Day got shipped today and I cannot wait to read that bad boy!
 

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Kingdom Come will blow your mind- Alex Ross' work is astonishing. It's truly a special book because you can see how much work went into the comic made of paintings, but you don't notice unless you go looking for it. It's that effortless.
Superman has a pony tail for some reason,though... Which is kinda silly, but it doesn't distract from the earth shattering events at all.
Pick that up first, then All Star Supes! Actually, the animated version of All Star Superman is sublime. They perfectly mimic the comic's style.

God damn it, you've persuaded me to get Blackest Night sooner than I was planning! lol!
Yeah he's got to tone it down for TDKR, especially since there are hundreds of videos on YouTube all poking fun at it
And speaking of TDKR, I'm starting to get really sceptical about the next in a series of 'gritty, realistic, could-possibly-happen-in-real-life' films which contains a fraking Lazarus Pit! Does that make any sense to you? Catwoman? Awesome! Bane? Even more awesome! Lazarus Pits?! ....uhhh no. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

I shed a single tear at the moment in Identity Crisis when Tim's father died, specifically the page which depicts Batman with his arms wrapped around Tim who's eyes are piercing wide with tears and horror. It was the shock of what had just happened mixed with how touching it was to see Batman act like a real father figure and someone who really does care (because that can be easy to forget sometimes)
I'm definitely gonna grab Kingdom Come next week, I can't wait to read it! My flatmate had been bugging me to get it for two years! But, because of all the bugging, I just didn't get it out of sheer stubbornness... but now, now I'm gonna grab it asap!

Yes! Get Blackest Night now! Like right now! It doesn't have the grand super space battles that Sinestro Corps War had but it's so dark and disturbing and changes so many things right from the start. It's awesome, vicious and hugely interesting! Plus, my copy of Brightest Day got shipped today and I cannot wait to read that bad boy!
CrashBang said:
Boba Frag said:
Actually, if you can find it on Amazon cheaply, try out 'Gotham Knight'. It's Conroy in six short animated films, which are written by the usual guys but animated by some big guys in Japanese animation. Nothing crazy, don't worry! Very dark, murky and brooding artwork which fits Batman perfectly.
He actually gets to stretch his legs as regards his range- in two of the stories he plays a much younger Bruce Wayne; the delivery of which is astonishing.

I agree with you about Bale- his Bruce Wayne was the hook for his Batman, and he's done a great job there, but in TDK it sounded ridiculous at times. He moved from this great low growl to this totally over the top snarling, raspy roar which suited Batman in anger, but my God, when talking to Gordon was totally unnecessary. I think that Nolan has to share the blame for that as well. Let's hope they tone it down a notch in The Dark Knight Rises.

Wow, that's quite the treck just to get some funnybooks! Ouch. Still, it's one of those hobbies where you'd end up spending every penny you had if you weren't careful... I know I totally would! Identity Crisis is such a gut wrenching, hard hitting read...
It really goes after your emotions. God almighty... Poor Sue. Poor Ralph...
So much suffering for people who didn't deserve it. An incredible piece of work.
It's made me a bit of a hard liner on people who commit the same crime as Dr. Light, to be honest. They make him so grotesque in the book, it's hard not to cheer as the League savagely put him down.
I liked how 52 gave Ralph the peace he was searching for at the end.

Kingdom Come will blow your mind- Alex Ross' work is astonishing. It's truly a special book because you can see how much work went into the comic made of paintings, but you don't notice unless you go looking for it. It's that effortless.
Superman has a pony tail for some reason,though... Which is kinda silly, but it doesn't distract from the earth shattering events at all.
Pick that up first, then All Star Supes! Actually, the animated version of All Star Superman is sublime. They perfectly mimic the comic's style.

God damn it, you've persuaded me to get Blackest Night sooner than I was planning! lol!
Yeah he's got to tone it down for TDKR, especially since there are hundreds of videos on YouTube all poking fun at it
And speaking of TDKR, I'm starting to get really sceptical about the next in a series of 'gritty, realistic, could-possibly-happen-in-real-life' films which contains a fraking Lazarus Pit! Does that make any sense to you? Catwoman? Awesome! Bane? Even more awesome! Lazarus Pits?! ....uhhh no. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

I shed a single tear at the moment in Identity Crisis when Tim's father died, specifically the page which depicts Batman with his arms wrapped around Tim who's eyes are piercing wide with tears and horror. It was the shock of what had just happened mixed with how touching it was to see Batman act like a real father figure and someone who really does care (because that can be easy to forget sometimes)
I'm definitely gonna grab Kingdom Come next week, I can't wait to read it! My flatmate had been bugging me to get it for two years! But, because of all the bugging, I just didn't get it out of sheer stubbornness... but now, now I'm gonna grab it asap!

Yes! Get Blackest Night now! Like right now! It doesn't have the grand super space battles that Sinestro Corps War had but it's so dark and disturbing and changes so many things right from the start. It's awesome, vicious and hugely interesting! Plus, my copy of Brightest Day got shipped today and I cannot wait to read that bad boy!
I got all fanboy excited when I saw the teaser image of Bane, so I totally forgot about that rumour!
You know, I'm gonna stick with the cliché and trust Nolan. He's done an awful lot of good for Batman, so I'll forgive him allowing Bale to sound like he has throat cancer!
One of my all time favourites on youtube, that one :D

The inclusion of Anne Hathaway has me quite reserved,though, although that's because I haven't really seen her in any serious roles. Still, Marion Cotillard (hotness AND talented) is going to be in there too, so... yay!
If they do include the Lazarus Pits, which I think is unlikely, there's bound to be scientific twist on it. Without going near clone territory, hopefully!

Oh, man, that moment, that single panel was heart breaking. I like how it mirrors the cover of Death in the Family, with Batman surrounding poor Tim with his cape, trying in vain to protect him. It's a side to Batman that's sadly under explored, I think.

haha! I hope you enjoy it as much as I did! The whole thing feels like an epic myth, and Alex Ross, as I keep saying, has some incredible work in it.
Heh, my friend keeps bugging me to watch Sherlock, so I don't :p I prefer not to be nagged, either! Stubbornness For the Win!

Lol, you can bet I'm all over getting Blackest Night as soon as I can afford it!
I absolutely cannot wait. It's dealing with such a dark and creepy slant of the Green Lantern universe, I'll probably enjoy the hell out of it.
Hope you enjoy Brightest Day!
I hear Batman becomes involved at some point...
 

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Boba Frag said:
I got all fanboy excited when I saw the teaser image of Bane, so I totally forgot about that rumour!
You know, I'm gonna stick with the cliché and trust Nolan. He's done an awful lot of good for Batman, so I'll forgive him allowing Bale to sound like he has throat cancer!
One of my all time favourites on youtube, that one :D

The inclusion of Anne Hathaway has me quite reserved,though, although that's because I haven't really seen her in any serious roles. Still, Marion Cotillard (hotness AND talented) is going to be in there too, so... yay!
If they do include the Lazarus Pits, which I think is unlikely, there's bound to be scientific twist on it. Without going near clone territory, hopefully!

Oh, man, that moment, that single panel was heart breaking. I like how it mirrors the cover of Death in the Family, with Batman surrounding poor Tim with his cape, trying in vain to protect him. It's a side to Batman that's sadly under explored, I think.

haha! I hope you enjoy it as much as I did! The whole thing feels like an epic myth, and Alex Ross, as I keep saying, has some incredible work in it.
Heh, my friend keeps bugging me to watch Sherlock, so I don't :p I prefer not to be nagged, either! Stubbornness For the Win!

Lol, you can bet I'm all over getting Blackest Night as soon as I can afford it!
I absolutely cannot wait. It's dealing with such a dark and creepy slant of the Green Lantern universe, I'll probably enjoy the hell out of it.
Hope you enjoy Brightest Day!
I hear Batman becomes involved at some point...
I do wish they explored that side of Batman more but, at the same time, it makes it all the sweeter in the rare times when we do see it

I really cannot wait to get my hands on Kingdom Come but I've gotta be so careful with my money right now (car insurance, petrol, going on holiday etc) but I'm not because I keep buying comic books! Did you see the article on Dundee Uni doing a Masters in comic books? Uh, yeah, I'm gonna be there in a few years!

I actually don't know much about Brightest Day. Blackest Night features some really dark shit concerning Batman but the Morrison Batman & Robin series takes place at the same time and then Return Of Bruce Wayne takes place just after, I think, so he must be alive again by the time Brightest Day takes off and, by the looks of it, it's more of a huge DC crossover than just a Green Lantern story (which is kinda what they also did with Blackest Night). After that there's Flashpoint and then BOOM! DC Universe restarts... wow, it all feels like it's been building up for so long now, ever since Infinite Crisis, pretty much!
Ahh, awesome